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On October 14 2011 01:15 CrushDog5 wrote:
I think this is a good alternative to individual coaching, which is ridiculously expensive, and may be a lot more productive in most cases. Players definitely need something more than streams and ladder, if they want to improve quickly.
I think coaching and playing are different skills.
Besides, imagine a coaching session with idra:
Idra: Thanks for the $300 dollars.
You: Sure, I'm really excited to be here. So, what did you think of the replay I sent you.
Idra: Basically, I think you're the worst player I've ever seen. Just terrible. I mean really, really bad.
You: What should I do to get better?
Idra: Get better? You're terrible. Everything you do is bad. Your macro is bad, your micro is bad. Everything. The only chance you have to win is if your opponent disconnects. Your best bet is to just put up extractors everywhere and hope for a disconnect.
You: I wouldn't do that.
Idra: I wouldn't either, but then I'm not as terrible as you.
You: But I want to improve!
Idra: Improve? You can't improve, you are awful. You've lost already. Just quit, leave the game. In fact, I can feel myself getting worse just by talking to you.
>> Idra disconnects
I sincerely hope you're not that ignorant.
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Nice to see so many people who are willing to teach other players!!!! I think it's a great a idea and it's going to be a succes, because it's not so expensive as coaching and you can spend as many time as you want on the site. Keep it up!
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I'm just wondering why you suggested to click your main command, shift+click your natural command and then control-5 to rebind the control group instead of just shift+5'ing your natural?
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On October 13 2011 10:13 Mczeppo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2011 09:14 MyLife wrote:
I wish you guys the best of luck. To be honest your lineup of coaches is not very impressive. Im sure a lot of people would agree that a couple Hours with Idra would be more helpful than a month of random "barley making it" pros that have never won a major event within their career. Even adding 1 or 2 More known pros with better results would probably increase membership 3fold. Good luck nonetheless! A couple of hours with idra would not help more because newbies have to learn basics... It's a waste of money unless you are already very good.
For the price of 2hrs with Idra you could probably subscribe to this for 5 years...lol
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desRow sent me- looks awesome!
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This site reminds me a lot of the Skill-Capped website for WoW players. I was wondering how long it would be before a site like with instructional videos would surface for SC2.. Its nice to see one out finally.
I agree 100% with what Hot_Bid said regarding coaching. Coaching ability, along with the ability to convey knowledge in a constructive manner definitely > player caliber and tournament results when it comes to something like this. You could pay $1000's of dollars to get coaching from a player like IdrA, but if they can't effectively portray scenario's for you to follow, or if they lack that sort of "teaching" ability, then there is no point. What matters is that these guys are all Grandmaster level players, so you know that they are equipped with the per-requisite knowledge required to inform lower-level players. What matters from there is the teaching ability.
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Just watched the hotkey-video you made. Its really helpful, especially using the area hotkeys (something I have done in bw, but never started again in sc2, for whatever reasons).
I really hope I didn´t miss it if it was in the video, but I think you should mention the possibility of grid layout. Especially if you start and don´t use many hotkeys at all, you don´t have to mouseover to get the hotkey, its pretty easy to memorize, and, another important factor, it is the same system for all 3 races if the player plays random or switches races every so often. A lot of players coming from broodwar just don´t like it because 1a2a3a turns to 1t2t3t, but you get used to it pretty fast 
(Its also a standard layout, I´m pretty sure you are allowed to change to that whereever you are).
Will definitely have a look at the other videos, the concept looks great, and so does your lineup.
Good luck with everything
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Cool to see another website bringing more business opportunities in to SC2 and forcing all of the coaches to step up their coaching game.
Good luck HotKeyIt !
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I gotta work on my micro >.<
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I would like to see this in SC:BW soon as well. However, Nony made some very informative SC1 youtube fpvods much like this that not only had 0 mistakes(I noticed a few in your vods, believe it or not the templar archives looks completely different from the cybernetics core :p) but went through the builds very in depth and even provided some nice humor all rapped up in a pro's close to flawless game of star craft. Considering that was for free and that there were some nice fpvods from TL Staff I think you have a lot to live up to. Especcially since new people to Star Craft but experienced in other games/life/etc. Will look at the two and immediately go:
"low price.... pretty much the same game... free guides and teaching videos or such a high price I can buy 10 copies of the other game and still not make the price of all 3 SC2 Campaigns, almost all teaching is for a price... some pro teaching is for hundreds of $... the only cheap one isn't even as high quality and still charges money... SC:BW it is."
