Off-Topic General Discussion - Page 4951

On May 09 2015 02:23 Slayer91 wrote:
with a thread left to americans it ultimately ends up in conversations about how to get fatter or to play pokemon when you're too fat to move.

I am the saviour of this thread.
In this thread, wherever there is moderation - there are trolls. As long as the concept of whiners exists,there must also be losers. The selfish desire of wanting to maintain PC causes flamewars, and hatred is born to protect love. These are causal relationships that cannot be avoided.

On May 09 2015 02:40 Crusnik wrote:
Those characters are so cliché'd, its hilarious. Its also nice to note that naruto 7th hokage has the same quality as the end of naruto, aka trash. Maybe It'll pick up, but family drama seems to be the best thing brewing after 3 chapters.

On May 09 2015 02:19 Parnage wrote:
How uncivilized..

Speaking of Dota, I click lina to run the fuck away, lina goes forward then turns and explodes at critical times. I'm terrible but that annoys me, just something I need to deal with or can I do something to stop that?

On May 09 2015 02:55 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:



I think that trolls would exist without moderation. moderation doesn't cause trolling, trolling causes moderation. I mean of course if there was no moderation and you could post whatever you wanted their wouldn't be a strict idea of trolling but thered still be terrible posting.



so they didn't technically end naruto just did a massive timejump and renamed it?

On May 09 2015 02:55 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:



I think that trolls would exist without moderation. moderation doesn't cause trolling, trolling causes moderation. I mean of course if there was no moderation and you could post whatever you wanted their wouldn't be a strict idea of trolling but thered still be terrible posting.

On May 09 2015 02:57 Slayer91 wrote:


nah man didnt you read they are causal relationships that cannot be avoided

On May 09 2015 03:01 Slayer91 wrote:
well you'd be pretty stupid to believe david hume on that point then
dont worry guys photon momentum isn't related to plancks constant because david hume said so

On May 09 2015 03:05 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:



I dont think your quite understanding Hume's point

On May 09 2015 02:28 Slayer91 wrote:
the reference went over your head soniv dont worry about it

just pretend you get it and titter about how witty i am
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On May 09 2015 03:06 Slayer91 wrote:
no he didn't believe in casual relationships



i didnt read it yet im not interested in semantics which is probably basically what it is since its philosophy and trying to deny the existence of a logical concept

On May 09 2015 03:11 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:



the problem though is if its not based on reason it can't be a logical concept because logic itself is reason. there's nothing wrong with simply saying its common sense and thats its reasonable to expect though.


Hume's point is that we can't use reason to show causality. not that we should pretend it doesn't appear to happen

On May 09 2015 03:16 Slayer91 wrote:


is there any practical application of that point? if not then who cares
we cant use reason to show we truly exist but who cares

On May 09 2015 02:55 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:



I think that trolls would exist without moderation. moderation doesn't cause trolling, trolling causes moderation. I mean of course if there was no moderation and you could post whatever you wanted their wouldn't be a strict idea of trolling but thered still be terrible posting.



so they didn't technically end naruto just did a massive timejump and renamed it?

On May 09 2015 03:22 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:


the practicality of it is questionable but Hume's ultimate point was to show that science is not based upon reason but on experience because it's impossible to show that the future will resemble the past without using circular reasoning and presupposing that the future resembles the past as a premise. (funnily enough Hum set out to show that science was based upon reason in his initial idea for the book).

of course many people including Immanuel Kant have disagreed with Hume but depending on who you ask they have had varying degrees of success with it. (In his history of western Philosophy Bertrand Russel concluded that no one has ever properly dealt with the problem of induction.)

on a technical point it's been pretty established that we can use logic to show we exist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito_ergo_sum "The simple meaning of the Latin phrase is that thinking about one’s existence proves—in and of itself—that an "I" exists to do the thinking; or, as Descartes explains, "[W]e cannot doubt of our existence while we doubt … ." aka the mere fact that we can think about us not existing proves that we are thinking which proves something that is us exists.

whether we can refute skepticism of anything other than that is also debateable and Hume concluded that while we can't refute skepticism we can disregard it because it's ultimately useless.