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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 18:59:00
October 07 2015 18:55 GMT
#12641
Yet those wing suit guys and base jumpers never seem to have bad injuries. They're either fine or they're dead. Perhaps those doing gymnastics and cheerleading should do base jumping instead?

Poll time.

Poll: How would you describe your skill level of the video games you enjoy?

Above Average (9)
 
39%

Average (6)
 
26%

Elite (5)
 
22%

Below Average (2)
 
9%

Castlevania (1)
 
4%

Exceptionally Bad (0)
 
0%

23 total votes

Your vote: How would you describe your skill level of the video games you enjoy?

(Vote): Below Average
(Vote): Average
(Vote): Above Average
(Vote): Elite
(Vote): Castlevania
(Vote): Exceptionally Bad

Hey! How you doin'?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 07 2015 18:59 GMT
#12642
On October 08 2015 03:55 Zdrastochye wrote:
Yet those wing suit guys and base jumpers never seem to have bad injuries. They're either fine or they're dead. Perhaps those doing gymnastics and cheerleading should do base jumping instead?


Pff, those guys have no balls. They only fly every once in a while, and they have a damn parachute to slow them down.

+ Show Spoiler +
I would looooooove to do wing suit flying, but it's quite a long process to get certified. I really just need to go sky diving again.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 07 2015 19:02 GMT
#12643
The thing to remember about Zdra's latest poll is that for most games you're probably above average simply by virtue of posting here.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 07 2015 19:04 GMT
#12644
On October 08 2015 03:55 Zdrastochye wrote:
Yet those wing suit guys and base jumpers never seem to have bad injuries. They're either fine or they're dead. Perhaps those doing gymnastics and cheerleading should do base jumping instead?

Poll time.

Poll: How would you describe your skill level of the video games you enjoy?

Above Average (9)
 
39%

Average (6)
 
26%

Elite (5)
 
22%

Below Average (2)
 
9%

Castlevania (1)
 
4%

Exceptionally Bad (0)
 
0%

23 total votes

Your vote: How would you describe your skill level of the video games you enjoy?

(Vote): Below Average
(Vote): Average
(Vote): Above Average
(Vote): Elite
(Vote): Castlevania
(Vote): Exceptionally Bad


What if I'm above average at castlevania?
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 19:07:20
October 07 2015 19:06 GMT
#12645
On October 08 2015 04:02 Seuss wrote:
The thing to remember about Zdra's latest poll is that for most games you're probably above average simply by virtue of posting here.


I'm not sure about that. I'm most definitely average in most of the games that I play, despite posting here. I spend far too much time now doing real life stuff that I can't afford to be a good player anymore. The game I am the best at requires more thought than the spacial awareness and APM that my favorite games require (dota, league, csgo).

tl:dr I'm only good at a children's card game.

On October 08 2015 04:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 03:55 Zdrastochye wrote:
Yet those wing suit guys and base jumpers never seem to have bad injuries. They're either fine or they're dead. Perhaps those doing gymnastics and cheerleading should do base jumping instead?

Poll time.

Poll: How would you describe your skill level of the video games you enjoy?

Above Average (9)
 
39%

Average (6)
 
26%

Elite (5)
 
22%

Below Average (2)
 
9%

Castlevania (1)
 
4%

Exceptionally Bad (0)
 
0%

23 total votes

Your vote: How would you describe your skill level of the video games you enjoy?

(Vote): Below Average
(Vote): Average
(Vote): Above Average
(Vote): Elite
(Vote): Castlevania
(Vote): Exceptionally Bad


What if I'm above average at castlevania?


Castlevania is never a wrong answer my friend.
Hey! How you doin'?
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 07 2015 19:20 GMT
#12646
If you're at least Silver in LoL you're above average. Average =/= good.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 19:25:44
October 07 2015 19:24 GMT
#12647
Depends how you view the data I suppose. If you draw a line in the sand at half the playerbase and say "If there are exactly 50% of the players who play this game that are worse than me, I am above average". Personally I envision a bell curve, where the lower limits and the upper limits are outside of the largest distribution of players. So if you're within one standard deviation of the mean, you're average. When you're outside of the bell curve you're above or below average. And when the graph just about straightens out you'd be elite or that Urgot main guy who played like 3,000 games before he got out of bronze.
Hey! How you doin'?
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
October 07 2015 19:25 GMT
#12648
On October 07 2015 10:41 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 08:59 TheHumanSensation wrote:
On October 07 2015 07:53 phyvo wrote:
That tidbit about how ducks and geese contribute your local problem absolutely fascinates me, I would like to read that story if ever you get around to posting it.


