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On October 08 2013 04:59 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 04:56 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I love reading, but I never read books for school. I just wanted to be entertained instead of being grilled on why the curtains were blue (spoiler - they're just fucking blue curtains, not the sorrow of man draped to cover the evils of outside influence).
I am generally in agreement with that popular statement (the curtains were fucking blue), but I think it's dangerous to assume that everything that isn't immediately obvious is meaningless, which happens often. in addition, that sentiment comes from teenagers' discontent with being forced to read literature in school, even though they are usually being forced to read solid classics where it's more likely than not that there -is- meaning in seemingly trivial minute details.
I agree. There are obviously circumstances where writers are really clever and provide some very deep, well written/hidden symbolism. I was being slightly hyperbolic.
I really should go back and read/reread some of the stuff we were assigned in school. I remember thinking Allegory of the Cave was very cool, but I was 14 and it largely went over my head.
Also there were some classics that I largely skipped over and only read enough to get through my quizzes/tests.
edit: ASMO PLS
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Get a light snack in Davy Byrne’s. Stopgap. Keep me going. Had a good breakfast. —Roast and mashed here. —Pint of stout. Every fellow for his own, tooth and nail. Gulp. Grub. Gulp. Gobstuff. He came out into clearer air and turned back towards Grafton street. Eat or be eaten. Kill! Kill!
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On October 08 2013 04:59 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 04:58 Slusher wrote:On October 08 2013 04:53 Vegetarian Wolf wrote: I think the main problem is that when you get taught your crash course through 101 different poem formats in school, the focus is just on broadly outlining traditional regulations as opposed to spending time on getting to the essence of what poetry is, which admittedly is a much more difficult topic, and one that is probably unsuitable for a random high school class. Shame, though, it contributes to people disliking/not caring for poetry :[ More Emily Dickinson's fault than anything else huh?
not meant to be deep, it's a cheap shot at a writer I especially did not like reading when I was in school.
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A lot of things went over my head when I was in high school, not just reading. @____@
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On October 08 2013 05:04 GhandiEAGLE wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 05:02 Zergneedsfood wrote:On October 08 2013 05:01 Requizen wrote: This thread sometimes. Let's all rejoice in the fact that at least we're not calling everyone racists.  Requizen is black though. Racist. What's good mah niggas?
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On October 08 2013 05:05 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 04:59 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:On October 08 2013 04:58 Slusher wrote:On October 08 2013 04:53 Vegetarian Wolf wrote: I think the main problem is that when you get taught your crash course through 101 different poem formats in school, the focus is just on broadly outlining traditional regulations as opposed to spending time on getting to the essence of what poetry is, which admittedly is a much more difficult topic, and one that is probably unsuitable for a random high school class. Shame, though, it contributes to people disliking/not caring for poetry :[ More Emily Dickinson's fault than anything else huh? not meant to be deep, it's a cheap shot at a writer I especially did not like reading when I was in school. reading is for chumps.
On October 08 2013 05:06 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 05:04 GhandiEAGLE wrote:On October 08 2013 05:02 Zergneedsfood wrote:On October 08 2013 05:01 Requizen wrote: This thread sometimes. Let's all rejoice in the fact that at least we're not calling everyone racists.  Requizen is black though. Racist. What's good mah niggas? Racist. We all know you're whiter than a flashbang.
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On October 08 2013 05:05 Zergneedsfood wrote: A lot of things went over my head when I was in high school, not just reading. @____@ Ah your school had ejaculate range competitions I presume?
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On October 08 2013 05:05 xes wrote:Get a light snack in Davy Byrne’s. Stopgap. Keep me going. Had a good breakfast. —Roast and mashed here. —Pint of stout. Every fellow for his own, tooth and nail. Gulp. Grub. Gulp. Gobstuff. He came out into clearer air and turned back towards Grafton street. Eat or be eaten. Kill! Kill! + Show Spoiler +
Joyce is good. More people should read Joyce, Dubliners if nothing else.
On October 08 2013 05:05 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 04:59 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:On October 08 2013 04:58 Slusher wrote:On October 08 2013 04:53 Vegetarian Wolf wrote: I think the main problem is that when you get taught your crash course through 101 different poem formats in school, the focus is just on broadly outlining traditional regulations as opposed to spending time on getting to the essence of what poetry is, which admittedly is a much more difficult topic, and one that is probably unsuitable for a random high school class. Shame, though, it contributes to people disliking/not caring for poetry :[ More Emily Dickinson's fault than anything else huh? not meant to be deep, it's a cheap shot at a writer I especially did not like reading when I was in school. \
I see. IDK I like Dickinson, I think she had fantastic diction, and I think her poems are really good to teach how some basic aspects of poetry work, so to speak, without needing to be confined to strict forms or meters, which is what most people think of when they think poetry.
On October 08 2013 05:06 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 05:05 Zergneedsfood wrote: A lot of things went over my head when I was in high school, not just reading. @____@ Ah your school had ejaculate range competitions I presume?
man that came from nowhere.
