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On July 28 2011 03:41 StiMMy wrote:
I love how all the tools that qq'd so hard about templates and shit have the worst designs. And the kids who just buckled down and went at it came up with what the community thought was the best.
Then start getting butt hurt when the vast majority of this community thinks they are shit.
"Omg everyone else in the world must have terrible taste if they don't like my design, there is no way that i just have zero talent, like omg."
AWESOME.
Bahahah QFT!
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when i voted, f's picture wasn't working, but now that it is i want to switch my vote, its sexy.
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No but the thing is, the leading designs (At least, A and C) actually DON'T have any talent. They're literally just text and logos placed in an extremely cookie-cut layout. Maybe voters like the looks of the logos and the templates and that's why those designs are getting the most votes. Certainly more believable than the concept of people actually liking the design itself, which ranges from completely generic to just downright ugly. If the people having the final say on this have any sense, they'll make the community's "input" on the design have little mass in the final decision of the winner - so maybe they can actually have a nice design instead of the decision of some circlejerk camaraderie voting for objectively ugly designs.
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On July 28 2011 03:13 Moth Gate wrote:
Not only is the leading design simplistic in technique it also looks ugly as shit. I hope FXO has fun rocking that ugly embarrassing disgrace to humanity when they're in starcraft tournaments, they will probably end up losing because of how ugly that shit is. Congratulations on your spectacular feat of making the worst thing ever made by human hands
I have to agree A is pretty bad.
That said, all this elitist 'but I'm a designer for real!' whining is ridiculous and their designs are not that good either.
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On July 28 2011 03:50 SixPackAbs wrote:
when i voted, f's picture wasn't working, but now that it is i want to switch my vote, its sexy.
I have had that issue a lot it seems >_> Not sure why photobucket is not showing my image to some viewers. Really annoying to be honest haha 
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Not butthurt, I just hoped that something that showed a level of professional restraint would be a finalist. Photoshopping and design are much different things.
If FXO wants the yin yang kung fu look, that's cool. I just think it could be something with broader appeal that you wouldn't be afraid to show your girlfriend.
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On July 28 2011 03:54 Moth Gate wrote:
No but the thing is, the leading designs (At least, A and C) actually DON'T have any talent. They're literally just text and logos placed in an extremely cookie-cut layout. Maybe voters like the looks of the logos and the templates and that's why those designs are getting the most votes. Certainly more believable than the concept of people actually liking the design itself, which ranges from completely generic to just downright ugly. If the people having the final say on this have any sense, they'll make the community's "input" on the design have little mass in the final decision of the winner - so maybe they can actually have a nice design instead of the decision of some circlejerk camaraderie voting for objectively ugly designs.
Ya okay paul mitchell, thanks for your input, I'm sure the rest of the people that disagreed with you 20 minutes ago are now converted by your oh so elequent and well thought out stream of bullshit.
Cheers!
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On July 28 2011 04:04 StiMMy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 03:54 Moth Gate wrote:
No but the thing is, the leading designs (At least, A and C) actually DON'T have any talent. They're literally just text and logos placed in an extremely cookie-cut layout. Maybe voters like the looks of the logos and the templates and that's why those designs are getting the most votes. Certainly more believable than the concept of people actually liking the design itself, which ranges from completely generic to just downright ugly. If the people having the final say on this have any sense, they'll make the community's "input" on the design have little mass in the final decision of the winner - so maybe they can actually have a nice design instead of the decision of some circlejerk camaraderie voting for objectively ugly designs.
Ya okay paul mitchell, thanks for your input, I'm sure the rest of the people that disagreed with you 20 minutes ago are now converted by your oh so elequent and well thought out stream of bullshit. Cheers!
Good, they should be, you dumb fuck.
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On July 28 2011 03:54 Moth Gate wrote:
No but the thing is, the leading designs (At least, A and C) actually DON'T have any talent. They're literally just text and logos placed in an extremely cookie-cut layout. Maybe voters like the looks of the logos and the templates and that's why those designs are getting the most votes. Certainly more believable than the concept of people actually liking the design itself, which ranges from completely generic to just downright ugly. If the people having the final say on this have any sense, they'll make the community's "input" on the design have little mass in the final decision of the winner - so maybe they can actually have a nice design instead of the decision of some circlejerk camaraderie voting for objectively ugly designs.
