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On October 14 2011 02:58 Ripebananaa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2011 01:15 CrushDog5 wrote: I think this is a good alternative to individual coaching, which is ridiculously expensive, and may be a lot more productive in most cases. Players definitely need something more than streams and ladder, if they want to improve quickly.
I think coaching and playing are different skills. Besides, imagine a coaching session with idra:
Idra: Thanks for the $300 dollars. You: Sure, I'm really excited to be here. So, what did you think of the replay I sent you. Idra: Basically, I think you're the worst player I've ever seen. Just terrible. I mean really, really bad. You: What should I do to get better? Idra: Get better? You're terrible. Everything you do is bad. Your macro is bad, your micro is bad. Everything. The only chance you have to win is if your opponent disconnects. Your best bet is to just put up extractors everywhere and hope for a disconnect. You: I wouldn't do that. Idra: I wouldn't either, but then I'm not as terrible as you. You: But I want to improve! Idra: Improve? You can't improve, you are awful. You've lost already. Just quit, leave the game. In fact, I can feel myself getting worse just by talking to you. >> Idra disconnects
I sincerely hope you're not that ignorant.
Yeah, totally just a joke. It just reminded me of that idra quotes video, which is like 5 minutes of idra saying pretty much exactly that kind of stuff. No offense intended, really.
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hmm why spend money,.. watch Day9 daily?? -_- good videos you have, but as long as awsome guys like day make great tutorial-Videos for free,.. no chance I think! just my 2 cents
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Hi, one friendly question. What is it that makes your videos standout from other videos like say, Day9's analysis videos?
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On October 14 2011 23:29 brachester wrote: Hi, one friendly question. What is it that makes your videos standout from other videos like say, Day9's analysis videos?
Day is the king of SC2 video content. I wouldn't know where to start in trying to compare what we're doing to him. And if anyone hasn't seen his popular videos, at the very least, they're doing themselves a huge disservice.
Excluding him though, there's just nothing out there even close to the quality and attention to detail we bring in the educational video category in every single way. And keep in mind that part of the package is servicing our subscribers via our forums, which for some people is the primary reason for becoming a member.
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$23 a month is very big for something which you could practice on your own or alternatively research from other alternative free options like the Day[9] Daily series or even Liquipedia as far as a database of game knowledge goes.
Having said this though, your series of videos based on what I've seen are of a very good quality, and the $23 a month investment is sure to gain more value over time as more videos or website features are probably released down the line.
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I watched the PvP 4 gate special with x6Classic and I did indeed learn some great hints to improve my play PvP.
Some feedback for you guys: Obviously, Classic knows his stuff i.e. scouting, timings, what to look for, how to respond etc but he needs some work laying out his presentation. He has a voice that is easy to listen to but without a script or at least notes while talking, he fumbles a bit when giving his commentary. If he has some notes written down in advance or possibly a script with at least some bullet points, the video will be that much better and quite a bit smoother.
Keep it up! You'll make better players out of all of us.
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On October 14 2011 00:52 CecilSunkure wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2011 23:38 monx wrote: price is too high indeed. I mean i just checked Protoss video section and you get like 3-4 videos per month. Not an enough amount imo to get a subscription I'm pretty sure you get access to a lot more than that many. There's also more and more videos to come.
are you sure about that...too bad there isn't a special price for the first month.
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On October 15 2011 01:46 monx wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2011 00:52 CecilSunkure wrote:On October 13 2011 23:38 monx wrote: price is too high indeed. I mean i just checked Protoss video section and you get like 3-4 videos per month. Not an enough amount imo to get a subscription I'm pretty sure you get access to a lot more than that many. There's also more and more videos to come. are you sure about that...too bad there isn't a special price for the first month.
You can see all of the videos available here: http://hotkeyit.com/videos/ and as Cecil said, new videos are added each month. We focus on quality over quantity, and are always looking for new players who can create new, better content.
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Hey! I really like the idea of the website it's a great take on coaching for people who don't have time to sit down for a few hours with a coach necessarily. I watched the how to practice as zerg video and the hotkey video and I found them to be helpful but not necessarily worth buying. The benefit that lower level players get from this website i greater than higher level players (in my humble opinion) and i think you could actually attract a much greater market value if you made say a weekly or monthly video about "the current metagame" in each matchup, where a coach walks through his current game plan and unit compositions.
I'm making this suggestion because I feel as if (and I'm sure many other people share this feeling) my mechanics are strong and what's really holding me back is just knowing what to scout for, which compositions work very well, what openers are recommended etc. Alot of players will be attracted by this IMO because you're offering somethingt hey can apply immediately, they can watch the video and instantly start changing their gameplay in a way that really shows. The current videos ARE extremely useful for improving at the game, though they aren't enough to get me to pay for it honestly. If there was a Mr.Bitter style walking through each matchup that interested me (say any zerg matchup) then I'd consider shelling 27$ for a month .
Anyway I feel i've been very critical this is a great idea and best of luck to you! (Cross my fingers for the free subscription lol I can't afford to pay that much for coaching D=)
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Make sure you add in all the newbie tuesday's haha, thats how we used to do it! But really, Its a good idea. The coaches are all more than qualified to give beginner/intermediate players proper advice, and plenty of it. I hope you guys do well.
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you guys should make an account on their forums... there is a section where you post your replay and a pro coach will analyse it for free! I did it before when there wasn't alot of members there so I took advantage. More people join, less free analysing so do it while you still have the chance! I posted a ZvP replay and Vile.hawk told me what I did wrong and posted a replay of his own game of the similar situation and how he handled it. very good site. and $27 a month... isn't much. if you want to improve faster than just laddering then this is for you. Just try it for a month and see how much content u get. You won't be able to watch and learn them all because there's just so many. really worth it.
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Huge feedback post incoming, waiting on youtube upload. Hopefully you will enjoy it and maybe even make a billion dollars
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Awesome feedback from Tedster, and as an Web-integrator ( web coder ) i have to admit he is right in alot of he's aspects when it comes down to the design of your homepage . one of the biggest problems of your design is, as tedster already said. you red background on the sign up page. just.. gaaah. Take away my money and give me some crap ( is what you are saying to alot of ppl) and beside that. as he also mentioned, you need to show the free vids. and make some better samples. and beside that. you are kinda making the whole front page abit to "fake" . with all the. THIS IS THE BEST SITE EVER, BETTER THAN COACHING BETTER THAN EVERYTHING stuff.. escpecially when you are having the red sign up aswell.. but overall its a great idea you got , and i really like it.
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That was unexpected. Really cool. Thank you.
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On October 15 2011 23:50 sixjaxMajor wrote: skew is the best
Major go practice, i want you to see you pwning nerds with TSL
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found out about these guys through the stim.tv weekly tournaments. great resource site for beginners like myself when feeling lost in a certain match up!
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Are any of those videos on this patch? all the dates look old accept for like 3-4 videos?
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Wow you definitely seem to know what you're talking about! Really nice of you to lend some expertise and help what I consider a great idea/website get up and running. I will certainly be signing up in the very near future!
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