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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Yesterday I was mentioning BW's lore to a friend (because of the Medic in HotS, who seem a decent design actually), and when he said it was super cringey and cliche, I linked him the Amerigo cinematic and pointed out that I actually enjoyed it because it was all done on purpose (BW didn't take itself too seriously, at least not most of the time, and even leans toward a big parody). Riot are fucking up with the individuals backgrounds (Bilgewater as a whole has a lot of character, can't deny that), but they aren't doing it on purpose.  I just finished reading Mordekaiser's new lore. Eh, there are some interesting hooks in it, but they managed to make it barely better than the 2nd version. Why not just keep some of the ambiguity pertaining to his nature and past, instead of writing it all out in at least as many words as I use for a regular post? That's such a waste, they never showed much about the Shadow Isles for so long, and now that they reveal it they make it pretty bland by laying it all like this. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
On October 28 2015 08:38 Alaric wrote: Well, had Riot's lore team not explicitely come forward and said they wanted the pieces of lore from Shurima to be seen as different points of view rather than a single story with someone right and someone wrong, I'd have grumbled at the low quality but not said much else. Yesterday I was mentioning BW's lore to a friend (because of the Medic in HotS, who seem a decent design actually), and when he said it was super cringey and cliche, I linked him the Amerigo cinematic and pointed out that I actually enjoyed it because it was all done on purpose (BW didn't take itself too seriously, at least not most of the time, and even leans toward a big parody). Riot are fucking up with the individuals backgrounds (Bilgewater as a whole has a lot of character, can't deny that), but they aren't doing it on purpose. I just finished reading Mordekaiser's new lore. Eh, there are some interesting hooks in it, but they managed to make it barely better than the 2nd version. Why not just keep some of the ambiguity pertaining to his nature and past, instead of writing it all out in at least as many words as I use for a regular post? That's such a waste, they never showed much about the Shadow Isles for so long, and now that they reveal it they make it pretty bland by laying it all like this. Haven't read the new stuff yet, but considering his old one was "He's an unknown guy in a suit of armor that chills in Noxus, spooooky!" it's probably a massive upgrade. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
I need to see if I can trackdown this CIS-Reject game vs 4 Angry Romanians and Beesa (aka Kaipi) because if it actually went through, it'll be hilarious. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
On October 28 2015 09:02 Parnage wrote: Did they ever explain why they nuked summoners and the concept of the League? or replace it with something proper yet? I remember being aghast about that and everyone telling me they are going to build the world up and change things for the better. It's been awhile sense that point, is that the case? The League stagnates anything they try to do story wise. You can't have a war or even a major battle without the Institute coming in, freezing time, and telling armies to take their ball and go home. Once a champion enters the league, their story essentially stops until another champion enters that directly changes anything. By removing the Institute Runeterra is allowed to go back to being more dynamic with things like Noxus and Demacia going back at each other's throats. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
They said they nuked the institute because it was something they created at the start of the game to justify all these champions fighting together, but that it ended up being a bit silly, and also limited them a lot even if they were ready to keep "magical peace corps" somehow policing their world. As in Syndra being unable to fight in the League other than as a forced prisoner for example (was implied in her lore), or what kind of reason they'd have to come up with to justify some champion's concept to appear in the League (technically Kindred and Tahm Kench don't exist as champions for example, Kindred are a personification of Death and how some culture see it appear to them; Tahm Kench's a personification of people's greed and desires that lead to their downfall when they have to face the consequences). It's just that it's taken them very, very long to start showing anything for it, and a bunch of champs still have stuff to be made for them (and while it's easy to retcon Brand's capture by the institute into him being on the prowl somewhere, along with reduced power so he can't just burn the world, it'd take more to include Morgana and Kayle who origined from outside worlds for example, at least if they don't plan to create yet another "magical empire from aeons ago everybody's forgotten"). As for