<snip story>

edit: also for reference keep in mind I'm talking like 25k+ birds at minimum

tl;dr farming is weird


The problem seems big, but it's also REALLY INTERESTING, thanks for sharing. I hope you figure something out.


np np my life sucks but if I can turn it into stories that entertain people for a brief moment before we all fall into the abyss then that's ok

On October 08 2015 00:39 ComaDose wrote:
I wana try outdoor paintball i think that would be more fun. Indoor was fun too but eventually you just get pinned down by someone with a much better gun then you and try and peek out till you get shot in the face.

archery sounds really fun... and hey there is one close to me...


Outdoor paintball is more fun for more or less this reason. Indoor everything is too rigidly defined and stuff so better gear/skill will always win, but outdoor there's way more variables so luck aside it's easier to overcome gear with skill.

Although some of the rental equipment can get really janky in outdoor places. I would recommend always bringing a slingshot just in case, as silly as it sounds. I've never tried archery tag, but they have one near here as well. I've played with gomuyumi before, but idk how that would translate into something like archery tag.

On October 08 2015 04:02 Seuss wrote:
The thing to remember about Zdra's latest poll is that for most games you're probably above average simply by virtue of posting here.


I'm really good at slot machines
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 07 2015 19:26 GMT
#12649
On October 08 2015 04:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
Depends how you view the data I suppose. If you draw a line in the sand at half the playerbase and say "If there are exactly 50% of the players who play this game that are worse than me, I am above average". Personally I envision a bell curve, where the lower limits and the upper limits are outside of the largest distribution of players. So if you're within one standard deviation of the mean, you're average. When you're outside of the bell curve you're above average. And when the graph just about straightens out you'd be elite.


Even if you look at it that way, being above average isn't that difficult

[image loading]

Beyond 1 SD is like mid-high gold probably? (completely guessing, I'm too lazy to math)
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 07 2015 19:27 GMT
#12650
On October 08 2015 04:26 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 04:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
Depends how you view the data I suppose. If you draw a line in the sand at half the playerbase and say "If there are exactly 50% of the players who play this game that are worse than me, I am above average". Personally I envision a bell curve, where the lower limits and the upper limits are outside of the largest distribution of players. So if you're within one standard deviation of the mean, you're average. When you're outside of the bell curve you're above average. And when the graph just about straightens out you'd be elite.


Even if you look at it that way, being above average isn't that difficult

[image loading]

Beyond 1 SD is like mid-high gold probably? (completely guessing, I'm too lazy to math)


Yeah and due to decay I'm in gold 5 and gold 3 in league. And gold 2 on LAN. So right in the middle.
Hey! How you doin'?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 19:30:31
October 07 2015 19:29 GMT
#12651
Oh, don't worry bud. I wasn't suggesting that you're above average.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 07 2015 19:30 GMT
#12652
Yeah I'm actually way below average.

But I can still take you.
Hey! How you doin'?
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 07 2015 19:39 GMT
#12653
Considering the only game I've been playing is the elite, it just seemed obvious to choose elite. Admittedly League has been the only game I've played where I've put in a amount of time and felt like I don't improve actively.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 19:45:05
October 07 2015 19:42 GMT
#12654
On October 08 2015 04:02 Seuss wrote:
The thing to remember about Zdra's latest poll is that for most games you're probably above average simply by virtue of posting here.

Yup, I'm bad at HS and I've seen my skill at League drop (seeing it happen while being conscious of it is pretty depressing, though, because the decrease is mental, not in execution).
I think I'm in the average or slightly below it at WoT though, I'm not good at that game (especially not at some kinds of tanks/artillery).
Not even level 13 in DotA to calibrate yet.

See it's weird because by virtue of loving puzzle solving and racking my head I'm pretty sure I could come up with more decent all-around decks than a bunch of MtG players, when you consider the whole playerbase. But for one I'm probably willing to spend more time racking said head to come up with something and polish it than the average casual, and for two that I'm not totally trash at homebrewing (within the confines of standard, and considering I'm bad at limited according to previous results) doesn't mean I know how to actually competently play a deck.
So different aspects really. The thing that's hurting my head atm is how would one decide to hold mana for a counter/combat trick as opposed to playing a dude, especially if he's not already ahead.

