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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 22:04:17
February 20 2014 21:53 GMT
#24441
On February 21 2014 04:58 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Somebody tell me it's a terrible idea to max out Freelancer, Monk, and White Mage before the end of the intro.

Because my RPG-obsessions are compelling me.

The average JP gain per battle scales somewhat in proportion with the JP required for level-up, which keeps you in a realistic range. Basically you can get like 5 JP per battle in the Prologue, 10-15 in Chapter 1, ~30 in Chapter 2, ~50-70 in Chapter 3, ~200-300 in Chapter 4, after which JP gains level off.

The big jump in JP required is that going from 8->9 requires 800 JP, while going from 9->10 requires 3500, which essentially means you have to be insane to go higher than job level 9 before chapter 4. This corresponds with the rate the game expects you to progress--you're provided with each level of magic at about the time you're expected to get the class to the level to use it.

To put this in more straightforward numbers, maxing out Freelancer in the Prologue would take ~5800 battles, and everything else would take ~4800, so maxing out all 5 classes you get in the Prologue would take ~25000 battles.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 20 2014 21:56 GMT
#24442
On February 21 2014 06:42 MoonBear wrote:
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On February 20 2014 09:44 Requizen wrote:
A bit of a progress report. The Ankazed Dynasty grows closer to completion with this Annihilation Barge!

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C&C welcome, of course.

Damn. Really clean paint job. Maybe it's the lighting, the main thing I notice here is that you're using a matte black foundation with a faded silver scheme which means the overall paint job is very plain. The individual components and features all seem to blur into each other when you're looking at it. I think there's scope to additional highlights to accentuate stuff (such as the indents between the segments on the crescent frame of the body, or a lighter blue neon glow on the power cables). A really thin gold trim on the corner edge thing of the crescent would look good too and help break up the shape of the ship. Would be good things to focus on for the next layer of paint.

A minor note as well: the blue base layer on the power cable doesn't go all the way to the base which might be awkward after you apply the second highlight layer?

Yeah, the black base really calls for some edge highlighting I think, but I'm not sure what to do with it. I could do a dark grey or a deep blue, which will make the edges pop a bit more but still be a bit downplayed. Or I could go with a silver edging, which would give very sharp edging.

The other option, like you said, is to paint the indents a different color. White in the recessed portions would give a strong contrasting look, but I fear it would take away from the sleek look I tried to go with. The dark blue is another option as well.

The cables are actually kinda hard to see in the picture. They're actually a very dark blue base on the cables with the blue you can see as a highlight. I could do another layer of even lighter blue, but I don't know how that'd look.


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On February 21 2014 03:38 Requizen wrote:
Did they mention what they're planning on running? I've got a handful of resources that I've collected recently: rumor mills, tactica, painting guides, etc. In particular, Orks and IG are supposed to be getting updates, while Adeptus Mechanicus are rumored to be either becoming an Imperial supplement like the Inquisition or become a new army of their own, possibly alongside the Imperial Knights.

Wait wait, what? Mechs and Knights? Oh my god. I... I need this. Are they bringing back the Jetbike? The Ravenwing Jetbike is cool and all that, but there's so much more it could be.

Unsure about the Jetbike, the AdMech codex is a rumor at this point, nothing in the near future. The Knights are going to be featured in next month's White Dwarf, the types confirmed so far being Knight Errant, Knight Paladin, and Knight Lancer. They can be fielded as their own force (lol) or as an allied detachment to any Imperial force. Gonna be really cool seeing these things fighting a Wraithknight or Bio-Titan.

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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 20 2014 22:05 GMT
#24443
On February 21 2014 06:53 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 04:58 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Somebody tell me it's a terrible idea to max out Freelancer, Monk, and White Mage before the end of the intro.

Because my RPG-obsessions are compelling me.

The average JP gain per battle scales somewhat in proportion with the JP required for level-up, which keeps you in a realistic range. Basically you can get like 5 JP per battle in the Prologue, 10-15 in Chapter 1, ~30 in Chapter 2, ~50-70 in Chapter 3, ~200-300 in Chapter 4, after which JP gains level off.

The big jump in JP required is that going from 8->9 requires 800 JP, while going from 9->10 requires 3500, which essentially means you have to be insane to go higher than job level 9 before chapter 4. This corresponds with the rate the game expects you to progress--you're provided with each level of magic at about the time you're expected to get the class to the level to use it.