LOL you're so sad it makes me laugh. I'm not sure if you're an idiot or a fashion guru. It seems that one or the other must be true because you're talking as if you're a clear authority on the subject. Since you didn't actually grace the contest with an entry of your own (which would have clearly won I'm sure) you're not a guru. This must mean you're an idiot because you're talking out of your ass about something you know nothing about. It's cool though, there's plenty of people like you who will say stupid things on the internet to make yourselves feel better without the risk of backlash as you cower behind the anonymity of the internet. Idiots will be idiots.
@0neder - Are you considering your design to have professional restraint? Because honestly I'm not even a little bit surprised that your entry didn't make it.
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On July 28 2011 04:11 Achaia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 03:54 Moth Gate wrote:
No but the thing is, the leading designs (At least, A and C) actually DON'T have any talent. They're literally just text and logos placed in an extremely cookie-cut layout. Maybe voters like the looks of the logos and the templates and that's why those designs are getting the most votes. Certainly more believable than the concept of people actually liking the design itself, which ranges from completely generic to just downright ugly. If the people having the final say on this have any sense, they'll make the community's "input" on the design have little mass in the final decision of the winner - so maybe they can actually have a nice design instead of the decision of some circlejerk camaraderie voting for objectively ugly designs.
LOL you're so sad it makes me laugh. I'm not sure if you're an idiot or a fashion guru. It seems that one or the other must be true because you're talking as if you're a clear authority on the subject. Since you didn't actually grace the contest with an entry of your own (which would have clearly won I'm sure) you're not a guru. This must mean you're an idiot because you're talking out of your ass about something you know nothing about. It's cool though, there's plenty of people like you who will say stupid things on the internet to make yourselves feel better without the risk of backlash as you cower behind the anonymity of the internet. Idiots will be idiots. @0neder - Are you considering your design to have professional restraint? Because honestly I'm not even a little bit surprised that your entry didn't make it.
Yeah nice logic there, as if I'd actually waste time entering in a competition where entries as terrible as yours can actually rank highly in the finals. Whether I'm a designer or not makes no difference, I'm just identifying ugly designs for what they are - ugly. I'm as welcome to that opinion as you are welcome to the opinion that your ugly piece of shit excuse for a design looks any good. Whether you have the majority on your side or not means no difference to me, as you yourself pointed out its a forum of gamers, not designers.
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oh god... so much hate im actually starting to feel bad :\
guys i could make anything the other guys did... i was just thinking what would look cool and what i would like to use... thats just it..
i never said i was a professional designer or anything...
im really not impressed with what you guys did yes there could be something innovative and that would look cool.. but i didnt saw anything like that sorry..
cant we all get along ? all this hate is making me sick
i just made this cause i like FXO and for fun -.-' meh
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On July 28 2011 01:54 0neder wrote:
I find it interesting that the only one done by a professional designer was not a finalist. I'm not surprised though, lots of people are too proud to accept the opinion of a designer. I guess the tacky martial arts uniform look is what you're going for.
Well, you didn't follow the rules.
It must contain: - The FXOpen Bull/Bear logo with 'FXOpen' and the slogan on it (the pants may just use the logo)
- The Razer logo
And your entry: http://i.imgur.com/AEVD5.jpg
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Guys, chill out before I call on the hot_bid to come in on his valiant steed.
I hire designers to do many things, and there is nothing unprofessional about the top designs chosen. At the same time, if your design was not in the ones that are being voted for in the poll, then you either 1) Did not comply with the rules of the tournament (having fxo bullbear logo or razer logo) or 2) We felt that a colour scheme, pattern did not fit with what we were trying to achieve.
Although, I am thankful for everyone who has contributed to this thread as well as FXO, its truly appreciated. People need to settle down.
No one was excluded because they are/are not professional, they were excluded just because it didn't work for our goals.
The voting on the poll, is 'similar' to my own personal opinion on the designs also, with the top 4 (Although not in the same order) being the ones that I would find not only the easiest to produce, but also the more fitting to the community at large. Note:- The community at large are not designers, but are gamers.
I hope this helps.
Please keep the flaming to a minimum, thanks.
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Edit: Removed my retort for the sake of the thread. I wasn't trying to deliberately flame anyone in the thread and FXOpen has requested peace so I want to be peaceful.
On a side note: FXOpen, how long will voting be open for and how heavily does that weigh on your final decision? Will the winner of the poll be the design you use or is the poll solely to collect information to make a final decision?
