EPTOn July 28 2011 04:47 BatCat wrote:
no offense, but in my opinion Gizmo's is quite boring, why is it so popular
no offense, but in my opinion Gizmo's is quite boring, why is it so popular
think the magic word is opinion
(now its the last ;x)
[FXO] Design Competition - Page 39
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
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aptRH
United States4 Posts
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dogmode
Philippines491 Posts
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Achaia
United States643 Posts
On July 28 2011 04:44 GizmoPT wrote: this is my last post in this thread.. thanks to all the guys voting for me i love you all <3 (Option A) i dont understand why people need to hate others so much i'll just observe from now on and enjoy the crazyness Haha indeed. I am going to follow this sentiment and not be involved unless someone specifically has a question for me. GL to you again though mate (even though you're crushing it right now lol) although we don't know how much longer the voting will go on or how much it will affect the final outcome. It's been a ton of fun and this has been a win for me regardless of the outcome just because it's been such a blast. FXO Fighting! @BatCat - Some see it as boring, some see it as clean and simple. It's just a matter of personal preference and it seems that a lot of please like the clean, basic look. | ||
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Neonaticide
Canada16 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
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gu`anti
Germany17 Posts
On July 28 2011 04:58 Canucklehead wrote: Out of the finalists, I would choose A/B. I hate fronts that are too busy with designs and stuff. Also not sure why people like F cause all the ones with a diagonal line to make a divide b/w two diff colours are butt ugly. Adding an unstraight or curved line normaly creates motion and therefore recives attention by a common viewer, thats why. And why is A so far ahead? sometimes simplicity and clean lines just fit better then anything else fancy or inovative. | ||
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SwordfishConspiracy
United States146 Posts
I've been watching this thread the whole competition and design A has been my favorite from day 1. B & F are a close second, but in the end I still voted for A. Why? Uniforms aren't always about being flashy and showing off. I'm a big fan of minimal/simple designs, so I prefer basic with a little bit of flare over complex any day of the week. To me, the stripes on A's shirt are the right amount of decoration to send it from "tshirt with a logo" to "mega nerd baller uniform." The more restrained the design is, while still having a little bit of flare, the classier it looks IMO. Another point I saw someone make earlier in the thread was the fact that in the end, these are uniforms for a Starcraft team. While a lot of the other designs are graphically very well designed and clearly took a lot of time (D comes to mind), in the end they reminded me more of a soccer uniform than a Starcraft team shirt. I just can't imagine a bunch of guys sitting around in front of a computer wearing such an athletic looking jersey. In fact, the details remind me a lot of the design details on the Jabulani World Cup soccer ball. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.fkolaine.lv/system/user_files/Images/JABULANI.jpg) Also it's important for everyone to remember that time and effort DOES NOT equal quality. I know you're very proud of your designs, but just because it took you a few days of significant work doesn't objectively make it a better design than one that only took 2 hours. You may feel that way, but it's not true. If you are a professional designer presenting your concept to a client, they're not going to ask "how long did this take you" and change they're opinion because it took 3 months. Best of luck to the entrants! I definitely want to buy whichever one wins if/when FXO decides to put them up for sale. | ||
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fire_brand
Canada1123 Posts
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.Enigma
United Kingdom116 Posts
Another point I saw someone make earlier in the thread was the fact that in the end, these are uniforms for a Starcraft team. While a lot of the other designs are graphically very well designed and clearly took a lot of time (D comes to mind), in the end they reminded me more of a soccer uniform than a Starcraft team shirt. I just can't imagine a bunch of guys sitting around in front of a computer wearing such an athletic looking jersey. In fact, the details remind me a lot of the design details on the Jabulani World Cup soccer ball. Thank you so much for posting. I looked at football shirts and other sports jerseys during my initial research, and this style became my ultimate goal, so I'm glad I hit this perfectly. Sports teams often wear bright and bold kits to stand out from the crowd, with fans wearing the same kits as a result of personal loyalty rather than for fashion. I didn't want my kit to make people say 'looks like something I'd put the rest of my wardrobe' any more than a Man Utd kit does. I didn't feel any piece of clothing with multiple logos and sponsors on it should try to skirt around with simplicity. I wanted my kit to scream 'this is FXO and we are not forgettable' so if I managed to achieve this but it was disliked anyway, then so be it. I appreciate your post, its made me feel better to be honest. I know my design had essentially the highest level of vectoring/imaging precision that could be expected for this contest, as well as the one of the longest processes. (Time certainly does equal vector quality, overall image quality as well as level of variation and experimentation) However I do now understand that perhaps my vision of the FXO brand (as a sports team and a fanbase) was just too different to that of the general public on the forums to be taken seriously. | ||
