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On January 17 2019 06:42 M2 wrote:
Getting autofilled as bot or support makes you realize why bot lanes are constantly going 0/15 game after game. Most of the people who play bot lane (both roles) are like whole tier behind in terms of game knowledge and probably natural intelligence regarding games. The only thing that keeps them in the same elo as the rest is because the enemy bot lanes are as dumb as them. This is not even a QQ, just an observation, its like so easy to shit on them as offrole is not even funny.
What did you expect? We have PTSD from being 4-5 man ganked every second minute for years.
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Exactly, truth is as an AD it feels you have little playmaking ability because the fight comes to you. It's more of a 'do the best you can in the situation' in the role, flawless execution is expected. No need to pay attention to the minimap because you'll probably die anyway if you see the jungler  .
Its very easy to see an off role support in the bot lane, they either don't do anything or try to force too many plays. Sounds like you haven't faced any good junglers yet.
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On January 17 2019 07:25 Jek wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2019 06:42 M2 wrote:
Getting autofilled as bot or support makes you realize why bot lanes are constantly going 0/15 game after game. Most of the people who play bot lane (both roles) are like whole tier behind in terms of game knowledge and probably natural intelligence regarding games. The only thing that keeps them in the same elo as the rest is because the enemy bot lanes are as dumb as them. This is not even a QQ, just an observation, its like so easy to shit on them as offrole is not even funny. What did you expect? We have PTSD from being 4-5 man ganked every second minute for years.
Yes, actually one would think that after years and years of 3-4-5 men abuse, bot laners will put some thought when to engage and when to play safe, especially since they have a person there whos 50% of the job is to follow the map movements. Well you are for a big surprise or should I say disappointment if you expect something like this down there xDDDD
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On January 17 2019 09:52 M2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2019 07:25 Jek wrote:On January 17 2019 06:42 M2 wrote:
Getting autofilled as bot or support makes you realize why bot lanes are constantly going 0/15 game after game. Most of the people who play bot lane (both roles) are like whole tier behind in terms of game knowledge and probably natural intelligence regarding games. The only thing that keeps them in the same elo as the rest is because the enemy bot lanes are as dumb as them. This is not even a QQ, just an observation, its like so easy to shit on them as offrole is not even funny. What did you expect? We have PTSD from being 4-5 man ganked every second minute for years. Yes, actually one would think that after years and years of 3-4-5 men abuse, bot laners will put some thought when to engage and when to play safe, especially since they have a person there whos 50% of the job is to follow the map movements. Well you are for a big surprise or should I say disappointment if you expect something like this down there xDDDD
it's a straight up fact that support mains until the highest divisions are worse players than their teammates. Bot lane (ad/supp) is the most autofilled role, meaning you're more likely to get at least one idiot who has no fucking idea what they're doing and if you're super unlucky, you've got two.
As far as ADC goes, pretty much if your supp is an animal there's nothing you can do. You just get ass blasted unless their supp is also an animal. For support, your ADC being an animal sucks, but you've got 3 other players to play for so you can just let him go 0/10 and support mid or your jungler so at least there's some agency there.
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On January 17 2019 13:18 AdsMoFro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2019 09:52 M2 wrote:On January 17 2019 07:25 Jek wrote:On January 17 2019 06:42 M2 wrote:
Getting autofilled as bot or support makes you realize why bot lanes are constantly going 0/15 game after game. Most of the people who play bot lane (both roles) are like whole tier behind in terms of game knowledge and probably natural intelligence regarding games. The only thing that keeps them in the same elo as the rest is because the enemy bot lanes are as dumb as them. This is not even a QQ, just an observation, its like so easy to shit on them as offrole is not even funny. What did you expect? We have PTSD from being 4-5 man ganked every second minute for years. Yes, actually one would think that after years and years of 3-4-5 men abuse, bot laners will put some thought when to engage and when to play safe, especially since they have a person there whos 50% of the job is to follow the map movements. Well you are for a big surprise or should I say disappointment if you expect something like this down there xDDDD it's a straight up fact that support mains until the highest divisions are worse players than their teammates. Bot lane (ad/supp) is the most autofilled role, meaning you're more likely to get at least one idiot who has no fucking idea what they're doing and if you're super unlucky, you've got two. As far as ADC goes, pretty much if your supp is an animal there's nothing you can do. You just get ass blasted unless their supp is also an animal. For support, your ADC being an animal sucks, but you've got 3 other players to play for so you can just let him go 0/10 and support mid or your jungler so at least there's some agency there.