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On October 08 2013 05:06 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 05:05 Slusher wrote:On October 08 2013 04:59 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:On October 08 2013 04:58 Slusher wrote:On October 08 2013 04:53 Vegetarian Wolf wrote: I think the main problem is that when you get taught your crash course through 101 different poem formats in school, the focus is just on broadly outlining traditional regulations as opposed to spending time on getting to the essence of what poetry is, which admittedly is a much more difficult topic, and one that is probably unsuitable for a random high school class. Shame, though, it contributes to people disliking/not caring for poetry :[ More Emily Dickinson's fault than anything else huh? not meant to be deep, it's a cheap shot at a writer I especially did not like reading when I was in school. reading is for chumps.
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I never really took to poetry, but if I had to pick something I do like it would be Plath, addmittedly mostly because I like the Bell Jar.
my dad loves Frost, but it's just not my deal.
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Holy crap...
When I was younger, my mom would sometimes call me Shylock if I decided not to spend money on something. I always thought it was because I was being smart with my money.
She was calling me a Jew.
#suddenclarityclarence
related - I really liked Merchant of Venice, but disliked most other Shakespeare we were assigned.
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I like Chaucer because Canterbury Tales is very funny.
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On October 08 2013 05:10 jcarlsoniv wrote: Holy crap...
When I was younger, my mom would sometimes call my Shylock if I decided not to spend money on something. I always thought it was because I was being smart with my money.
She was calling me a Jew.
#suddenclarityclarence
related - I really liked Merchant of Venice, but disliked most other Shakespeare we were assigned.
See, literature is applicable to every day life! 
Fun fact: for a very long time, Shakespeare was considered trashy "pleb" literature that any ignoramus on the street could enjoy ^_^
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I liked Poe. Dunno, something about his imagery of despair and horror really clicked with me.
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On October 08 2013 05:11 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 05:10 jcarlsoniv wrote: Holy crap...
When I was younger, my mom would sometimes call my Shylock if I decided not to spend money on something. I always thought it was because I was being smart with my money.
She was calling me a Jew.
#suddenclarityclarence
related - I really liked Merchant of Venice, but disliked most other Shakespeare we were assigned. See, literature is applicable to every day life!  Fun fact: for a very long time, Shakespeare was considered trashy "pleb" literature that any ignoramus on the street could enjoy ^_^ Tangential - I LOVED the Shakespeare episode of Doctor Who. The plot was whatever, but the dialogue and banter was amazing.
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On October 08 2013 05:12 Requizen wrote: I liked Poe. Dunno, something about his imagery of despair and horror really clicked with me.
#SHOCKING
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On October 08 2013 05:13 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 05:11 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:On October 08 2013 05:10 jcarlsoniv wrote: Holy crap...
When I was younger, my mom would sometimes call my Shylock if I decided not to spend money on something. I always thought it was because I was being smart with my money.
She was calling me a Jew.
#suddenclarityclarence
related - I really liked Merchant of Venice, but disliked most other Shakespeare we were assigned. See, literature is applicable to every day life!  Fun fact: for a very long time, Shakespeare was considered trashy "pleb" literature that any ignoramus on the street could enjoy ^_^ Tangential - I LOVED the Shakespeare episode of Doctor Who. The plot was whatever, but the dialogue and banter was amazing.
I've never watched Doctor Who, maybe I should watch it. I'm a sucker for when they quote literature in movies/TV shows orz
On October 08 2013 05:12 Requizen wrote: I liked Poe. Dunno, something about his imagery of despair and horror really clicked with me.
Literature/poetry is so wide-ranging that it's very easy, I think, for everyone to find something (often lots of things) that connects with them, if they only looked.
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On October 08 2013 05:12 Requizen wrote: I liked Poe. Dunno, something about his imagery of despair and horror really clicked with me.
I love Poe. The Raven is one of my favorite poems.
Also, the Tell-Tale Heart. When my 6th grade teacher was reading it to us, it was a really stormy day out. As things were getting really tense, the classroom clock starting going insane and the hands were spinning wildly around it.
Was AWESOME
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So yesterday I was at a concert by an amateur orchestra. First was Dvorak's From A New World, they played it quite nicely. A part with cello-obligatto to violin melody enchanted me, and the oh so awesome french horn solo before the second to last finale... Then a professional pianist joined in for one of Rachmaninovs piano concertos. I found that it got much better when I closed my eyes. I also found out that I slumbered to, when the orchestra joined in for a crescendo...
In other news, I'm thinking about arranging twinkle twinkly little star for jazz orchestra. :D
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On October 08 2013 05:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 05:12 Requizen wrote: I liked Poe. Dunno, something about his imagery of despair and horror really clicked with me. I love Poe. The Raven is one of my favorite poems.
Tell Tale Heart > The Raven.
Also, I guess I was the Robot Master of page topping then soniv fucking Megaman'd me and stole my power. Only explanation.
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