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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
September 14 2013 07:18 GMT
#1661
On September 14 2013 14:44 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 14:07 kainzero wrote:
On September 14 2013 13:20 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On September 14 2013 12:59 kainzero wrote:
how i lose 5v3


i dunno

AVAST YE HEARTIES

how i lose 5v3

i still dunno


(and no replay wahhh)

and then how we lose game to storrzerg

argghghhhhhhhhhh


Storrzerg confirmed fun killer.

Swaglord Tokin.

Ehm. I think you mean

XxXY0L0SWAGL0RDT0LKIEN420N0SC0PEMLG360DUBSTEPXxX
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
September 14 2013 07:31 GMT
#1662
what
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 14 2013 07:39 GMT
#1663
thank you swaglord tokin
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 14 2013 07:43 GMT
#1664
Swaglord Tokin for President.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 14 2013 08:50 GMT
#1665
[image loading]

i'm sorry
i need more confidence in my tidal waves
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-14 09:02:08
September 14 2013 09:01 GMT
#1666
FakeSteve -FKIN J BRUNDIG 2013

So worth so worth
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 14 2013 10:10 GMT
#1667
Okay so I just watched replay. I don't think I held on to tidal as long as was implied by my team.

The first missed tidal wave is at 9:30. I think we could've secured at least one kill then retreated from Katarina. I was trying to look for the perfect Tidal to catch two and I didn't find it, then Kat came down and that was that.

Second one is maybe 15:50. I think we could've got Blitz, but at the same time, we didn't have vision on Zyra or Cait.

At 19:30 we could've taken that fight. Forgot that we killed Kat so it was an easy 5v4. Even though I took a lot of damage I still had tidal, but the call was made to back off.

At 21:10 I went for a bubble to tidal and I missed bubble. Maybe tidal would've been a better move.

At 24:01 I heard dive so I circled around back. I think we should've dove that one. Maybe you guys didn't see me.

At 24:45, maybe I could've gotten a tidal on Kat, but getting a tidal on Kat is a hard proposition when she has shunpo and one of the main reasons I didn't fire it off at her.

25:25 was a possible tidal but I felt very dicey on diving tier 3 with tier 2 still up.

25:53 is me being dumb.

28:20 is a real awkward fight where FakeSteve was caught in a bad position and I didn't know where to go or how to angle the wave.

34:24 I was trying to ambush Kat with an EQ combo but Dusty's Rupture came out and Kat dodged it. I suppose I could've done Tidal Wave but I felt that I could lure Cait with the EQ first, or at least Shunpo before Tidal.

40:25 Steve gets pulled. I thought it was nutty at first but watching replay it's just an easy grab. Opportunity to initiate is gone at this point.

43:04 Steve gets pulled, Round 2.

43:33 I heard the order to retreat so I back up. I see Dusty porting back so I'm not sure to Tidal Wave because I don't know if we're fighting when they catch Riven, 4v5 is no fun. I use Shurelya's but it's not good enough. I get scolded for not helping, then we lose 3v5.




I don't think I did as bad as the feedback I was getting. I thought I threw the game multiple times because I didn't initiate. At the end of the game there were lots of "Well we should've done that earlier," but when I check the replay there were a lot of times where people would get picked off and the opportunity to teamfight was gone.

http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/3476079/
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 14 2013 11:20 GMT
#1668
i think i had more to do with it taking so long to finish than you did lol
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 14 2013 16:50 GMT
#1669
Well, I did say I would take one for the team for you...
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
September 14 2013 17:42 GMT
#1670
Sorry if we were giving you a hard time. It's always just more frustrating at the exact moment when we're all sitting there dead and looking at which things we could have done better, especially the longer the game goes. I hope it didn't sound like I was placing all the blame on you, because that's far from true, and everyone made mistakes. I know my getting caught near the end was pretty retarded. It's just that it felt like a game we could have won within 20 minutes if we could have just forced fights. Your ult + eve flank was just about the only decent initiate we had, and we were really relying on you. The fact that the game started late, dragged out to 45 minutes (plus the 20 minute pause -_-) just got really annoying and frustrating, so outbursts were bound to happen. But those are not objective analyses of your play, so don't take it too seriously. Overall, you did fine, but having more confidence in your abilities is always good.
Writer:o
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
September 14 2013 18:14 GMT
#1671
I have sold Neo.
God Bless
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
September 14 2013 18:18 GMT
#1672
Roffles4president
Bronze player stuck in platinum
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 14 2013 18:50 GMT
#1673
On September 15 2013 02:42 Kiett wrote:
Sorry if we were giving you a hard time. It's always just more frustrating at the exact moment when we're all sitting there dead and looking at which things we could have done better, especially the longer the game goes. I hope it didn't sound like I was placing all the blame on you, because that's far from true, and everyone made mistakes. I know my getting caught near the end was pretty retarded. It's just that it felt like a game we could have won within 20 minutes if we could have just forced fights. Your ult + eve flank was just about the only decent initiate we had, and we were really relying on you. The fact that the game started late, dragged out to 45 minutes (plus the 20 minute pause -_-) just got really annoying and frustrating, so outbursts were bound to happen. But those are not objective analyses of your play, so don't take it too seriously. Overall, you did fine, but having more confidence in your abilities is always good.

