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Vegetarian Wolf
Profile Joined May 2010
China434 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 20:37:07
October 07 2013 20:36 GMT
#4301
On October 08 2013 05:34 wei2coolman wrote:
All these recommended high school readings being mentioned, why you guys gotta bring back the terrifying memories.


I think this is very telling of the poor state of how literature (as well as everything in general...) is taught in school ~_~

These are, overwhelmingly, colossal works of immense importance and emotional impact that should be a pleasure to read, but are instead relegated to being labeled as dreary classics that are doled out as punishment to be suffered and not enjoyed
Awooo...
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 20:37:58
October 07 2013 20:37 GMT
#4302
To Kill a Mocking Bird and Gatsby are both pretty legit and required at pretty much every high school in the US
Carrilord has arrived.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 20:39:41
October 07 2013 20:39 GMT
#4303
On October 08 2013 05:35 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 05:34 wei2coolman wrote:
All these recommended high school readings being mentioned, why you guys gotta bring back the terrifying memories.

All I had was so much shakespeare during my English lessons, loved the great gatsby though.


This is one I need to go back and read. I didn't mind it, but I was kinda just going through the motions with it cuz school. (I actually really liked the movie, despite so many bad reviews) Also, my frisbee team with my friends is called The Gala.

Also need to go back for: Beowulf, On The Road (I actually read this one, but LOVED it), One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (again, read it, but need to reread), Farenheit 451, Catch 22, among many others I'm sure I'll think of.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 20:42:57
October 07 2013 20:39 GMT
#4304
you liked the 2013 movie????

I am addmittedly really bad about book movies (I hated Harry Potter) but for real I don't even know where to begin with 2013 Gatsby, I'll just say I was not a fan.
Carrilord has arrived.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 07 2013 20:40 GMT
#4305
On October 08 2013 05:36 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 05:34 wei2coolman wrote:
All these recommended high school readings being mentioned, why you guys gotta bring back the terrifying memories.


I think this is very telling of the poor state of how literature (as well as everything in general...) is taught in school ~_~

These are, overwhelmingly, colossal works of immense importance and emotional impact that should be a pleasure to read, but are instead relegated to being labeled as dreary classics that are doled out as punishment to be suffered and not enjoyed

Anything is more enjoyable when it's not required. I like programming more when I'm doing something I like, I can't stand working on projects assigned to me. Hell, I like doing math but it was a chore to do it at university.
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 07 2013 20:41 GMT
#4306
I did. I thought it was a really interesting take on an old style scenario mixed with modern themes (the music, mostly) to put it in perspective for the current youth generation.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 20:42:32
October 07 2013 20:42 GMT
#4307
On October 08 2013 05:40 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 05:36 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
On October 08 2013 05:34 wei2coolman wrote:
All these recommended high school readings being mentioned, why you guys gotta bring back the terrifying memories.


I think this is very telling of the poor state of how literature (as well as everything in general...) is taught in school ~_~

These are, overwhelmingly, colossal works of immense importance and emotional impact that should be a pleasure to read, but are instead relegated to being labeled as dreary classics that are doled out as punishment to be suffered and not enjoyed

Anything is more enjoyable when it's not required. I like programming more when I'm doing something I like, I can't stand working on projects assigned to me. Hell, I like doing math but it was a chore to do it at university.

I had that with history, I loved history so much I was reading my brother's history textbooks when he was doing GCSE for fun when I was much younger but then every history lesson I was just counting down the time.
And to be completely honest, my love for history was heavily influenced by things like age of empires
Glorious SEA doto
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 07 2013 20:43 GMT
#4308
I hate history when I'm forced to study it. I like it when I'm reading about facts and it's like "oh that's cool".

My favorite is battle and war history, especially Greek/Roman. Mythology is also awesome.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 20:48:32
October 07 2013 20:45 GMT
#4309
On October 08 2013 05:41 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I did. I thought it was a really interesting take on an old style scenario mixed with modern themes (the music, mostly) to put it in perspective for the current youth generation.


the amount of CG in the movie was off putting. Like there is nothing in that movie that even requires it[to be noticeable ofc you have the occasional touch ups in any movie] and they went balls to the walls with it.

The music was, eh, not a good movie, but if you look at what Sophia Coppela did with Marie Antoinette that is how I personally like modern themes applied to an old story.

Heavy opinion obviously.
Carrilord has arrived.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 07 2013 20:46 GMT
#4310
tl;dr - If I could get paid per article to read interesting facts on Wikipedia, I'd be the richest man in the WURLD
It's your boy Guzma!
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 07 2013 20:48 GMT
#4311
On October 08 2013 05:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
TIL - despite our shitposting exteriors, most of us are actually really cultured.

All of TL is asian what do you expect

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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 07 2013 20:50 GMT
#4312
On October 08 2013 05:45 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 05:41 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I did. I thought it was a really interesting take on an old style scenario mixed with modern themes (the music, mostly) to put it in perspective for the current youth generation.


the amount of CG in the movie was off putting. Like there is nothing in that movie that even requires it[to be noticeable ofc you have the occasional touch ups in any movie] and they went balls to the walls with it.

The music was, eh, not a good movie, but if you look at what Sophia Coppela did with Marie Antoinette that is how I personally like modern themes applied to an old story.

