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On May 07 2015 05:17 AlterKot wrote:
I have a heart attack each time someone calls Melee an "esport".
Euro PX?
+ Show Spoiler +
Scip u jelly?
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On May 07 2015 05:16 sung_moon wrote:
I didn't think Smash players could reach the sodium levels of Marvel players, until I saw "Smash Salty moments" videos.
That guy Kiraflax tho.
edit: Just how big is Smash in Japan?
Dude, the salt is real.
That's where "...or na?" comes from
+ Show Spoiler +probably false, but works
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Man I'm not going compete with someone online for a free game. It's all sorts of messed up. At this point it's just silly >.>
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Poll: Why did you start watching melee (started watching it again)?Smash Documentary (8) 36% Post Brawl darkage revival (5) 23% Never left (5) 23% I am literally a mod for /r/Kappa (4) 18% Evo hype! (0) 0% 22 total votes Your vote: Why did you start watching melee (started watching it again)? (Vote): Post Brawl darkage revival
(Vote): Smash Documentary
(Vote): Evo hype!
(Vote): Never left
(Vote): I am literally a mod for /r/Kappa
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On May 07 2015 05:17 AlterKot wrote:
I have a heart attack each time someone calls Melee an "esport".
I've heard that the FGC (and let's not get into the Smash-Isn't-A-Fighting-Game-argument) really dislikes "esports" while meanwhile t-sports are getting mad that esports have the word sport in them at all.
I'm not sure how much the classification matters though because in the end, it's all a highly competitive venture with extreme skill disparity between the top 1% and top 5% (everything fun and exciting seems to follow the power law distributions), tons of spectators, fan interaction, and enough money to keep people at it.
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On May 07 2015 05:09 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On May 07 2015 04:58 red_ wrote:
I really don't like SSBM at all, and think it's riding a pretty manufactured wave of hype. That's not to say the game isn't quality because I don't like it, but let's be real here, unless you followed it with purpose it wasn't even on the radar until 2013 with Evo and the Smash doc. Jump to today and it blows up twitter on any random weekend tournament as long as there's like a single god and some other top players present. If SSBM is indicative of anything it's not so much that accidental eSports happen, it's the opposite. There was a super niche competitive playerbase for the game for years and years and years(like BW), but it took outside forces with purpose to push it beyond that. While I acknowledge that Smash's popularity exploded after the doc, the core community in it is so strong because it survived for a decade+ despite Nintendo trying to squelch the competitive scene. As someone who has been off-and-on involved with the competitive side of the game since the early years, I don't think I would agree that it's a manufactured hype - there are a lot of things to love about Smash, and the community is a big piece of that. I'm still just amazed that an esport managed to survive without online play
Is it really? Rather small on the big scale. It's just like any other game people form competitions for really.
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On May 07 2015 05:22 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Man I'm not going compete with someone online for a free game. It's all sorts of messed up. At this point it's just silly >.>
And this is why it was never given to you.
You don't actually want it that badly.
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On May 07 2015 05:24 Eppa! wrote:Poll: Why did you start watching melee (started watching it again)?Smash Documentary (8) 36% Post Brawl darkage revival (5) 23% Never left (5) 23% I am literally a mod for /r/Kappa (4) 18% Evo hype! (0) 0% 22 total votes Your vote: Why did you start watching melee (started watching it again)? (Vote): Post Brawl darkage revival
(Vote): Smash Documentary
(Vote): Evo hype!
(Vote): Never left
(Vote): I am literally a mod for /r/Kappa
I didn't start caring again until evo, but I'm kinda glad people are still playing the game. At its super competitive the game is very niche, but with friends and just as a party game its stupid fun. Plus watching the competitive side just shows why the game can be hype.
Of all the games melee brings the most hype at evo for me, but that's because all of the focus on mvc3/sf4 is boring because those games are just dull to watch until grand finals.
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On May 07 2015 05:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:22 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Man I'm not going compete with someone online for a free game. It's all sorts of messed up. At this point it's just silly >.> And this is why it was never given to you. You don't actually want it that badly.
I do! It's just clear that Wave doesn't want to give it to me, and I have too much pride to just grovel towards people. I don't want to guilt him into giving it to me.
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On May 07 2015 05:25 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:09 killerdog wrote:On May 07 2015 05:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On May 07 2015 04:58 red_ wrote:
I really don't like SSBM at all, and think it's riding a pretty manufactured wave of hype. That's not to say the game isn't quality because I don't like it, but let's be real here, unless you followed it with purpose it wasn't even on the radar until 2013 with Evo and the Smash doc. Jump to today and it blows up twitter on any random weekend tournament as long as there's like a single god and some other top players present. If SSBM is indicative of anything it's not so much that accidental eSports happen, it's the opposite. There was a super niche competitive playerbase for the game for years and years and years(like BW), but it took outside forces with purpose to push it beyond that. While I acknowledge that Smash's popularity exploded after the doc, the core community in it is so strong because it survived for a decade+ despite Nintendo trying to squelch the competitive scene. As someone who has been off-and-on involved with the competitive side of the game since the early years, I don't think I would agree that it's a manufactured hype - there are a lot of things to love about Smash, and the community is a big piece of that. I'm still just amazed that an esport managed to survive without online play Is it really? Rather small on the big scale. It's just like any other game people form competitions for really.