Meko
United States129 Posts
Anyway, good luck to all the finalists! :D Since everyone is doing it I voted for Option I. It's certainly not the easiest to print by any means, but in terms of quality I believe that one is the best of them all. It encompasses the logo very well within the design and stands out much more than some of the other ones. My other choice would have been Option B however. It's the most minimalistic I would say but it's straight forward and works very well for what FXOpen is looking for. It's basically the most "jersey" looking I would say and so that's why it's my number two. | ||
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spacefarm
United States112 Posts
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
i think most of the at least european football (soccer) jerseys are pretty simple the important is to make it clean, classy, sexy and show the brands.. often the teams with flashy kits are teams from lower division who dont have talent so they have to wear flashy jerseys so people notice them | ||
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ImmortalTofu
United States1254 Posts
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SuperCarl
Sweden36 Posts
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SwordfishConspiracy
United States146 Posts
On July 28 2011 06:32 .Enigma wrote: Thank you so much for posting. I looked at football shirts and other sports jerseys during my initial research, and this style became my ultimate goal, so I'm glad I hit this perfectly. Sports teams often wear bright and bold kits to stand out from the crowd, with fans wearing the same kits as a result of personal loyalty rather than for fashion. I didn't want my kit to make people say 'looks like something I'd put the rest of my wardrobe' any more than a Man Utd kit does. I didn't feel any piece of clothing with multiple logos and sponsors on it should try to skirt around with simplicity. I wanted my kit to scream 'this is FXO and we are not forgettable' so if I managed to achieve this but it was disliked anyway, then so be it. I appreciate your post, its made me feel better to be honest. I know my design had essentially the highest level of vectoring/imaging precision that could be expected for this contest, as well as the one of the longest processes. (Time certainly does equal vector quality, overall image quality as well as level of variation and experimentation) However I do now understand that perhaps my vision of the FXO brand (as a sports team and a fanbase) was just too different to that of the general public on the forums to be taken seriously. I agree that more time = a higher image quality. But image quality doesn't equate to a better overall design, either. Not saying that yours is bad by any means, but I think (as you suggest) that you had a different vision of the kit than the community did. You were going for "this is FXO and we are not forgettable" but I think most people (including myself) were instead looking for something that was simple and cool and fit in with the simple Korean style kits. | ||
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blAke139
Switzerland199 Posts
 I just hope for a little shoutout or whatever to EVERYONE who tried, that would be the least to do I think. I mean, every single one of those people put a lot of effort into it and they did it for free for whatever reason they want to choose (loving esports/fxo, seeing their work on GOM, want to be unique and have one of those). blake out! I I v | ||
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legatus legionis
Netherlands559 Posts
This will be heavy on criticism, I don't go rude but I cannot spend the effort to put it nicely either. Hope this is understandable and you will look at it overall the same way I have done. Which is as a learning experience. But also to attempt to influence the final design to take the best parts and try to combine it. I'm convinced the most important is to have the best a final design can be. The first part focuses on the contest itself, the second on the individual designs. I'll run through my thought process First of all it's the poll. I believe you should have all the options visible by default, and force people to scroll down and look at every single one of them before attempting to bring out their vote. As it is now I can click to C, say that's cool and not bother clicking all the tags and just voting C. That takes away from the whole contest since every vote made like that deludes the real "all options weighted" votes. Also opening the thread and immediately seeing the poll results was a bit of a surprise because I lost my innocence to individually check out the designs and make my judgements, and then look at it prepared. I'd even say for this, "hidden" poll is desired because again, if that even factors in on a couple votes it deludes the whole contest in my opinion. I think at a glance they look quite similar to each other. I haven't followed the thread in it's entirety but it seems like the designs have not developed much past