Heavy opinion obviously.


I totally get why people didn't like it. I'm honestly incredibly easy to please when it comes to movies.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 07 2013 20:50 GMT
#4313
On October 08 2013 05:46 Requizen wrote:
tl;dr - If I could get paid per article to read interesting facts on Wikipedia, I'd be the richest man in the WURLD

Pressing random on wikis is the greatest way to burn a breezy afternoon when ranked is down (As a European, see always).
Glorious SEA doto
Vegetarian Wolf
Profile Joined May 2010
China434 Posts
October 07 2013 20:51 GMT
#4314
On October 08 2013 05:48 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 05:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
TIL - despite our shitposting exteriors, most of us are actually really cultured.

All of TL is asian what do you expect



My lifelong dream is to become an old white man.
Awooo...
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 07 2013 20:52 GMT
#4315
On October 08 2013 05:46 Requizen wrote:
tl;dr - If I could get paid per article to read interesting facts on Wikipedia, I'd be the richest man in the WURLD

You should look into being a corporate strategy consultant
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 07 2013 21:00 GMT
#4316
On October 08 2013 05:50 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 05:46 Requizen wrote:
tl;dr - If I could get paid per article to read interesting facts on Wikipedia, I'd be the richest man in the WURLD

Pressing random on wikis is the greatest way to burn a breezy afternoon when ranked is down (As a European, see always).

how else would I ever know that there are 32 Duck Islands in the world, 31 of them being in the USA??!?!

shit's important
A backwards poet writes inverse.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 07 2013 21:05 GMT
#4317
On October 08 2013 05:36 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 05:34 wei2coolman wrote:
All these recommended high school readings being mentioned, why you guys gotta bring back the terrifying memories.


I think this is very telling of the poor state of how literature (as well as everything in general...) is taught in school ~_~

These are, overwhelmingly, colossal works of immense importance and emotional impact that should be a pleasure to read, but are instead relegated to being labeled as dreary classics that are doled out as punishment to be suffered and not enjoyed


Honestly, that is because they are really not that good. Shakespeare in particular is the #1 offender. They are PLAYS not books, so reading them makes no sense. If you want to teach Shakespeare before college you get the faculty to put on a play, or else its idiotic.

Secondly about him, it contains a lot of outdated social commentary that middle school/high school English teachers are unable to convey. Its like reading Dante's Inferno without being able to explain why a 15th century Pope is in Hell.

Finally, most of his works contain thematic elements that have been redone in much better ways. Star Wars IV-VI is a much more interesting and better done amalgamation of Hamlet + a love story. Disney has basically a movie for every one of his famous plays, and they are all better done with tighter, more relevant, writing, and even then who would want to have a class READ Beauty and the Beast? Just because something is first, doesn't make it the best. Most of those books should only be taught in upper level "History of Literature" courses. The problem is English is taught by the 5% of weirdos who actually liked that stuff in high school so they perpetuate the nonsense.
Freeeeeeedom
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9241 Posts
October 07 2013 21:08 GMT
#4318
On October 08 2013 05:39 Slusher wrote:
I am addmittedly really bad about book movies (I hated Harry Potter) but for real I don't even know where to begin with 2013 Gatsby, I'll just say I was not a fan.

I've seen loads of adaptations and Stalker is the only movie that was actually better or equal with the book it was based on, and it blew my mind because I watched it for the first time with 0 expectations just hours after finishing the book: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079944

Vegetarian Wolf
Profile Joined May 2010
China434 Posts
October 07 2013 21:08 GMT
#4319
On October 08 2013 06:05 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 05:36 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
On October 08 2013 05:34 wei2coolman wrote:
All these recommended high school readings being mentioned, why you guys gotta bring back the terrifying memories.


I think this is very telling of the poor state of how literature (as well as everything in general...) is taught in school ~_~

These are, overwhelmingly, colossal works of immense importance and emotional impact that should be a pleasure to read, but are instead relegated to being labeled as dreary classics that are doled out as punishment to be suffered and not enjoyed


Honestly, that is because they are really not that good. Shakespeare in particular is the #1 offender. They are PLAYS not books, so reading them makes no sense. If you want to teach Shakespeare before college you get the faculty to put on a play, or else its idiotic.

Secondly about him, it contains a lot of outdated social commentary that middle school/high school English teachers are unable to convey. Its like reading Dante's Inferno without being able to explain why a 15th century Pope is in Hell.

Finally, most of his works contain thematic elements that have been redone in much better ways. Star Wars IV-VI is a much more interesting and better done amalgamation of Hamlet + a love story. Disney has basically a movie for every one of his famous plays, and they are all better done with tighter, more relevant, writing, and even then who would want to have a class READ Beauty and the Beast? Just because something is first, doesn't make it the best. Most of those books should only be taught in upper level "History of Literature" courses. The problem is English is taught by the 5% of weirdos who actually liked that stuff in high school so they perpetuate the nonsense.


"If I don't like it it must be bad."
Awooo...
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 07 2013 21:09 GMT
#4320
I'm generally open minded about book-movies, but WWZ offended me so much that I don't even know if I will be able to stomach going to Ender's Game.
It's your boy Guzma!
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