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On November 05 2011 09:07 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Started watching the zerg practice one. Heard the guy talking was a vVv player. Laughed, then felt sad. Stopped watching the zerg practice one. Launched SC2 to practice on my own.
That's too bad you stopped listening, your loss. FYI, I was a featured streamer for a reason (lost recently due to inactivity T_T).
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Haha sounds very nice, but i cant afford 
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I just watched Classic's Stopping the Terran 1-1-1 as Protoss video. Overall I really enjoyed it but there were some parts that I definitely think could be improved, or at least taken into account. First, I thought it was odd that all the games were played against the same player. It's an odd complaint, but I'd like to see different players. Also I was wondering about the different styles of the 1-1-1. In the two games which showed the 1-1-1, the Terran didn't get siege mode, cloak, or a raven. I'd like to see how he handles the situations, especially considering his fairly late robotics facility. Another small complaint I had was the second half of the video was just how the 3 gate works against MM aggression or a 1 rax FE. I'd put that as a part 2, for people who just wanted to see how to incorporate the 3 gate expand vs non 1-1-1 openings. Although I seem down so far, I really enjoyed the video, and found it very helpful. I've been having a lot of trouble vs the 1-1-1 opening, especially considering all the pro videos I have seen have the Terran just rolling over the Protoss player, most notably EGPuMa rolling multiple players in different tournaments. I am really enjoying the site so far, and think it can be really good for the community. One thing I might suggest for the site is a place where people can put suggestions for videos they want to see. For instance if a new Roach Ling timing comes out and many Protoss are having trouble with it, but someone like INkA knows how to hold it, people could suggest a video for holding the timing, and then in response INkA could make a tutorial video on how to hold the attack. Also, I personally feel the price is too high, but that's not my call. Best of Luck to you all!
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This is awful.
Many of the videos just are poor quality, for example the video on how to stop 1-1-1 just shows an awful way of stopping it and has an absolute idiot terran as opponent to 'proof' his points.
Also how can you ever ask 27$ !!! a month for a strategy site. The audacity to expect people to pay that amount for this is just...
As far as recommendations go I would seriously up the quality of the video's if you really intend to sell these, these are just casted replays which is been done much better by day 9 for free already. For a pay site i'd expect some incredibly detailed video's or some very detailed written guides. I just can't recommend this to anyone in this state..
Finally the list of 'coaches' also lacks reputable names which isn't strictly neccesary but makes it hard to sell these guides even more as anything worthwhile.
Would have been a great idea if you chose another business model, one more fitting to an online game community like this. Gamers don't like to pay much and certainly not for what feels as should be free. A freebee/premium model with ads feels much more fitting.. For example put some ads on the site and in the video's and have a premium account for access without ads and perhaps a personal forum etc.
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I'll give you guys some tips. edited out the longer version because it isn't my money producing business , yeah I got a crappy reputation ladder-wise but I'm one of the longest term coaches with constant positive reviews over at z33k.com.
Cut down your coaching staff to less people who are more motivated. The high amount of coaches looks "sloppy" Yes, it is good to grab tons of good players. But honestly some of them here (and no, not talking about Desrow, although I've heard about yelling or w/e but were talking about videos) you should know about already. It currently isn't worth 27 for even 2-3 months imo.
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It's a nice idea, obviously based on the poker video websites, but IMO your pricing is too high. Your prices are similar to what said poker video sites charge, but the difference is that with poker sites, your returns can quickly pay for the subscription - in SC2, the potential earnings are not enough to justify this as an investment. You should try playing a bit with the prices and see what amount gives you the highest revenue in total (unless you already did that and figured $27 is optimal, I might be mistaken with my estimates).
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i recently switched to zerg because i wanted to give the race a fair try. but, ive been getting frustrated and caught off guard especially by not having enough drones made or not enough expansions(really just having economy issues)...so i do what any normal person would do and came to the team liquid forums and strategy to do some research, and just maybe id find something that could help me rid my zerg economical woes. well lo-and-behold i come along this thread called sc2 pro guides...me thinking the name sounds easy enough to comprehend why not give it a look. well would you look at that...a free video on how to practice zerg...hmmm (click).... to make a long story short i watched the video....practiced a couple times by myself. directly after, my real life friend that plays protoss and is platinum got on(im gold btw). i have yet to beat him in my sc2 career which started at the end of season 2.
I 3-0'D HIS ASS!!!!!
in all the games he decided to FFE and i just did the three base roach with the macro hatch and won very easily. id just like to say thanks for pointing me in the right direction. sure ive still got some kinks to work out, but its coming along splendidly.
