Off-Topic General Discussion - Page 4952

On May 09 2015 02:19 Parnage wrote:
How uncivilized..

Speaking of Dota, I click lina to run the fuck away, lina goes forward then turns and explodes at critical times. I'm terrible but that annoys me, just something I need to deal with or can I do something to stop that?

On May 09 2015 03:22 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:


the practicality of it is questionable but Hume's ultimate point was to show that science is not based upon reason but on experience because it's impossible to show that the future will resemble the past without using circular reasoning and presupposing that the future resembles the past as a premise. (funnily enough Hum set out to show that science was based upon reason in his initial idea for the book).

of course many people including Immanuel Kant have disagreed with Hume but depending on who you ask they have had varying degrees of success with it. (In his history of western Philosophy Bertrand Russel concluded that no one has ever properly dealt with the problem of induction.)

on a technical point it's been pretty established that we can use logic to show we exist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito_ergo_sum "The simple meaning of the Latin phrase is that thinking about one’s existence proves—in and of itself—that an "I" exists to do the thinking; or, as Descartes explains, "[W]e cannot doubt of our existence while we doubt … ." aka the mere fact that we can think about us not existing proves that we are thinking which proves something that is us exists.

whether we can refute skepticism of anything other than that is also debateable and Hume concluded that while we can't refute skepticism we can disregard it because it's ultimately useless.

On May 09 2015 02:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh SG is only 15 bucks? I thought it'd be more expensive considering how apprehensive some people were about getting it. I'll probably pick it up in a couple weeks, super busy these next two, then I'll join in on Wave and Soniv smashing my ass to oblivion in it.

On May 09 2015 03:30 Slayer91 wrote:
yes based on that premise you cant and cogito ergo sum doesnt work on some other premises im sure somebody also made up

edit cruisnik stop spoiling please

On May 09 2015 03:34 Frudgey wrote:

Thanks for posting the Philosophy.

Always get a kick reading this kind of stuff. I think for the most part I agree with Hume's philosophy. I think he brings up a lot of good points.

On May 09 2015 03:37 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:


yeah usually philosohpy is based around arguing about premises and of course nothing's been completely proved of course. people have and do reject pretty much everything. even the cogito has a ton of objections raised to it

a lot of it is about language and how things are interpreted which can vary from person to person. Miachael Dummet said in the 70s that " the proper object of philosophy" is "the analysis of the structure of thought, [for which] the only proper method [is] the analysis of langauge."

On May 09 2015 03:36 WaveofShadow wrote:

Often way cheaper due to frequent sales. You're missing a few characters worth of DLC though,if you don't want to play endless beta mode (and which is ending as soon as robo fortune drops).