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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 11 2014 07:26 GMT
#32701
what percentile is rank 12? i feel like i run into the same 30 people or so pretty consistently at this rank
also i was 9 earlier today but then i ran my rating into the ground
still haven't broken 9 but i'm getting so close! ramp druid is cool
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 11 2014 07:28 GMT
#32702
Fixing a problem on a site boiled down to having to delete records in a database that were causing conflicts. However, I did not have permissions to back up said database.

IT IS INCREDIBLY SCARY TO DELETE RECORDS ON A FUCKING LIVE SITE WITHOUT HAVING A BACKUP HANDY

ok I'll sleep now
It's your boy Guzma!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 11 2014 07:29 GMT
#32703
On April 11 2014 16:17 Cixah wrote:
I bet it still has tons of "Feels Good Man."


also, yes, i outplayed him pretty hard by playing around his hunter traps with my rag and clearing his creeps with my spells. i was p scared cause i was running my ramp druid deck into hunter and i didn't draw nourish or wild growth but he made some misplays with freezing trap and got unlucky by drawing leokk with his beast instead of huffer, otherwise it was over on turn 3 i think
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
April 11 2014 07:31 GMT
#32704
can you actually outplay people in hearthstone or is it a lot of rng?
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 07:36:08
April 11 2014 07:34 GMT
#32705
On April 11 2014 16:31 IMoperator wrote:
can you actually outplay people in hearthstone or is it a lot of rng?


Outplaying them often times is just correct predictions. While you can't have perfect information, you can correctly pick the cards in your opponent's hand by the board presence he tries to show. It's hard to do, but with practice becomes second nature.

On April 11 2014 16:26 gtrsrs wrote:
what percentile is rank 12? i feel like i run into the same 30 people or so pretty consistently at this rank
also i was 9 earlier today but then i ran my rating into the ground
still haven't broken 9 but i'm getting so close! ramp druid is cool


I don't know the numbers for sure, I'd prolly say top 5% of people who play though. My Roommate can't crack 15 unless I tell him exactly what to do.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 11 2014 07:37 GMT
#32706
no, it's pure RNG, that's why there are rankings and tournaments and sponsored players (JOKE)

yeah, there's 2 kinds of skill in HS, there's deck-building (which i'm terrible at) - making a deck that's balanced enough to beat a variety of opposing decks (or strong enough against the current meta to only have to beat 1 popular deck) - and then deck-playing (which i'm better at)

all you have to do in the latter is make decisions based on your hand and his (assumed) hand. the card draws are RNG yes but the way you play them is pure skill. i can beat my friends with either of us using any deck, but cixah could do the same to me
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 11 2014 07:45 GMT
#32707
There's a LOT of RNG involved though. Building decks so that you can play around that RNG and the decks you're going to face is huge---you have to essentially minimize the chance of RNG fucking you over.

Lost two arenas in a row just now...first game to a guy with 2x Equality/Consecrate combo, second one to the most insane fucking start I've ever seen.
He drops Sorcerer's Apprentice, I drop 2/2 doggy.
Next turn he kills it with a 0 mana cost missiles, then drops zero mana cost Mirror Image, and ANOTHER Sorcerer's apprentice. I have no Consecrate in my deck (they never even offered it to me, QQ)
I figured it was over already from that point, but I still kept going.
I dropped a 3/3 and then he drops a fucking Sea Giant. I think it was turn 3. Maybe turn 4.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 07:53:15
April 11 2014 07:49 GMT
#32708
also since i'm on a hearthstone roll right now, i'd like to bitch about alexstrasza
that battlecry is so brokenly op it drives me crazy. when i'm applying a ton of pressure he can play it to stall out my hand, and when i'm controlling the board he can play it to chunk me. it's too versatile. it's especially frustrating in that stall-forever warrior deck that is cropping up. armor armor armor armor armor, i'm just doing my thing, controlling the board, taking no damage, chunking down his armor, looks like i'm okay, i probably have an HP lead and the board is empty then BOOM alexstrasza and i'm at half HP. it's also a problem in the paladin version (heal forever to stall, then alexstrasza and tirion to finish) but less so because paladin kinda blows

that being said, she's next on my to-create list, and then I'M gonna be the terror playing that warrior deck >:D
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 07:53:18
April 11 2014 07:50 GMT
#32709
I still don't get complaining about RNG. It's a card game. It happens. You are innately CHANCING the game when you draw cards. RNG Happens. The best lose at Pro Tours SOME TIMES because they get flooded or starved of not only lands but some times spells or creatures. The whole point of deck building is to minimize this.