To put this in more straightforward numbers, maxing out Freelancer in the Prologue would take ~5800 battles, and everything else would take ~4800, so maxing out all 5 classes you get in the Prologue would take ~25000 battles.

So you're saying he should go for it...?

RIP Asmo.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
February 20 2014 22:07 GMT
#24444
On February 21 2014 06:56 Requizen wrote:
Yeah, the black base really calls for some edge highlighting I think, but I'm not sure what to do with it. I could do a dark grey or a deep blue, which will make the edges pop a bit more but still be a bit downplayed. Or I could go with a silver edging, which would give very sharp edging.

The other option, like you said, is to paint the indents a different color. White in the recessed portions would give a strong contrasting look, but I fear it would take away from the sleek look I tried to go with. The dark blue is another option as well.

The cables are actually kinda hard to see in the picture. They're actually a very dark blue base on the cables with the blue you can see as a highlight. I could do another layer of even lighter blue, but I don't know how that'd look.

If you're not that into the strong contract, then how about a theoretical light source would diffuse on the model and then dark grey edging with lighter grey highlight in select areas? That would avoid the need for silver edging or painting the recessed areas.

For the cables, you could add a light blue/snow highlight so it looks like there's energy pulsing through the cable? Alternatively, you could make it look like the cable is pleated/banded sort of like the effect in these Cygnar warjacks/infantry.

On February 21 2014 06:56 Requizen wrote:
Unsure about the Jetbike, the AdMech codex is a rumor at this point, nothing in the near future. The Knights are going to be featured in next month's White Dwarf, the types confirmed so far being Knight Errant, Knight Paladin, and Knight Lancer. They can be fielded as their own force (lol) or as an allied detachment to any Imperial force. Gonna be really cool seeing these things fighting a Wraithknight or Bio-Titan.

Huh. Kind boxy and makes sense. But don't think they'd fit with Elysian or Deatth Corp of Krieg models that well though.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
February 20 2014 22:10 GMT
#24445
On February 21 2014 07:05 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 06:53 TheYango wrote:
On February 21 2014 04:58 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Somebody tell me it's a terrible idea to max out Freelancer, Monk, and White Mage before the end of the intro.

Because my RPG-obsessions are compelling me.

The average JP gain per battle scales somewhat in proportion with the JP required for level-up, which keeps you in a realistic range. Basically you can get like 5 JP per battle in the Prologue, 10-15 in Chapter 1, ~30 in Chapter 2, ~50-70 in Chapter 3, ~200-300 in Chapter 4, after which JP gains level off.

The big jump in JP required is that going from 8->9 requires 800 JP, while going from 9->10 requires 3500, which essentially means you have to be insane to go higher than job level 9 before chapter 4. This corresponds with the rate the game expects you to progress--you're provided with each level of magic at about the time you're expected to get the class to the level to use it.

To put this in more straightforward numbers, maxing out Freelancer in the Prologue would take ~5800 battles, and everything else would take ~4800, so maxing out all 5 classes you get in the Prologue would take ~25000 battles.

So you're saying he should go for it...?

RIP Asmo.

If you want to grind, go for Job Level 3-4 Chapter 1, Level 7-11 Chapter 2, then 14 Chapter 3. Anything more is just really masochistic (and you won't even be able to use a lot of the levels properly anyway e.g. you can't buy level 2 White Magic until Chapter 2 even if you have the level to use it)
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 22:20:09
February 20 2014 22:10 GMT
#24446
If I have 5000+ dust, and I want to make Mukla, should I make Mukla or golden Mukla?

edit: Does golden Mukla give golden bananas?
Jaedong :3
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
February 20 2014 22:13 GMT
#24447
On February 21 2014 07:10 ReketSomething wrote:
If I have 5000+ dust, and I want to make Mukla, should I make Mukla or golden Mukla?

YOLO
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 20 2014 22:17 GMT
#24448
On February 21 2014 07:10 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 07:05 onlywonderboy wrote:
On February 21 2014 06:53 TheYango wrote:
On February 21 2014 04:58 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Somebody tell me it's a terrible idea to max out Freelancer, Monk, and White Mage before the end of the intro.

Because my RPG-obsessions are compelling me.

The average JP gain per battle scales somewhat in proportion with the JP required for level-up, which keeps you in a realistic range. Basically you can get like 5 JP per battle in the Prologue, 10-15 in Chapter 1, ~30 in Chapter 2, ~50-70 in Chapter 3, ~200-300 in Chapter 4, after which JP gains level off.