What's "the big scale" ?
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idk what being a mod on r/kappa actually means but i assume it's "i think fighting games are garbage" so i voted it
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On May 07 2015 05:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:25 Numy wrote:On May 07 2015 05:09 killerdog wrote:On May 07 2015 05:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On May 07 2015 04:58 red_ wrote:
I really don't like SSBM at all, and think it's riding a pretty manufactured wave of hype. That's not to say the game isn't quality because I don't like it, but let's be real here, unless you followed it with purpose it wasn't even on the radar until 2013 with Evo and the Smash doc. Jump to today and it blows up twitter on any random weekend tournament as long as there's like a single god and some other top players present. If SSBM is indicative of anything it's not so much that accidental eSports happen, it's the opposite. There was a super niche competitive playerbase for the game for years and years and years(like BW), but it took outside forces with purpose to push it beyond that. While I acknowledge that Smash's popularity exploded after the doc, the core community in it is so strong because it survived for a decade+ despite Nintendo trying to squelch the competitive scene. As someone who has been off-and-on involved with the competitive side of the game since the early years, I don't think I would agree that it's a manufactured hype - there are a lot of things to love about Smash, and the community is a big piece of that. I'm still just amazed that an esport managed to survive without online play Is it really? Rather small on the big scale. It's just like any other game people form competitions for really. What's "the big scale" ?
Well globally like 200k watching English stream for LCS, 120k watching English dota 2 and 100k watching English CSGO. Smash is more like SC2 type numbers?
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On May 07 2015 05:32 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On May 07 2015 05:25 Numy wrote:On May 07 2015 05:09 killerdog wrote:On May 07 2015 05:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On May 07 2015 04:58 red_ wrote:
I really don't like SSBM at all, and think it's riding a pretty manufactured wave of hype. That's not to say the game isn't quality because I don't like it, but let's be real here, unless you followed it with purpose it wasn't even on the radar until 2013 with Evo and the Smash doc. Jump to today and it blows up twitter on any random weekend tournament as long as there's like a single god and some other top players present. If SSBM is indicative of anything it's not so much that accidental eSports happen, it's the opposite. There was a super niche competitive playerbase for the game for years and years and years(like BW), but it took outside forces with purpose to push it beyond that. While I acknowledge that Smash's popularity exploded after the doc, the core community in it is so strong because it survived for a decade+ despite Nintendo trying to squelch the competitive scene. As someone who has been off-and-on involved with the competitive side of the game since the early years, I don't think I would agree that it's a manufactured hype - there are a lot of things to love about Smash, and the community is a big piece of that. I'm still just amazed that an esport managed to survive without online play Is it really? Rather small on the big scale. It's just like any other game people form competitions for really. What's "the big scale" ? Well globally like 200k watching English stream for LCS, 120k watching English dota 2 and 100k watching English CSGO. Smash is more like SC2 type numbers?
Are you saying SC2 isn't an ESPORT? What a stupid comparison.
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On May 07 2015 05:25 Zess wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:17 AlterKot wrote:
I have a heart attack each time someone calls Melee an "esport". I've heard that the FGC (and let's not get into the Smash-Isn't-A-Fighting-Game-argument) really dislikes "esports" while meanwhile t-sports are getting mad that esports have the word sport in them at all. I'm not sure how much the classification matters though because in the end, it's all a highly competitive venture with extreme skill disparity between the top 1% and top 5% (everything fun and exciting seems to follow the power law distributions), tons of spectators, fan interaction, and enough money to keep people at it.
Yeah I'm not really a crusader who comes and says "THIS WORD IS STUPID YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR USING IT", but originating from FGC I just can't shake a certain distaste for it so after few pages I felt inclined to share how I feel :p
On May 07 2015 05:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
idk what being a mod on r/kappa actually means but i assume it's "i think fighting games are garbage" so i voted it
r/Kappa is a great subreddit that unfortunately fixated too hard on joking that smash is for autists and isn't a fighting game.