Just my 2 minerals.
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is it just me who finds DDE working for a site called hotkeyit funny?
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On October 14 2011 09:31 turdburgler wrote:
is it just me who finds DDE working for a site called hotkeyit funny?
It is amusing even to us.
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Hmm...
i just checked out the video, and I must admit that I was really impressed with how the site is run and the overall professionalism of it.
Good luck with the site!
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Personally, I didn't find the video with Skew very helpful. I mean, he went over the basics of hotkeys, which is obviously a good thing to do, but then immediately went into why you shouldn't mess with the default hotkeys, and then into using hotkeys for going to different points on the map (the F1-F8 stuff). If I'm a new player to the game, I don't care about that at all, and I certainly don't care about events where I can't use my customized hotkeys. I think that if the video is going to be focused around hotkeys, it should be taken one step at a time, first with the basics (like building things using hotkeys) then going into control groups 1-0, (which would be the bulk of the video) and then, near the end, very briefly touching on the location hotkeys, and leaving the "you might not be able to use custom hotkeys for events" out of it altogether. That just seems like a better structure to me.
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ive been looking for stuff like this for a while. ive heard about hotkeyit along time ago. the only issue i have is the price to learning ratio... thats where ive always been uncertain whether its worth it for me. I actually enjoyed the quality and the way they set up for stuff in the free videos and would recommend those to lower level players. but like i said ive always been totally lost on whether its worth it for me personally. as there is only like 3 pages of protoss videos listed on the site and most of them are simple build order titles.
In other words i would love to try and see if there is solid knowledge for a player of my level, so i would stop losing so much =/
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On October 14 2011 10:10 KiF1rE wrote:
ive been looking for stuff like this for a while. ive heard about hotkeyit along time ago. the only issue i have is the price to learning ratio... thats where ive always been uncertain whether its worth it for me. I actually enjoyed the quality and the way they set up for stuff in the free videos and would recommend those to lower level players. but like i said ive always been totally lost on whether its worth it for me personally. as there is only like 3 pages of protoss videos listed on the site and most of them are simple build order titles.
In other words i would love to try and see if there is solid knowledge for a player of my level, so i would stop losing so much =/
despite what the aim of the site is, by the way the blizzard ladder is design, you will never stop losing so much :D
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On October 14 2011 02:58 Ripebananaa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2011 01:15 CrushDog5 wrote:
I think this is a good alternative to individual coaching, which is ridiculously expensive, and may be a lot more productive in most cases. Players definitely need something more than streams and ladder, if they want to improve quickly.
I think coaching and playing are different skills.
Besides, imagine a coaching session with idra:
Idra: Thanks for the $300 dollars.
You: Sure, I'm really excited to be here. So, what did you think of the replay I sent you.
Idra: Basically, I think you're the worst player I've ever seen. Just terrible. I mean really, really bad.
You: What should I do to get better?
Idra: Get better? You're terrible. Everything you do is bad. Your macro is bad, your micro is bad. Everything. The only chance you have to win is if your opponent disconnects. Your best bet is to just put up extractors everywhere and hope for a disconnect.
You: I wouldn't do that.
Idra: I wouldn't either, but then I'm not as terrible as you.
You: But I want to improve!
Idra: Improve? You can't improve, you are awful. You've lost already. Just quit, leave the game. In fact, I can feel myself getting worse just by talking to you.
>> Idra disconnects
I sincerely hope you're not that ignorant.
It's idra
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On October 14 2011 10:20 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2011 10:10 KiF1rE wrote:
ive been looking for stuff like this for a while. ive heard about hotkeyit along time ago. the only issue i have is the price to learning ratio... thats where ive always been uncertain whether its worth it for me. I actually enjoyed the quality and the way they set up for stuff in the free videos and would recommend those to lower level players. but like i said ive always been totally lost on whether its worth it for me personally. as there is only like 3 pages of protoss videos listed on the site and most of them are simple build order titles.
In other words i would love to try and see if there is solid knowledge for a player of my level, so i would stop losing so much =/ despite what the aim of the site is, by the way the blizzard ladder is design, you will never stop losing so much :D
true but still, how about rewording it to. losing in frustrating ways... lol. btw i realized i forgot to mention im high master, and constantly play GM's... =P
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On October 14 2011 09:32 SuitGuy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2011 09:31 turdburgler wrote:
is it just me who finds DDE working for a site called hotkeyit funny? It is amusing even to us.
? i hotkey stuff
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