Mordekaiser's old lore, it's more about the ambiguity (not saying "we don't know why he's there", but "what is he/is there something inside the armour, if so what?" or "why is he attracted to concentrations of disease" or "his armour's no grunt's, but what's worse, if he's a leader [with an army behind] or just a lieutenant [with an unknown boss prob creepier than him]?"), which I liked as long as it gave hooks and suggestions, compared to spraying all the information clearly in their dull writing. No more speculations or implications, just "he's a lich with other liches to guard his phylactery, doesn't have anything to do with his "metal" theme anymore, and is interested in Noxus because the whole capital is his former palace, 500-600+ years ago". | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
Back to being kind of back but not really, bye friends. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Hearthstone at least pretends to be free! Only two more days of travel. Kind of want to be home already. Need a big shot of darkest dungeon so bad. | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On October 28 2015 07:29 Requizen wrote: The Fantasy rules do exist, but they're not supported anymore, and probably won't be anywhere into the future. They aren't even available to purchase, outside of non-GW stores that have stock left over. The Fantasy universe is Age of Sigmar now. Which, sucks, but that's the way it is. 30k/40k is interchangeable in that a lot of the models have rules for both. And, you can use your 30k Marines to represent 40k Space Marines/Chaos Space Marines if you'd like. It's pretty clear on the Forgeworld site which is which, since they're in completely different sections of the site. 30k is FW exclusive as well. This new box from GW is just a board game, the actual rules for 30k/Age of Darkness are only through FW. As for places not using FW, well, there long was a stigma of FW models being broken (and some are really good, like the Y'vahra or Malanthrope), but honestly outside of the superheavies like the Warhound Titans, they're not anywhere outside of 40k's regular power levels nowadays. Most big tournaments allow FW models (occasionally with limiters of 0-1), and a quick run-through of what they do is usually enough for any FLGS players to not feel scared. Having now looked at the FW stuff, that assault ram looks sweet. I need it, but it also raises more questions on the ally rules for me. Can I just take this thing as an ally slot for a battle brother army? | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 28 2015 10:23 TheHumanSensation wrote: Having now looked at the FW stuff, that assault ram looks sweet. I need it, but it also raises more questions on the ally rules for me. Can I just take this thing as an ally slot for a battle brother army? Well, it's sorta complicated but pretty simple once you understand Detachments. + Show Spoiler [40k stuff] + A Detachment is basically a container. There are two types of Detachments: Force Org Charts (FOCs) and Formations. A FOC is basically a cluster of slots saying "you can take these, and you must take at least this this and this". The basic one is the Combined Arms Detachment, which is this: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3xQmXgI.jpg) This is the one that most armies will generally fall under, and how most people start the game. You need 1 HQ and 2 Troops. From there, you can add in up to 4 more Troops, 1-3 Elites, etc. There are other FOCs, but this one is the most normal/widespread and the one that Sisters will use if you're going to use them. Everything in your army has to be part of a Detachment (well, unless you play Unbound, but no one likes Unbound). Every model/unit can be part of only one Detachment. So, if you have a Canoness, 2 units of Sisters, they're part of one CAD. If you then have another CAD of Sisters, the Canoness is not part of that, she's part of the first. You'd need another HQ choice to make the second CAD legal. It's like, your whole army is one box, and you can have multiple buckets inside of it. Each model can only be part of one bucket, but they're all part of the same army. Whichever one has your Warlord is your Primary Detachment. There's one special FOC called the Allied Detachment. You can't have it as your main force, since your Warlord can't be part of it. But, it can be one of your Detachments in your Army. It's nice because it only requires an HQ and one Troops: ![[image loading]](http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/5/28/616790_sm-Allied%20typo.jpg) So if you want to bring another unit, it's usually best to take it here since the "tax" to bring it along is cheap. In this case, the Caestus Assault Ram is a Fast Attack choice that can be taken in any of the Loyalist Marine armies (Space Marines, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, or Dark Angels). So, if you really want to take a Caestus Ram and you're playing Sisters, you'd have a CAD of Sisters (at minimum, 1 HQ and 2 Troops), and then an Allied Detachment of Space Marines with the Assault Ram in the Fast Attack slot. The cheap tax for this sort of detachment is usually a Librarian (because Psykers are good) and a unit of Scouts (since they're nice and cheap). For Sisters, it's often not bad to ally in other armies anyway. You can get Drop Pods to move your Dominions around, or Psykers to buff them, etc. The best part about being an Imperium of Man army is that you get to share toys and buffs. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