On October 08 2015 03:11 Frudgey wrote:
I added him on League and then he never said a word to me. I removed him from my friends list and never looked back.

I think that's the first time I've seen you say something genuinely negative about somebody.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 07 2015 19:43 GMT
#12655
On October 08 2015 04:27 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 04:26 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 08 2015 04:24 Zdrastochye wrote:
Depends how you view the data I suppose. If you draw a line in the sand at half the playerbase and say "If there are exactly 50% of the players who play this game that are worse than me, I am above average". Personally I envision a bell curve, where the lower limits and the upper limits are outside of the largest distribution of players. So if you're within one standard deviation of the mean, you're average. When you're outside of the bell curve you're above average. And when the graph just about straightens out you'd be elite.


Even if you look at it that way, being above average isn't that difficult

[image loading]

Beyond 1 SD is like mid-high gold probably? (completely guessing, I'm too lazy to math)


Yeah and due to decay I'm in gold 5 and gold 3 in league. And gold 2 on LAN. So right in the middle.


Nope. You're above average.

There are currently 10.5 million players worldwide. Of those 7.25 million are Bronze/Silver. Simply being Gold V puts you in the top 30% of players.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 07 2015 19:46 GMT
#12656
Okay, fair point. I'm above average in league.

It's balanced out by being below average in dota (I have like 180 hours and I can barely win vs hard bots), above average in csgo, and below average in SC2.
Hey! How you doin'?
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
October 07 2015 19:51 GMT
#12657
Hmmm, before I took my 2 month break, I was hovering around 3.2-3.8k party in dota, in FF14...I'm not at an elite level, but I'm not sure where I fall as I haven't started doing Savage content yet.

When I played FPS games I pulled between a 1.5 and a 2 K/D, depending on map/game/mode.
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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 20:27:38
October 07 2015 20:25 GMT
#12658
Anyone interested in watching me fail at rivals of aether tonight? I'm thinking of trying to stream it. From my experience yesterday I'm definitely below average.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 20:41:20
October 07 2015 20:40 GMT
#12659
On October 08 2015 04:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
Okay, fair point. I'm above average in league.

It's balanced out by being below average in dota (I have like 180 hours and I can barely win vs hard bots), above average in csgo, and below average in SC2.


My overarching point is that the kind of people I see posting here have a tendency to undervalue their own abilities. They're so used to a higher standard of play that their concept of "average" is heavily skewed upward.

For example, Rank 17 in Hearthstone is above average by my definition, and Rank 16-15 is above average by yours. I guarantee you if I'd posted a poll most people would have guessed somewhere between 15-10, possibly higher.

It's pretty hard to have perspective on this sort of thing so it's not surprising, but the flip side of the Dunning-Kruger coin is that it's easy for people to take their own abilities for granted. Things that you just naturally do as a matter of course/habit are foreign and inexplicable to someone else, and set you apart without you realizing it.

That's my pep talk for the day.

On October 08 2015 05:25 phyvo wrote:
Anyone interested in watching me fail at rivals of aether tonight? I'm thinking of trying to stream it. From my experience yesterday I'm definitely below average.


Sadly I have choir practice.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 20:45:48
October 07 2015 20:44 GMT
#12660
On October 08 2015 05:25 phyvo wrote:
Anyone interested in watching me fail at rivals of aether tonight? I'm thinking of trying to stream it. From my experience yesterday I'm definitely below average.


If I'm around I'll check it out. I haven't really heard much about it.

On October 08 2015 05:40 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 04:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
Okay, fair point. I'm above average in league.

It's balanced out by being below average in dota (I have like 180 hours and I can barely win vs hard bots), above average in csgo, and below average in SC2.


My overarching point is that the kind of people I see posting here have a tendency to undervalue their own abilities. They're so used to a higher standard of play that their concept of "average" is heavily skewed upward.

For example, Rank 17 in Hearthstone is above average by my definition, and Rank 16-15 is above average by yours. I guarantee you if I'd posted a poll most people would have guessed somewhere between 15-10, possibly higher.

It's pretty hard to have perspective on this sort of thing so it's not surprising, but the flip side of the Dunning-Kruger coin is that it's easy for people to take their own abilities for granted. Things that you just naturally do as a matter of course/habit are foreign and inexplicable to someone else, and set you apart without you realizing it.


That means my Vegas Mage is an average deck! \o/
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