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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
May 23 2015 06:41 GMT
#101321
are there any guides on how to get into xcom long war coming off of vanilla?
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
May 23 2015 07:14 GMT
#101322
On May 23 2015 15:31 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 15:13 Ketara wrote:
Also, Denmark apparently going to be the next country to ban burkas. Why is Europe so islamaphobic/racist/bigoted in general lolololol.

Killerdoge please.

Why is islam so fashionphobia?


1.) There's actually a lot of Muslim designers out there and a lot of really cool styles they produce! Not that many other people share my excitement of the topic.

2.) What are you wearing right now?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 23 2015 07:30 GMT
#101323
Wei probably naked and reading a dictionary.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-23 07:31:45
May 23 2015 07:31 GMT
#101324
On May 23 2015 16:14 TheHumanSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 15:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 23 2015 15:13 Ketara wrote:
Also, Denmark apparently going to be the next country to ban burkas. Why is Europe so islamaphobic/racist/bigoted in general lolololol.

Killerdoge please.

Why is islam so fashionphobia?


1.) There's actually a lot of Muslim designers out there and a lot of really cool styles they produce! Not that many other people share my excitement of the topic.

2.) What are you wearing right now?

nike golf shorts + random t-shirt with a moose head on it.
On May 23 2015 16:30 Ketara wrote:
Wei probably naked and reading a dictionary.

dictionary? plz, my vocabulary is pretty much limited to, "rofl, lmao, lol"
liftlift > tsm
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 23 2015 08:05 GMT
#101325
http://fantasy.lolesports.com/share/join/league/731367/PnV3XqP7Tui9sHwfj8Al

Still got room for 2 on songbet.
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-23 13:47:50
May 23 2015 12:26 GMT
#101326
On May 23 2015 15:41 Frolossus wrote:
are there any guides on how to get into xcom long war coming off of vanilla?

Sure.

Talk to me.

I can also get back into streaming XCOM next week, since people were asking about it.


+ Show Spoiler +
Anyways, first things first, scan the wiki:

http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Long_War

Second, for the love of god, don't pick brutal or impossible difficulty your first time. Pick normal or, if you're actually good at the game, classic, for your first run. The +base damage makes aliens ridiculously lethal in impossible, so unless you get familiar with Long War mechanics, I don't recommend it for anyone. Heck, turn on cinematic mode.

There are several changes to remember: first, the new classes. There are a bunch of new perks, but those you can figure out yourself. Snipers are Snipers; they're no longer ridiculously op into the late game because late game enemies have gigantic health pools, but they're still useful for disabling shot and ITZ clearing packs of enemies after cover's been cleared; their power curve is pretty flat: they're useful at all stages of the game. Scouts on the other hand are very useful early game, but start falling off late because they don't have the same damage potential as other classes (lightning reflexes is great, but they aren't killy, and utility is taken up by medics and packmaster engineers later). Good covert operative candidates though.

Gunners start weak, but become essential starting around month 4 because unless you went for a gauss rush (which is a terrible strategy btw) cyberdicks come online and rape you because are basically impervious to ballistics, and it's hard to kill them with laser weaponry fire without HEAT ammo gunners (or some risky shotgun plays); beyond this, there are bullet wizard gunners useful for AOE suppression. Rocketeers are rocketeers (always useful), but their aim early on sucks (so make sure you give them the carbine for +aim and steady aim the turn before you want to fire a rocket). Also note that in LW, firing rockets will give +1 mobility afterwards.

Medics are a very good support unit now; not only are they the prime psi candidates because they get high will in general (also, you want psi online by ~November so you can actually deal with the stupidity that is Heavy Floaters; they will completely wreck your shit otherwise); can be built full medic (not terribly useful now that field surgeon is the second perk you can pick up), overwatchy (medics are decent at it), or support grenadey (overlaps with the engineer abit however, but "scales" the best). Engineers are your go-to item carriers: Repair makes them the go-to for capturing aliens and also hacking stuff (like hacking boss enemies + Show Spoiler +
At 11.44
, sapper makes them extremely useful early on for destroying cover (which makes life so much easier, though sapper engineers do fall off later as engagement ranges drastically increase), and they're the #1 battlescanner and support grenade carriers (which you should always bring: you get access to flashbangs from the get-go, which will 100% make your life easier, especially on your first terror mission or on Newfoundland, though newfy now has a "surprise" in addition to the other things). A possible covert operative candidate (since they don't really lose their grenades when sent on missions), but in general scouts and assaults are flat out superior because of disarm chains you can pull off+flanking with a CCS assault.

And then the workhorses. Infantry are your core units, basically; in an 8 man squad, expect 2 or more to be infantry; they shoot really well, overwatch really well, tank really well, and are probably the best officer candidates given their positioning. Nothing much more to say than use them. Assaults are more specialized early on (though you always take one to make short work of UFOs; a shotgun crit will severely damage or kill the outsider which greatly reduces the risk) and gain value as they get much more "killy" as the game progresses. Not useful in a long-range shootout but hey, urban maps are common enough. Excellent covert operative candidates as well, since R&G allows you to make distance and reach communications arrays and activate them in 1 turn, which will seriously lessen the difficulty of EXALT missions).