The big jump in JP required is that going from 8->9 requires 800 JP, while going from 9->10 requires 3500, which essentially means you have to be insane to go higher than job level 9 before chapter 4. This corresponds with the rate the game expects you to progress--you're provided with each level of magic at about the time you're expected to get the class to the level to use it.

To put this in more straightforward numbers, maxing out Freelancer in the Prologue would take ~5800 battles, and everything else would take ~4800, so maxing out all 5 classes you get in the Prologue would take ~25000 battles.

So you're saying he should go for it...?

RIP Asmo.

If you want to grind, go for Job Level 3-4 Chapter 1, Level 7-11 Chapter 2, then 14 Chapter 3. Anything more is just really masochistic (and you won't even be able to use a lot of the levels properly anyway e.g. you can't buy level 2 White Magic until Chapter 2 even if you have the level to use it)

I still think you're crazy for getting level 14 anything before Chapter 4.
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
February 20 2014 22:25 GMT
#24449
On February 21 2014 07:10 ReketSomething wrote:
If I have 5000+ dust, and I want to make Mukla, should I make Mukla or golden Mukla?

edit: Does golden Mukla give golden bananas?


Seems quite likely to give Golden Bananas (ooooooh, ba na na), given how that gold Thoughtsteal and Mind Vision give gold cards.
I am the Town Medic.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
February 20 2014 22:29 GMT
#24450
So why would I pay extra dust to make 1 golden card when my opponent gets 2 golden cards in return? fk dat
Jaedong :3
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
February 20 2014 22:46 GMT
#24451
On February 21 2014 07:29 ReketSomething wrote:
So why would I pay extra dust to make 1 golden card when my opponent gets 2 golden cards in return? fk dat

The reason you pimp a deck is because of the intimidation factor. Are you more scared of the guy that plays Jace the Wallet Sculptor, or the guy who just tapped his Alpha Duals to play the Foil Jace?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 20 2014 22:51 GMT
#24452
On February 21 2014 07:46 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 07:29 ReketSomething wrote:
So why would I pay extra dust to make 1 golden card when my opponent gets 2 golden cards in return? fk dat

The reason you pimp a deck is because of the intimidation factor. Are you more scared of the guy that plays Jace the Wallet Sculptor, or the guy who just tapped his Alpha Duals to play the Foil Jace?

Hm yes I know some of these words.
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 20 2014 22:52 GMT
#24453
I'd be scared of the guy who never bought his gold cards and got them all from packs because RNG is clearly on that guy's side.
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
February 20 2014 23:10 GMT
#24454
Foil Goyfs are worth more to me than Wallet Sculptors.

Hell, Wilder Necatls are worth more to me than Wallet Sculptors. (WIlder necatle is the German Wild Necatl).
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
February 20 2014 23:17 GMT
#24455
On February 21 2014 08:10 Cixah wrote:
Foil Goyfs are worth more to me than Wallet Sculptors.

Hell, Wilder Necatls are worth more to me than Wallet Sculptors. (WIlder necatle is the German Wild Necatl).

Will you trade me a Foil Waller Sculptor for my playset of Nacatls though?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 20 2014 23:21 GMT
#24456
On February 21 2014 08:17 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 08:10 Cixah wrote:
Foil Goyfs are worth more to me than Wallet Sculptors.

Hell, Wilder Necatls are worth more to me than Wallet Sculptors. (WIlder necatle is the German Wild Necatl).

Will you trade me a Foil Waller Sculptor for my playset of Nacatls though?


I have a shiny Machoke I could trade.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 20 2014 23:25 GMT
#24457
shiny Vileplume

suck it
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
February 20 2014 23:27 GMT
#24458
On February 21 2014 08:17 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 08:10 Cixah wrote:
Foil Goyfs are worth more to me than Wallet Sculptors.

Hell, Wilder Necatls are worth more to me than Wallet Sculptors. (WIlder necatle is the German Wild Necatl).

Will you trade me a Foil Waller Sculptor for my playset of Nacatls though?


Are they German?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 23:30:59
February 20 2014 23:30 GMT
#24459
This match is for all the marbles

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Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 20 2014 23:34 GMT
#24460
Out of curiosity, would anyone care to watch KH 1.5, Uncharted, TLoU, or Dark Souls streams? I've played Dark Souls before, beating most of the game, only the second DLC boss gives me trouble, but I haven't fought the other two yet really.

Would be starting from scratch since I just picked up a PS3 today and am setting it up currently.
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