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Sorry guys, F is the most well-rounded. While I agree with the people who like A, the back of that shirt with the GIANT logo is rather obnoxious. Orange/black is the pimpness imho.
In summary, the correct decision:
Use the JACKET from A (I think thats why most people voted for it)
Use the SHIRTS/PANTS from F.
Trust me, as I did a lot of press design in college and worked with my roommate to help startup bustedtees.com.
Thanks to FXO for putting themselves out there btw. Wolf has done a good job promoting them during the gsl. And of course, thanks for letting us have some imput to help you guys get it right! Nothing is worse than terrible jerseys (seattle seahawks anyone?!)
Last point - if you use the 'F' jersey, you can also invert the white with the black to make an alternate uniform which I think would look great as well!
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On July 28 2011 04:27 Achaia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 04:19 Moth Gate wrote:On July 28 2011 04:11 Achaia wrote:On July 28 2011 03:54 Moth Gate wrote:
No but the thing is, the leading designs (At least, A and C) actually DON'T have any talent. They're literally just text and logos placed in an extremely cookie-cut layout. Maybe voters like the looks of the logos and the templates and that's why those designs are getting the most votes. Certainly more believable than the concept of people actually liking the design itself, which ranges from completely generic to just downright ugly. If the people having the final say on this have any sense, they'll make the community's "input" on the design have little mass in the final decision of the winner - so maybe they can actually have a nice design instead of the decision of some circlejerk camaraderie voting for objectively ugly designs.
LOL you're so sad it makes me laugh. I'm not sure if you're an idiot or a fashion guru. It seems that one or the other must be true because you're talking as if you're a clear authority on the subject. Since you didn't actually grace the contest with an entry of your own (which would have clearly won I'm sure) you're not a guru. This must mean you're an idiot because you're talking out of your ass about something you know nothing about. It's cool though, there's plenty of people like you who will say stupid things on the internet to make yourselves feel better without the risk of backlash as you cower behind the anonymity of the internet. Idiots will be idiots. @0neder - Are you considering your design to have professional restraint? Because honestly I'm not even a little bit surprised that your entry didn't make it. Yeah nice logic there, as if I'd actually waste time entering in a competition where entries as terrible as yours can actually rank highly in the finals. Whether I'm a designer or not makes no difference, I'm just identifying ugly designs for what they are - ugly. I'm as welcome to that opinion as you are welcome to the opinion that your ugly piece of shit excuse for a design looks any good. Whether you have the majority on your side or not means no difference to me, as you yourself pointed out its a forum of gamers, not designers. Haha whatever you say mate. The thing that kills me is that you literally created your account to come stir up crap in this thread which is just hilarious that you wouldn't "waste your time" entering the competition but you're absolutely content spending half a day talking trash to the entrants lol. The thing is that I don't really care what you think for a few reasons. The first being that the community is overall reacting very positive to my design. The second is that even if you are some kind of "fashion ninja" the things is that even designers are at the mercy of the masses. A professional designer could pull something together that they hail as the mecca of sports fashion, but guess what? If no one likes it no one will buy it, which means that designer has failed. My design isn't anything special but the fact that enough of the community is responding to it positively is enough for me to not worry about a negative nancy such as yourself spewing hate all over a thread that was mostly positive until your arrival. Honestly, if you dislike the designs so extremely much I don't see why you're wasting your time being involved in this thread. Go do something productive with your life.
Half a day? Try a little over an hour...
And there is a difference between not caring to submit something and not caring to speak my mind about the voting sequence, so try to draw a false parallel between those two things. A good artist will make something personally appealing to them and won't care about what people think. This contest isn't about artists. It's about designers - who try to make things appealing to their client. Design is objective. There is a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it, and the fulcrum that balances the two is dependent on the client and how they want to be represented. If the team wants to be represented by slapstick lazy designs like yours, they're free to. My point is my negative attitude is when someone like the person above claims to be able to replicate the other designs, or you crack a "mexican fiesta" joke about a design objectively much better than yours, you're letting this poll get to your head and belittling your competition. You're the one with a shitty attitude.
In any event I'll stop making these posts and continue to watch as the competition unfolds. Good luck to everyone besides A and C.
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PS FXOpen its most likely going to be produced as Sublimation Print on Polyesterfabric therefor saying "easiest to produce" doesnt count, i know what im talking about.