Beyond this, most things you can figure out. Country boni are up to you to evaluate because they are seriously tailored to your strategy, much more diverse than the "start in Asia, let sat be shot down, rebuild air coverage in NA" cheese strat, since continent boni no longer apply for where you start. MECs are somewhat nerfed from vanilla, and I personally don't use them. Make sure to get a repair bay up quickly to deal with item repairs (you can turn this feature off if you want), the air war is a crapshoot: prioritize alien materials or advanced lasers ASAP so you can reliably shoot UFOs larger than a scout and maybe a fighter down (and make sure to swap the missiles on a few Interceptors to the AP missiles for fighters). There are alot of tech orders to choose from: I generally go for straight weapon tech because of aforementioned air war issues, but going for alien materials early is good if you don't want aliens to seriously wound your soldiers on near every shot, and going alien materials+xenobiology will help start your engineer+scientist flow via requests, which is important to get your early research flowing). Alot of people like starting 1 or 2 labs, actually, to help with early research, though I forego them in favor of getting sat coverage of NA up and foundry salvage upgrades to make sure I have enough alloys/weapons fragments for later).


That was...rather long, holy shit.

Oh right, and don't attempt EVERY mission. Long War is designed so that you may have to skip some due to fatigue/wound timers, or difficulty. Like, Month 1 landed transport can REALLY kickstart your economic game, but you better be prepared to face an Outsider pod (which are super scary in LW), 'lids, seekers and floaters (good lord those are annoying) while on ballistics.

Speaking of Game Mods.



Pretty much explains everything, really.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
May 23 2015 14:36 GMT
#101327
Song of the day:

- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 23 2015 15:23 GMT
#101328
I'd appreciate if song bet draft date was announced in advance so that I can adjust my sleep schedule if necessary :3
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
May 23 2015 17:55 GMT
#101329
On May 23 2015 13:33 wei2coolman wrote:
At jack in the box, just heard a group of highschoolers prounced 'meme' as 'mime'. What da fuq?

My girlfriend pronounced it "me-me"

Thought she was actually trolling me for a second..
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
May 23 2015 18:40 GMT
#101330
hey, who would be up for some pictionary in like 1.5 hours?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-23 18:51:00
May 23 2015 18:50 GMT
#101331
On May 24 2015 00:23 AlterKot wrote:
I'd appreciate if song bet draft date was announced in advance so that I can adjust my sleep schedule if necessary :3


Monday is a Holiday in the states so we can do it after 02:45 GMT (+00:00) if you guys want. Tuesday is the last day because day one of EU LCS starts wednesday. It's full now too so.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 23 2015 19:02 GMT
#101332
On May 24 2015 02:55 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 13:33 wei2coolman wrote:
At jack in the box, just heard a group of highschoolers prounced 'meme' as 'mime'. What da fuq?

My girlfriend pronounced it "me-me"

Thought she was actually trolling me for a second..

I don't wanna say your relationship is doomed to fail.... But...
liftlift > tsm
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 23 2015 19:11 GMT
#101333
On May 24 2015 03:50 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 00:23 AlterKot wrote:
I'd appreciate if song bet draft date was announced in advance so that I can adjust my sleep schedule if necessary :3


Monday is a Holiday in the states so we can do it after 02:45 GMT (+00:00) if you guys want. Tuesday is the last day because day one of EU LCS starts wednesday. It's full now too so.

Sunday would be great. I might be able to do it monday but it's sketchy. Definitely can't do Tuesday.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
May 23 2015 19:20 GMT
#101334
I've biked 31 miles today. What have you guys been up to?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 23 2015 19:26 GMT
#101335
On May 24 2015 04:20 mordek wrote:
I've biked 31 miles today. What have you guys been up to?

I tasted my own saliva.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Sunaj
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada2041 Posts
May 23 2015 19:36 GMT
#101336
I'm free Sunday, and anytime on Monday before 8pm AST.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 23 2015 19:40 GMT
#101337
On May 24 2015 04:26 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 04:20 mordek wrote:
I've biked 31 miles today. What have you guys been up to?

I tasted my own saliva.

well arent we adventurous
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 23 2015 19:44 GMT
#101338
you just wish you got some
A backwards poet writes inverse.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 23 2015 20:00 GMT
#101339
On May 24 2015 04:20 mordek wrote:
I've biked 31 miles today. What have you guys been up to?

Choked and armbarred for an hour and a half. Then planning on watching ufc.
liftlift > tsm
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 23 2015 20:03 GMT
#101340
On May 24 2015 04:11 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 03:50 Cixah wrote:
On May 24 2015 00:23 AlterKot wrote:
I'd appreciate if song bet draft date was announced in advance so that I can adjust my sleep schedule if necessary :3


Monday is a Holiday in the states so we can do it after 02:45 GMT (+00:00) if you guys want. Tuesday is the last day because day one of EU LCS starts wednesday. It's full now too so.

Sunday would be great. I might be able to do it monday but it's sketchy. Definitely can't do Tuesday.


I'm fine with Sunday too. I can do it tonight if everyone is around as well.
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