But that's part of why his new lore was a travesty. He was interesting before. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Even so, his response to his judgement is something I think a lot of people would sympathize with, even if they don't agree with it. Way more compelling then herp derp I lied about ancient weapons of power and became a slave to an ice witch. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On October 28 2015 07:31 Numy wrote: I was going to post something but then realized our systems of law are vastly different. General advice is to get a lawyer to go through everything with you before taking any action. Don't try contact the person directly without a lawyer. Generally here if they just after money and you have insurance ,the insurance company may just decide to settle it instead which will be something between them. As I said I don't know how it works there though. Thanks. I feel like I'm worrying way more than I should. Probably (hopefully) will be fine once I personally am able to talk to insurance on my mother's behalf. | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On October 28 2015 12:26 Requizen wrote: Well, it's sorta complicated but pretty simple once you understand Detachments. + Show Spoiler [40k stuff] + A Detachment is basically a container. There are two types of Detachments: Force Org Charts (FOCs) and Formations. A FOC is basically a cluster of slots saying "you can take these, and you must take at least this this and this". The basic one is the Combined Arms Detachment, which is this: This is the one that most armies will generally fall under, and how most people start the game. You need 1 HQ and 2 Troops. From there, you can add in up to 4 more Troops, 1-3 Elites, etc. There are other FOCs, but this one is the most normal/widespread and the one that Sisters will use if you're going to use them. Everything in your army has to be part of a Detachment (well, unless you play Unbound, but no one likes Unbound). Every model/unit can be part of only one Detachment. So, if you have a Canoness, 2 units of Sisters, they're part of one CAD. If you then have another CAD of Sisters, the Canoness is not part of that, she's part of the first. You'd need another HQ choice to make the second CAD legal. It's like, your whole army is one box, and you can have multiple buckets inside of it. Each model can only be part of one bucket, but they're all part of the same army. Whichever one has your Warlord is your Primary Detachment. There's one special FOC called the Allied Detachment. You can't have it as your main force, since your Warlord can't be part of it. But, it can be one of your Detachments in your Army. It's nice because it only requires an HQ and one Troops: So if you want to bring another unit, it's usually best to take it here since the "tax" to bring it along is cheap. In this case, the Caestus Assault Ram is a Fast Attack choice that can be taken in any of the Loyalist Marine armies (Space Marines, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, or Dark Angels). So, if you really want to take a Caestus Ram and you're playing Sisters, you'd have a CAD of Sisters (at minimum, 1 HQ and 2 Troops), and then an Allied Detachment of Space Marines with the Assault Ram in the Fast Attack slot. The cheap tax for this sort of detachment is usually a Librarian (because Psykers are good) and a unit of Scouts (since they're nice and cheap). For Sisters, it's often not bad to ally in other armies anyway. You can get Drop Pods to move your Dominions around, or Psykers to buff them, etc. The best part about being an Imperium of Man army is that you get to share toys and buffs. Woah this is exactly the explanation I needed / was looking for, thanks a lot! | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Also hi guys | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On October 28 2015 13:05 sung_moon wrote: Thanks. I feel like I'm worrying way more than I should. Probably (hopefully) will be fine once I personally am able to talk to insurance on my mother's behalf. If people are actually seriously thinking of suing you, you should really talk to a lawyer. I'm sure you can get like a 20 minute or half hour session with a junior insurance attorney pretty cheap (or pro bono) depending on where you live. Just to get an idea of where you stand. The insurance company aren't necessarily on your side here, since it's in their interest to avoid paying out. And even if it's found your mother was at fault and then insurance company does pay out, then her premiums are probably going to be rekt as a result. | ||
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