For me the concern was that I would start second guessing myself in the middle of the game and throw a bad tidal wave (which did happen in some of my earlier Nami games).

I also don't like arguing during a game so I defer to the higher ranked players. After the game is a different story when I can objectively look at things.

I'm not really offended or mad or whatever, just trying to get better and think about the advice given to me.

Also I don't like losing to StorrZerg, lol
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-14 18:56:06
September 14 2013 18:55 GMT
#1674
On September 15 2013 03:14 Roffles wrote:
I have sold Neo.

How much did you sell him for?

@kainzero: no one likes losing to Storr. :^)
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 14 2013 19:11 GMT
#1675
So I've only played like one of these games but I have to thank you all for bringing up jungle leona.

After reading this thread yesterday I played her against bots, bought her and played 5 normals and then played 3 ranked yesterday and 1 today. I'm 10-0. Thanks for the freelo guys.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
September 14 2013 19:22 GMT
#1676
ROFFLES FOR PRESIDENT PLEASE
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
September 14 2013 19:41 GMT
#1677
I mean jungle Leona isn't that different from Nautilus, right? High cc/utility, low damage, builds tank/cdr/support items
*flame shield on*
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 14 2013 19:46 GMT
#1678
Well, to be fair, I never saw a jungle Nautilus get a 14 minute triforce...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 14 2013 19:57 GMT
#1679
On September 15 2013 04:41 Flakes wrote:
I mean jungle Leona isn't that different from Nautilus, right? High cc/utility, low damage, builds tank/cdr/support items
*flame shield on*

triforce leona can actually dish it out pretty well, and if you add zekes on top of that it's really not that bad given the amount of hard cc and tankyness she also brings.

Not that I know anything, I'm B1 and jungle leona works because her ult is like a massive homing beacon to show your otherwise uncoordinated team where to focus, hit the enemy carry -> gg.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-14 20:29:57
September 14 2013 20:29 GMT
#1680
On September 15 2013 03:50 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 02:42 Kiett wrote:
Sorry if we were giving you a hard time. It's always just more frustrating at the exact moment when we're all sitting there dead and looking at which things we could have done better, especially the longer the game goes. I hope it didn't sound like I was placing all the blame on you, because that's far from true, and everyone made mistakes. I know my getting caught near the end was pretty retarded. It's just that it felt like a game we could have won within 20 minutes if we could have just forced fights. Your ult + eve flank was just about the only decent initiate we had, and we were really relying on you. The fact that the game started late, dragged out to 45 minutes (plus the 20 minute pause -_-) just got really annoying and frustrating, so outbursts were bound to happen. But those are not objective analyses of your play, so don't take it too seriously. Overall, you did fine, but having more confidence in your abilities is always good.

For me the concern was that I would start second guessing myself in the middle of the game and throw a bad tidal wave (which did happen in some of my earlier Nami games).

I also don't like arguing during a game so I defer to the higher ranked players. After the game is a different story when I can objectively look at things.

I'm not really offended or mad or whatever, just trying to get better and think about the advice given to me.

Also I don't like losing to StorrZerg, lol



I think a lot of the ult requests were Dusty noticing fights we could take that players of lesser caliber like myself don't really notice. Overall, I think it's less about worrying about bad Nami ults and instead looking for places you can use it to make plays. Personally I actually suck with them myself because I'm more used to using it as a counter initiating tool but I thought the last nami ult catching Zyra and Katarina was definitely the game closer we were looking for. Don't take it too personally imo, I don't think anyone was actually saying you were "throwing".
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