their initial creation. And for drawing towards each other, almost attempting to do the same thing but better than the other guy, has kicked real cooperation out of the window. What I deemed to be the most important because now here we are, if one of those is gonna be the design don't you think it could've been better? If so then the fans will miss out on that. Maybe I'm totally wrong on this and it's due to an unrealistic desire that I had personally. I like that almost all the designs include the total set of clothing types that was challenged to be designed. Some seem to miss a jacket and with others I had to look again if they even had a jacket because the only difference seemed to be an additional collar. Note: At the moment of writing this note I'm almost done writing all that follows, I have gone way out of control. At a glance it seems the explanations get larger and more in depth at the end, you aren't crazy for seeing that because it's true, which is because I went truly crazy. But! Many things will overlap so keep in mind what is said later on also directly or indirectly reflects back and expands on other pieces. A Clear difference in type of clothing. The jacket looks really clean. All together it actually makes me think of die mannshaft, I think there are some general resemblances. I don't like the black and white contrast and also don't like the huge open spaces. Very bland pants especially when you will have shirt overlapping the top which is the only place that has something. Doesn't look cheap but overall too little personality added, a few tiny stripes and two stripes on the jacket leave only the logo's. Let's say from a distance it wouldn't look as special as a uniform can be. It looks good, it just doesn't look cool. Would've liked to see a more daring design. B It's hard to say because there isn't much to make it stand out. It is very minimalistic. It just has the logo's on it. The type of clothing is really good though. The shirt really looks like a jersey and not a t-shirt. With the smooth collar you see in wet-suits or jerseys and the longsleeves. Also like the jacket type because it's like my regular jacket. Outdoor type brand, nothing fancy, just durable and gives a bit of a tough look. I see the stripes at the side and I see the different way to fill in the hoody, it's just not doing anything. It really is the most minimal to not make it look like almost any plain shirt. As with most I think the pants are unjudgeable apart from that they look like rainpants. I'm not sure what to think of that, doesn't seem comfy indoors. C Almost the best shirt. It looks more like a total item, the design is more daring and I'm a huge fan of "grey" color sets. So what you have done witht he orange makes it match incredibly well with the dark grey. I would have liked to see more filling on the right shoulder and the right backside. Also think the arrow that comes from the bottom at the back ends way too high to connect properly to the front, which connects much lower. That would need to be moved down and then the back would be even more empty. Jacket has almost nothing going for it, like the snow white and the deep dark don't match at all, no border line makes it feel like a cheap transition and for the rest it doesn't have anything besides necessities. Pants are "ok" D Too many colors, too many variations, it's hard to say what I'm actually trying to judge. It doesn't seem like you are confident in the vision you would have to represent your creation. So you try o sneak in all kinds of variations to appeal to a large audience but I think that is actually hurting you in this case. Might be better to look at what your audience really is. Another thing is that it almost doesn't look like clothing because the edges are so sharp. It's hard to imagine what it would actually look like in reality. The traditional way seems to give a better view of your design than the blueprint does. I dislike the race shield a lot. It's not really useful and compared to the other logo's lacks a lot of depth being only two colors and flat. Also the light blue added in seems like a very particular taste. E This is gonna be really stupid but I love that type of jacket. It defines baller. It radiates awesomeness. It takes up space. It says: "I'm here, what you gonna do about it?" It's shiny, imagine how it will look under different lighting. Yeah, it will be able to have tons of different looks because of that. I think this is very important. And at the same time it's very bad. This type of jacket might not be possible, so if I vote for this design because of that jacket I will have wasted my vote. While this doesn't have "super cool graphics". The printing is one with the jacket. Look at the letters they fit in perfectly, don't distrub anything yet still serve their purpose. Also the general filling is clean enough to make it feel balanced and fitting. Maybe you can add in some patches, I don't know, it's probably better not to, if it need be it will be added anyway. Best pants in the calm dark passive styling for the simple reason that it moves away from the one big coloring yet does so covertly, not abruptly. Also then looking at the lines make it seem logical or functional they go this way, like additional padding for places that are more prone to wear. Also huge fan of subtle grey color changes like this. It fits well and allows you to do things that blend into each other. I did not like the shirt however. The back seem ok apart from the orange which is just a bit too much but the front is