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On May 07 2015 05:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:32 Numy wrote:On May 07 2015 05:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On May 07 2015 05:25 Numy wrote:On May 07 2015 05:09 killerdog wrote:On May 07 2015 05:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On May 07 2015 04:58 red_ wrote:
I really don't like SSBM at all, and think it's riding a pretty manufactured wave of hype. That's not to say the game isn't quality because I don't like it, but let's be real here, unless you followed it with purpose it wasn't even on the radar until 2013 with Evo and the Smash doc. Jump to today and it blows up twitter on any random weekend tournament as long as there's like a single god and some other top players present. If SSBM is indicative of anything it's not so much that accidental eSports happen, it's the opposite. There was a super niche competitive playerbase for the game for years and years and years(like BW), but it took outside forces with purpose to push it beyond that. While I acknowledge that Smash's popularity exploded after the doc, the core community in it is so strong because it survived for a decade+ despite Nintendo trying to squelch the competitive scene. As someone who has been off-and-on involved with the competitive side of the game since the early years, I don't think I would agree that it's a manufactured hype - there are a lot of things to love about Smash, and the community is a big piece of that. I'm still just amazed that an esport managed to survive without online play Is it really? Rather small on the big scale. It's just like any other game people form competitions for really. What's "the big scale" ? Well globally like 200k watching English stream for LCS, 120k watching English dota 2 and 100k watching English CSGO. Smash is more like SC2 type numbers? Are you saying SC2 isn't an ESPORT? What a stupid comparison.
ded esport maybe
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On May 07 2015 05:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:32 Numy wrote:On May 07 2015 05:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On May 07 2015 05:25 Numy wrote:On May 07 2015 05:09 killerdog wrote:On May 07 2015 05:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On May 07 2015 04:58 red_ wrote:
I really don't like SSBM at all, and think it's riding a pretty manufactured wave of hype. That's not to say the game isn't quality because I don't like it, but let's be real here, unless you followed it with purpose it wasn't even on the radar until 2013 with Evo and the Smash doc. Jump to today and it blows up twitter on any random weekend tournament as long as there's like a single god and some other top players present. If SSBM is indicative of anything it's not so much that accidental eSports happen, it's the opposite. There was a super niche competitive playerbase for the game for years and years and years(like BW), but it took outside forces with purpose to push it beyond that. While I acknowledge that Smash's popularity exploded after the doc, the core community in it is so strong because it survived for a decade+ despite Nintendo trying to squelch the competitive scene. As someone who has been off-and-on involved with the competitive side of the game since the early years, I don't think I would agree that it's a manufactured hype - there are a lot of things to love about Smash, and the community is a big piece of that. I'm still just amazed that an esport managed to survive without online play Is it really? Rather small on the big scale. It's just like any other game people form competitions for really. What's "the big scale" ? Well globally like 200k watching English stream for LCS, 120k watching English dota 2 and 100k watching English CSGO. Smash is more like SC2 type numbers? Are you saying SC2 isn't an ESPORT? What a stupid comparison.
It's daed game.
Also happy birthday killerdog.
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On May 07 2015 05:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:32 Numy wrote:On May 07 2015 05:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On May 07 2015 05:25 Numy wrote:On May 07 2015 05:09 killerdog wrote:On May 07 2015 05:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On May 07 2015 04:58 red_ wrote:
I really don't like SSBM at all, and think it's riding a pretty manufactured wave of hype. That's not to say the game isn't quality because I don't like it, but let's be real here, unless you followed it with purpose it wasn't even on the radar until 2013 with Evo and the Smash doc. Jump to today and it blows up twitter on any random weekend tournament as long as there's like a single god and some other top players present. If SSBM is indicative of anything it's not so much that accidental eSports happen, it's the opposite. There was a super niche competitive playerbase for the game for years and years and years(like BW), but it took outside forces with purpose to push it beyond that. While I acknowledge that Smash's popularity exploded after the doc, the core community in it is so strong because it survived for a decade+ despite Nintendo trying to squelch the competitive scene. As someone who has been off-and-on involved with the competitive side of the game since the early years, I don't think I would agree that it's a manufactured hype - there are a lot of things to love about Smash, and the community is a big piece of that. I'm still just amazed that an esport managed to survive without online play Is it really? Rather small on the big scale. It's just like any other game people form competitions for really. What's "the big scale" ? Well globally like 200k watching English stream for LCS, 120k watching English dota 2 and 100k watching English CSGO. Smash is more like SC2 type numbers? Are you saying SC2 isn't an ESPORT? What a stupid comparison.
Maybe it was one day but these days hardly anyone gives a shit. You can make a competition out of anything. "ESPORTS" I think needs to be held to a higher standard? Idk I think the term itself is shitty but people like using it. Games like BF/Cod/etc have competitions but I don't think people really call them "esports"
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Has anyone here read the hunger games? I normally stay away from teen fiction, the only ones I've read being Harry Potter, and the Inheritance books, but this series is making me feel like a teenage schoolgirl actually caring about a love triangle. Very surprised how much I'm enjoying it, might even be in my top 5 books of all time.
Though it might just be because Peeta is a spitting image of myself, and I find myself asking what I would say in his situation, only to have him say something along the same lines.
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