Besides that, yes some people that actually toss pixels and vectors arround all day for a living might feel harmed by the votes done and that is there good right to be, maybee not in a downgrading way of rant and TT but they should still be "allowed" to be angry or at least dissapointed.
Eventhough TL is about the nicest community on the internet EVOR - it's still an esport community, dont be suprised by rant, whine and angry comments. We are Gamers thats how we are, all natural balls of anger and awesomeness.
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On July 28 2011 04:37 Moth Gate wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 04:27 Achaia wrote:On July 28 2011 04:19 Moth Gate wrote:On July 28 2011 04:11 Achaia wrote:On July 28 2011 03:54 Moth Gate wrote:
No but the thing is, the leading designs (At least, A and C) actually DON'T have any talent. They're literally just text and logos placed in an extremely cookie-cut layout. Maybe voters like the looks of the logos and the templates and that's why those designs are getting the most votes. Certainly more believable than the concept of people actually liking the design itself, which ranges from completely generic to just downright ugly. If the people having the final say on this have any sense, they'll make the community's "input" on the design have little mass in the final decision of the winner - so maybe they can actually have a nice design instead of the decision of some circlejerk camaraderie voting for objectively ugly designs.
LOL you're so sad it makes me laugh. I'm not sure if you're an idiot or a fashion guru. It seems that one or the other must be true because you're talking as if you're a clear authority on the subject. Since you didn't actually grace the contest with an entry of your own (which would have clearly won I'm sure) you're not a guru. This must mean you're an idiot because you're talking out of your ass about something you know nothing about. It's cool though, there's plenty of people like you who will say stupid things on the internet to make yourselves feel better without the risk of backlash as you cower behind the anonymity of the internet. Idiots will be idiots. @0neder - Are you considering your design to have professional restraint? Because honestly I'm not even a little bit surprised that your entry didn't make it. Yeah nice logic there, as if I'd actually waste time entering in a competition where entries as terrible as yours can actually rank highly in the finals. Whether I'm a designer or not makes no difference, I'm just identifying ugly designs for what they are - ugly. I'm as welcome to that opinion as you are welcome to the opinion that your ugly piece of shit excuse for a design looks any good. Whether you have the majority on your side or not means no difference to me, as you yourself pointed out its a forum of gamers, not designers. Haha whatever you say mate. The thing that kills me is that you literally created your account to come stir up crap in this thread which is just hilarious that you wouldn't "waste your time" entering the competition but you're absolutely content spending half a day talking trash to the entrants lol. The thing is that I don't really care what you think for a few reasons. The first being that the community is overall reacting very positive to my design. The second is that even if you are some kind of "fashion ninja" the things is that even designers are at the mercy of the masses. A professional designer could pull something together that they hail as the mecca of sports fashion, but guess what? If no one likes it no one will buy it, which means that designer has failed. My design isn't anything special but the fact that enough of the community is responding to it positively is enough for me to not worry about a negative nancy such as yourself spewing hate all over a thread that was mostly positive until your arrival. Honestly, if you dislike the designs so extremely much I don't see why you're wasting your time being involved in this thread. Go do something productive with your life. Half a day? Try a little over an hour... And there is a difference between not caring to submit something and not caring to speak my mind about the voting sequence, so try to draw a false parallel between those two things. A good artist will make something personally appealing to them and won't care about what people think. This contest isn't about artists. It's about designers - who try to make things appealing to their client. Design is objective. There is a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it, and the fulcrum that balances the two is dependent on the client and how they want to be represented. If the team wants to be represented by slapstick lazy designs like yours, they're free to. My point is my negative attitude is when someone like the person above claims to be able to replicate the other designs, or you crack a "mexican fiesta" joke about a design objectively much better than yours, you're letting this poll get to your head and belittling your competition. You're the one with a shitty attitude. In any event I'll stop making these posts and continue to watch as the competition unfolds. Good luck to everyone besides A and C.
Dood, you must have been chomping at the bit for a reply because that was literally up for like 30 seconds before I saw the FXOpen post and removed it lol. Either way, I just wanted to let you know that I don't care what you think really and won't be responding to you any more for the purpose of keeping this thread more positive.
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this is my last post in this thread..
thanks to all the guys voting for me i love you all <3 (Option A)
i dont understand why people need to hate others so much i'll just observe from now on and enjoy the crazyness
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no offense, but in my opinion Gizmo's is quite boring, why is it so popular 
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