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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
January 17 2014 21:14 GMT
#19181
Wait what? No Sylvanas?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
January 17 2014 21:17 GMT
#19182
Fuck no, I originally added Sylvanas to the list because team dogehouse had a fucking hardon for it. That card isn't the hot mess everyone thinks it is. At 5 mana it could be in here, at 6? I'll play faceless's instead.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-17 21:17:41
January 17 2014 21:17 GMT
#19183
[image loading] pls
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
January 17 2014 21:18 GMT
#19184
I imagine it'd lose to control warriors pretty hard, but it still seems like a good deck. Sylvanas seems totally unnecessary in that deck because you don't need her to be a threat to their board state. She'd be more of a win-more, and a great silence target since not really many other targets scream "silence me".
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 17 2014 21:19 GMT
#19185
Is Divine Favor that good? It seemed weird to me, like late game one-off to retain tempo in case you end up top-decking against an opponent with a hand.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 17 2014 21:19 GMT
#19186
I will never get tired of that picture.
I will, however, probably pass out at my desk before I get to streaming tonight 'cause I'm fucking exhausted.
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
January 17 2014 21:20 GMT
#19187
On January 18 2014 06:19 Alaric wrote:
Is Divine Favor that good? It seemed weird to me, like late game one-off to retain tempo in case you end up top-decking against an opponent with a hand.


He plays it as a counter to control warlocks/mages.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
January 17 2014 21:22 GMT
#19188
On January 18 2014 06:17 Cixah wrote:
Fuck no, I originally added Sylvanas to the list because team dogehouse had a fucking hardon for it. That card isn't the hot mess everyone thinks it is. At 5 mana it could be in here, at 6? I'll play faceless's instead.

Oh it got nerfed to 6 mana. Ok I can understand that then since at 6 you want to be Leeroy'ing people's faces.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 17 2014 21:22 GMT
#19189
How does it counter them? Because of their hero powers that tend to make them pile up on cards, so he can swarm the board with his little guys and threaten heavy damage if they don't play their hand instead?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
January 17 2014 21:23 GMT
#19190
On January 18 2014 06:19 Alaric wrote:
Is Divine Favor that good? It seemed weird to me, like late game one-off to retain tempo in case you end up top-decking against an opponent with a hand.


Divine Favor is a VERY good card because your hardest matchup is ALWAYS warlock and mage. These 2 decks love to have lots of card in their hand specificly because everyone is playing Curi's Handlock. The Mountain Giant thing?

In that counter match, if they first card they try to cast is a turn 4 Mountain Giant/Twilight Drake. You are drawing 7 cards on turn 4.

7 cards for 3 mana is INSANE return. Like there isn't even a card to compare it to in value because it has never been printed in the history of card games ever.

That is how good. Divine Favor is.
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
January 17 2014 21:25 GMT
#19191
On January 18 2014 06:23 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 06:19 Alaric wrote:
Is Divine Favor that good? It seemed weird to me, like late game one-off to retain tempo in case you end up top-decking against an opponent with a hand.


Divine Favor is a VERY good card because your hardest matchup is ALWAYS warlock and mage. These 2 decks love to have lots of card in their hand specificly because everyone is playing Curi's Handlock. The Mountain Giant thing?

In that counter match, if they first card they try to cast is a turn 4 Mountain Giant/Twilight Drake. You are drawing 7 cards on turn 4.

7 cards for 3 mana is INSANE return. Like there isn't even a card to compare it to in value because it has never been printed in the history of card games ever.

That is how good. Divine Favor is.


Yeah but what do you do to deal with the turn 4 MG, will you burn equality just for it? If not he can simply taunt it while taking out all your minis.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 17 2014 21:27 GMT
#19192
On January 18 2014 06:14 MoonBear wrote:
Wait what? No Sylvanas?

Cutting the 2nd Equality was actually more surprising to me than no Sylvanas.
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
January 17 2014 21:27 GMT
#19193
On January 18 2014 06:25 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 06:23 Cixah wrote:
On January 18 2014 06:19 Alaric wrote:
Is Divine Favor that good? It seemed weird to me, like late game one-off to retain tempo in case you end up top-decking against an opponent with a hand.


Divine Favor is a VERY good card because your hardest matchup is ALWAYS warlock and mage. These 2 decks love to have lots of card in their hand specificly because everyone is playing Curi's Handlock. The Mountain Giant thing?

In that counter match, if they first card they try to cast is a turn 4 Mountain Giant/Twilight Drake. You are drawing 7 cards on turn 4.

7 cards for 3 mana is INSANE return. Like there isn't even a card to compare it to in value because it has never been printed in the history of card games ever.

That is how good. Divine Favor is.


Yeah but what do you do to deal with the turn 4 MG, will you burn equality just for it? If not he can simply taunt it while taking out all your minis.


Equality/Swords/Conc/Chip away at it.

Your goal is to kill him and maintain boardcontrol. When you out number his dudes 5 or 6 to 1, it's pretty easy even with an army of 1s and 2s and 3s.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
January 17 2014 21:30 GMT
#19194
Handlock still seems good vs minis. Hellfire is pretty good vs your deck, and without an equality in your first 10 cards if he gets 2 8/8 taunts you're probably boned.
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
January 17 2014 21:31 GMT
#19195
It's still a bad matchup, I won't deny. The Favor just makes it less of a bad matchup because you simply see more cards than he does.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 17 2014 21:31 GMT
#19196
On January 18 2014 06:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
I will never get tired of that picture.
I will, however, probably pass out at my desk before I get to streaming tonight 'cause I'm fucking exhausted.


oh good, might stream smite adventures then
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
January 17 2014 21:33 GMT
#19197
On January 18 2014 06:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 06:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
I will never get tired of that picture.
I will, however, probably pass out at my desk before I get to streaming tonight 'cause I'm fucking exhausted.


oh good, might stream smite adventures then

your smite adventures now are like this+ Show Spoiler +
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caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-17 21:35:25
January 17 2014 21:34 GMT
#19198
Why do ppl call it hand lock? It's just standard warlock control. I'm also not a fan of people attaching their name to a whole archetype.

and divine favor is excellent for weenies. It lets you overextend and be extra aggressive.
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
January 17 2014 21:35 GMT
#19199
Cixah just called it that.

I like to call it slow lock, because I can also pretend people who play it are slow in the head.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-17 21:40:59
January 17 2014 21:35 GMT
#19200
On January 18 2014 06:19 Alaric wrote:
Is Divine Favor that good? It seemed weird to me, like late game one-off to retain tempo in case you end up top-decking against an opponent with a hand.

Given this deck's tendency to basically play out all it's 1 and 2 drop threats quickly, even a midgame Divine Favor to get answers you want like Truesilver, Equality, or Avenging Wrath is huge.

Divine Favor for 3 cards is already above-value compared to most other draw spells in the game, and for 4 is just insane. Just watching Cixah's games, you should see it's pretty common for him to go to 1-2 cards in hand while the enemy still has 4-5, especially if he's on the play. You don't need a blowout 7-card Divine Favor for it to be ridiculous value, and it only gets better in the aforementioned hard matchups.

On January 18 2014 06:23 Cixah wrote:
7 cards for 3 mana is INSANE return. Like there isn't even a card to compare it to in value because it has never been printed in the history of card games ever.

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