The RNG things I don't normally like in card games like the 50/50s, coin flips for effects, ect are actually very welcome for me in hearthstone. It brings an element of FUN to a series of games where normally I feel like I'm playing Vs Someone's Brain rather than a Person who's sitting across from me. I think HS has a chance at being competitive even with these effects, it's just a matter of people manning up and getting over the fact that Lady Luck isn't always on your side.

Guitar by proxy you are better than LS: @ggCMonteCristo breaks my HS streak of 20-0! T_T
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 11 2014 07:51 GMT
#32710
On April 11 2014 16:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
There's a LOT of RNG involved though. Building decks so that you can play around that RNG and the decks you're going to face is huge---you have to essentially minimize the chance of RNG fucking you over.

Lost two arenas in a row just now...first game to a guy with 2x Equality/Consecrate combo, second one to the most insane fucking start I've ever seen.
He drops Sorcerer's Apprentice, I drop 2/2 doggy.
Next turn he kills it with a 0 mana cost missiles, then drops zero mana cost Mirror Image, and ANOTHER Sorcerer's apprentice. I have no Consecrate in my deck (they never even offered it to me, QQ)
I figured it was over already from that point, but I still kept going.
I dropped a 3/3 and then he drops a fucking Sea Giant. I think it was turn 3. Maybe turn 4.


i don't really play arena because i don't like the format that you draft in. it's pretty tough for me to build a deck 1 card at a time when i can't see what the other cards are going to be

you win some you lose some, i will definitely say the RNG level is extremely high in arena
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 11 2014 07:55 GMT
#32711
lol, my twitter feed has been a stream for about 40m of the exact same tweet by 30239 different people: "OOOOOOH shots fired" in response to monte saying at least EG can beat CLG at something

...
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 11 2014 07:58 GMT
#32712
I don't mind the RNG...didn't mean to come across as me bitching about HS in general, just those couple games sucked ass.

On the plus side though I got 2 cards in the pack I SORELY needed, Brawl and SI:7. Leeroy is my next Legendary and then I actually might be able to make some real competitive decks!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 11 2014 08:00 GMT
#32713
On April 11 2014 16:55 gtrsrs wrote:
lol, my twitter feed has been a stream for about 40m of the exact same tweet by 30239 different people: "OOOOOOH shots fired" in response to monte saying at least EG can beat CLG at something

...

that twitter convo was pretty amusing.
liftlift > tsm
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 11 2014 08:02 GMT
#32714
On April 11 2014 16:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
I drop 2/2 doggy.


which card is this btw?
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
April 11 2014 08:03 GMT
#32715
On April 11 2014 17:02 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 16:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
I drop 2/2 doggy.


which card is this btw?


Wolf of magic +1/+0 Adjacent Powers.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 09:32:40
April 11 2014 09:31 GMT
#32716
On April 11 2014 09:22 Crusnik wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm salty, all the manga I'm reading are turning to shit, aside from Magician and ToG, and only ToG is on a weekly schedule :/ Naruto is going as close to becoming Dragon Ball as it can without invoking the Almighty Balls of the Dragon to revive the dead, Bleach is I don't even know, the newest Steinritter is the weirdest yet. OP is OK still I guess, this arc is almost over though, so that'll slow down shortly as well. Avoiding major spoilers is fucking hard btw, 3~ week warning-ish if you aren't caught up.

Knight Run is weird and confusing, second season just started so it's really disjointed right now. I'm up to the Chimera Ant arc in HxH re-read, and I don't really like this part, so I don't really want to continue reading it....

Why, oh, why can I not just jump into a future where not only Berserk is finished, but Akame ga KILL and Zero are finished...Maybe I'll actually just have to read Kill la Kill, Lessa, and Noblesse...

Does anyone have any must-read manga? I generally like Seinen/shounen that focus more on plot/drama and fights as opposed to slice of life and comedy, but at this point, I'm willing to break the mold.

Maybe I should just play more League or Dota...

WHY NOONE READS JOJO FFS

It's (very) kitsch at the beginning.
It's ongoing.
The plot is rarely deep, although the parts and villains have various themes and motives. Part 3 is basically "got 30 days to kill this guy" then a string of fights as they make their way to him.

BUT

The amount of references it incorporates is huge (try to find all th songs and artists included).
The amount of references it spawned might be even huger.
Shit like that and Hokuto no Ken are what spawned shounen as we know it, creating the recipes over reusing them and milking shit over an over.
It's in 8 different parts, which despite having ties can be read separately, so even if it's ongoing you've got milestones to stop at.
The fights are great, varied, and almost never straight-up beatdowns (well Polnareff is an exception but that's basically what his Stand is for).
The Stand concept is great, especially all the cave-ats making people vulnerable and the whole "locate the user/understand what his Stand does" in long-range fights (Aerosmith makes for really well paced battles, for example, Bad Company would have been excellent had we seen more of it).
The art is fabulous. And by this I mean FABULOUS.