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i really like it. will seriously consider getting it.
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I don't like that you define a one base all-in (at 10 minutes) as cheese. That's probably the most ridiculous definition I have heard. First of all you have all the time in the world to see it coming, And second, terran on one base should beat any other race on one base in terms of production capability.
And saying that protoss has _ a lot _ of cheese is just bullshit. Especially when you're playing as terran... And a siege tank or two would totally kill that push he made.
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Very high quality videos, with great commentary over all. But one thing I would like to suggest is something like "X hours trial" in a sense that many sites have 7days trials and so on. Which would allow you to watch total of "X hours" of videos, and it would give much better view of the site and video quality, but keep up the good work!
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Typical community stuff. Everyone complains or trolls without actually having tried it. And it’s always easier to bitch than actually doing something.
I think what you guys are doing is great. I know coaches can be upwards of 20,30,40+ per hour and if you can provide the same type of coaching for a cheaper rate, good for you guys. Coaching is necessary. Even someone like Tiger Woods get’s coached. If you want to play at the highest levels you need to find your weaknesses and sometimes it’s not always apparent to you what your weaknesses are.
I will admit for some, the price might be a little high. I personally don’t think it’s that bad, but it’s all relative. I make a decent living so 27$ isn’t all the money in the world to me. I hope you guys keep up the good work! I’m thinking about giving it a try myself.
If you build it they will come.
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I'm a masters zerg player, watched the free video of "How to train" and actually found it really helpful.
I'd like to subscribe but as other posters have mentioned I am never going to pay $27 monthly for it, despite having plenty of disposable income.
I think it would be wise to have two levels of subscription. One basic just for the VODs and one with all the VIP support and whatnot.
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I watched the Zerg introduction video and it's quite nice. This is a good website for beginners.
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Just watched the iNkA vid. Really good vid. I would suggest that if you want to become even more desirable, that you guys do some dual coaching as well. Take a professional from both races and talk a little bit about what timing windows are popular, how to defend certain rushes, safe expansion timings, etc. Most coaches are from the race being played, but you can step it up and become the only site to offer coaching from both perspectives. That could be really beneficial to new players to help understand races they don't play and potential threats to become more aware of. Just a thought but it could help the site expand. 
Keep it up guys.
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On November 08 2011 22:19 bumjeba wrote:Just watched the iNkA vid. Really good vid. I would suggest that if you want to become even more desirable, that you guys do some dual coaching as well. Take a professional from both races and talk a little bit about what timing windows are popular, how to defend certain rushes, safe expansion timings, etc. Most coaches are from the race being played, but you can step it up and become the only site to offer coaching from both perspectives. That could be really beneficial to new players to help understand races they don't play and potential threats to become more aware of. Just a thought but it could help the site expand. Keep it up guys.
Thanks for the input.
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On November 06 2011 21:22 JediGamer wrote:
I'll give you guys some tips. edited out the longer version because it isn't my money producing business , yeah I got a crappy reputation ladder-wise but I'm one of the longest term coaches with constant positive reviews over at z33k.com.
Cut down your coaching staff to less people who are more motivated. The high amount of coaches looks "sloppy" Yes, it is good to grab tons of good players. But honestly some of them here (and no, not talking about Desrow, although I've heard about yelling or w/e but were talking about videos) you should know about already. It currently isn't worth 27 for even 2-3 months imo.
rofl it's really easy to have positive reviews on z33k. You can keep your opinion for yourself.
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On November 10 2011 10:32 desRow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 21:22 JediGamer wrote:
I'll give you guys some tips. edited out the longer version because it isn't my money producing business , yeah I got a crappy reputation ladder-wise but I'm one of the longest term coaches with constant positive reviews over at z33k.com.
Cut down your coaching staff to less people who are more motivated. The high amount of coaches looks "sloppy" Yes, it is good to grab tons of good players. But honestly some of them here (and no, not talking about Desrow, although I've heard about yelling or w/e but were talking about videos) you should know about already. It currently isn't worth 27 for even 2-3 months imo.
rofl it's really easy to have positive reviews on z33k. You can keep your opinion for yourself.
Luckily at the same time I had fake troll reviews removed, some of your Real less than 5 star reviews you got were taken down, you can thank me? I've never actually had a paying student give a bad review, the same can't be said likewise. I was trying to give you guys some ideas to get a serious product out there. As you can see from the concerned posters it currently isn't worth the rates.
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