way too "special". It really has this streamlined look to it, this is what you put on a motorcycle helmet or suit right? So while that in itself is cool, I don't think that theme of "speed" fits with the look you get from looking at a pro. An intelligble or like "computer logic" (raw) look would probably fit well. F Really good presentation. But I think it's the similarities to the current outfit that makes this one less interesting even though it's really nice. Do keep in mind while the players wear black/orange, Wolf for example will wear white/orange. I think this doesn't give a better design than the current one, since it's for all intends and purposes the same, but done differently. A curved stripe instead of a straight one. Diagonal instead of as a band. G,H,I are all hard to take in consideration seriously. As reflected in the votes. I think this is due to the way they are presented. The auto scaling of tl making it look pixelated, fully white background and the items aren't displayed as big as the others. This makes it hard for them to stand out. That is actually where my judging stopped. G This one has it's image cropped and scaled down making it look pixelated. A on top of eachother layout would've been a lot better, also in hindsight. I do feel thinking ahead like this does belong to the total value of the creation. Since equivalently it also takes away from it. What sucks is that when you open it, that's when you get to the see many of the details well. This get's dismissed so easily since tons of people won't open the picture in a seperate window before judging it. T-shirt looks cool, has a very good fill to it. The coastline border makes it feel Australia is in there. Representing, adding in personality. The implementation of the lines is somewhat questionable. The bottom is very empty which makes it look like a miniskirt. Also I know I said I don't like the race "buttons" so why would I like the race ones now? Because it's actually race nationality. That is so important and something you cannot get away from. Morrow can switch back to Terran but he will always be a Swede. Even during the beta we had EU vs NA vs KR showmatch series. Every sport has it, it almost transcends the sport itself. So really great addition here, they should all have this feature! Pants are hard to judge again, they are all so empty. But this has a reasonably good feel to it and actually did something, the linesplits into two lines and follows different paths, that's a world of difference with the other stripes. H Has almost the exact same jacket as A. White, orange stripes, sideways logo, same type of jacket. The only difference is at the bottom: black border vs no border. And at the sleaves, black end vs orange end. Which came first the chicken or the egg? Is this actually plagiatism one way or another? Unless you guys worked together, which I doubt because then I would've expected something different. Something behind this is what killed the creative spirit of one of them. Cannot take the t-shirt/jersey seriously, it looks really cheap has almost no personality. Again I spot a race logo on the sleave. It doesn't contain any information it just clutters, why not write Zerg under it as well. It's not interesting and also takes away that seriousness or "professional" look that makes the total look cheap. Pants are unjudgeable. I don't know what I think about one stripe. I The FX logo's blend into a colorful stripe seperating the black from the white is really awesome and well done. Detail wise I think that is the best actually designed thing. Also like the colored and like "3D" name. Shame that couldn't be transferred over onto another design that has the best "overall shirt filling. Even with the end sleaves and border lines, which are great, I don't like where they happen. While the idea does work for the t-shirt. On the jacket, especially with it moved up to the chest area. It just looks like a military uniform where they have that band with accolades or something. Again the FXO logo could be cool but on a different thing. The pants are unjudgeable. No closing statement other than thanks for reading and hope it can be beneficial to something. | ||
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BatCat
Austria630 Posts
On July 28 2011 04:49 GizmoPT wrote: think the magic word is opinion (now its the last ;x) On July 28 2011 04:52 Achaia wrote:[...] @BatCat - Some see it as boring, some see it as clean and simple. It's just a matter of personal preference and it seems that a lot of please like the clean, basic look. I just fear that the small image leaves them with an altered impression of the look compared to how it would look like on a real T-shirt. I guess we'll see :p | ||
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Achaia
United States643 Posts
On July 28 2011 22:24 BatCat wrote: I just fear that the small image leaves them with an altered impression of the look compared to how it would look like on a real T-shirt. I guess we'll see :p Yeah I understand what you're saying. My point was just that different perspectives yield different thoughts about the design. On one side you have the "it looks empty" and on the other you have the "it's very clean and simple". I'm not saying either one is right or wrong, just those are the two takes on it and right now (based on the vote) it seems that more people are of the "it's very clean and simple" school of though. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder right? | ||
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