On April 11 2014 12:56 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 12:52 Requizen wrote:
Hm, what manga do you think have remained good start to end?

Full Metal Alchemist!

...That's all I got.

Went to shit pure-shonen-y at the end. Which is made even sadder by how good it was up till then. T_T

On April 11 2014 12:10 Ketara wrote:
My favorite manga thing to do.

Read One Piece.

But don't actually read it.

Just look at the pictures and try to guess what is happening.

Do this for 40 chapters or so and you have your own magical storyline completely different from the actual events!

You mean Darths&Droids (or DM of the Rings but I find D&D even better)?

On April 11 2014 11:10 Requizen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Action manga, eh?

Top Picks: Trigun/Trigun Maximum, Negima/UQ Holder

Classics: Hellsing, Attack on Titan, Deadman Wonderland, Rurouni Kenshin, Chrono Crusade (not about the game), Soul Cartel, Akira, Psyren, Pokemon Adventures

A little more obscure but not really: Gantz, D Gray Man, Zetman, Medaka Box, Oh, My God!, God of High School

Not purely action but action-y and worth reading: FMA, Assassination Classroom, The Gamer, A Certain Magical Index, Full Metal Panic, Mirai Nikki, Angel Densetsu, Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer

Those are my usual suspects, off the top of my head. I really need to start keeping a list as these sorts of conversations seem to be getting more common. Lucifer and Biscuit Hammer may not be as action heavy as you'd like, but it's great on the character front.

Medaka Box is pretty bullshit when it comes to fights tho. The draw for me was in how meta that thing was, also at some points Kumagawa made me uneasy in his first mentions/apparitions, which happens rarely enough to be pointed out. I just embraced the bullshit and followed the meta till the culmination of the sealed gal's arc. It declined after, but with some moments of brilliance, and a weird (but in a kinda good way) ending.

Is the full metal panic manga decent? The anime (apart from fumoffu) was a piece of shit, like watching a Z-series american action movie with all the cliche present.

D Gray Man suffers from bieng on hiatus. It has some interesting stuff but what drew me at the start was the Akama concept and that got pushed to the side fairly quickly.

Shingeki no Kyojin (attack on titan) is past its half and still going strong, revealing its plot progressively and with a good ambiance/pacing (people criticise it for not bieng hecty and having entire chapters without action but I think it does it well).

Vinland Saga is nice, well-drawn, some interesting twists and ways to present the situations (although it was a bit surprising at first, I liked the overall direction of the farmland saga arc, and it was refreshing to see a "What's a true warrior?" theme not end up as "I only use my strength to defend my friends; I'm still the biggest munchkin around though"). However it's ongoing, monthly, and still seems like it's in first half, if not quarter.

Kingdom is great. The plot and characters aren't necessarily deep, it's definitely a shounen, but the characters are so over the top and every single officer reeks of HAM so it makes for great moments and "manly man" confrontations. At the same time, the fact that it uses the fight/shounen aspects to detail events of the big picture, with accounts and how things unfold (and various time skips to only focus on the important happenings) makes it nicer to read than some mindless action/fight manga. Plus he's following History so you know there's already a set scenario and it won't go on forever.

Gantz became shit way too early (compared to its whole length) to be worth looking at imo. In the end it only makes the start look lurid.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 11 2014 09:38 GMT
#32717
On April 11 2014 16:31 IMoperator wrote:
can you actually outplay people in hearthstone or is it a lot of rng?


can you actually outplay people in poker or is it a lot of rng?
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 09:42:08
April 11 2014 09:41 GMT
#32718
On April 11 2014 18:38 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 16:31 IMoperator wrote:
can you actually outplay people in hearthstone or is it a lot of rng?


can you actually outplay people in poker or is it a lot of rng?

Cant compare a constantly meta-changing(with nerfs & buffs) MTG with a standard card game with the same stagnant rules/strategies/card variances for the last however many years.
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 11 2014 09:43 GMT
#32719
why not?
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 11 2014 09:46 GMT
#32720
On April 11 2014 18:43 Slayer91 wrote:
why not?

For one, in Hearthstone you create a deck of 30 out of a pool of several hundred cards with different abilites/stats to defeat another player who is also doing the same. In poker, you just pray to the RNG gods your hand is better than theirs or try to bluff your way to victory.
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