It's a tough job being a parent, we babysit you guys through an entire game and this is what we get. :'(
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On January 18 2019 06:52 Jek wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2019 13:18 AdsMoFro wrote:On January 17 2019 09:52 M2 wrote:On January 17 2019 07:25 Jek wrote:On January 17 2019 06:42 M2 wrote:
Getting autofilled as bot or support makes you realize why bot lanes are constantly going 0/15 game after game. Most of the people who play bot lane (both roles) are like whole tier behind in terms of game knowledge and probably natural intelligence regarding games. The only thing that keeps them in the same elo as the rest is because the enemy bot lanes are as dumb as them. This is not even a QQ, just an observation, its like so easy to shit on them as offrole is not even funny. What did you expect? We have PTSD from being 4-5 man ganked every second minute for years. Yes, actually one would think that after years and years of 3-4-5 men abuse, bot laners will put some thought when to engage and when to play safe, especially since they have a person there whos 50% of the job is to follow the map movements. Well you are for a big surprise or should I say disappointment if you expect something like this down there xDDDD it's a straight up fact that support mains until the highest divisions are worse players than their teammates. Bot lane (ad/supp) is the most autofilled role, meaning you're more likely to get at least one idiot who has no fucking idea what they're doing and if you're super unlucky, you've got two. As far as ADC goes, pretty much if your supp is an animal there's nothing you can do. You just get ass blasted unless their supp is also an animal. For support, your ADC being an animal sucks, but you've got 3 other players to play for so you can just let him go 0/10 and support mid or your jungler so at least there's some agency there. It's a tough job being a parent, we babysit you guys through an entire game and this is what we get. :'(
Your flair makes this too ez to respond to 
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On January 18 2019 06:56 AdsMoFro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2019 06:52 Jek wrote:On January 17 2019 13:18 AdsMoFro wrote:On January 17 2019 09:52 M2 wrote:On January 17 2019 07:25 Jek wrote:On January 17 2019 06:42 M2 wrote:
Getting autofilled as bot or support makes you realize why bot lanes are constantly going 0/15 game after game. Most of the people who play bot lane (both roles) are like whole tier behind in terms of game knowledge and probably natural intelligence regarding games. The only thing that keeps them in the same elo as the rest is because the enemy bot lanes are as dumb as them. This is not even a QQ, just an observation, its like so easy to shit on them as offrole is not even funny. What did you expect? We have PTSD from being 4-5 man ganked every second minute for years. Yes, actually one would think that after years and years of 3-4-5 men abuse, bot laners will put some thought when to engage and when to play safe, especially since they have a person there whos 50% of the job is to follow the map movements. Well you are for a big surprise or should I say disappointment if you expect something like this down there xDDDD it's a straight up fact that support mains until the highest divisions are worse players than their teammates. Bot lane (ad/supp) is the most autofilled role, meaning you're more likely to get at least one idiot who has no fucking idea what they're doing and if you're super unlucky, you've got two. As far as ADC goes, pretty much if your supp is an animal there's nothing you can do. You just get ass blasted unless their supp is also an animal. For support, your ADC being an animal sucks, but you've got 3 other players to play for so you can just let him go 0/10 and support mid or your jungler so at least there's some agency there. It's a tough job being a parent, we babysit you guys through an entire game and this is what we get. :'( Your flair makes this too ez to respond to
Tbh, with the amount of Morg I'm playing, I should probably change my flair as well. It's so hard not to tilt when your ADC Ashe gets one creep in the first wave without any form of harass. And we won that game because Vi camped our lane and tilted the 'better' bot lane out of this world.
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On January 18 2019 06:56 AdsMoFro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2019 06:52 Jek wrote:On January 17 2019 13:18 AdsMoFro wrote:On January 17 2019 09:52 M2 wrote:On January 17 2019 07:25 Jek wrote:On January 17 2019 06:42 M2 wrote:
Getting autofilled as bot or support makes you realize why bot lanes are constantly going 0/15 game after game. Most of the people who play bot lane (both roles) are like whole tier behind in terms of game knowledge and probably natural intelligence regarding games. The only thing that keeps them in the same elo as the rest is because the enemy bot lanes are as dumb as them. This is not even a QQ, just an observation, its like so easy to shit on them as offrole is not even funny. What did you expect? We have PTSD from being 4-5 man ganked every second minute for years. Yes, actually one would think that after years and years of 3-4-5 men abuse, bot laners will put some thought when to engage and when to play safe, especially since they have a person there whos 50% of the job is to follow the map movements. Well you are for a big surprise or should I say disappointment if you expect something like this down there xDDDD it's a straight up fact that support mains until the highest divisions are worse players than their teammates. Bot lane (ad/supp) is the most autofilled role, meaning you're more likely to get at least one idiot who has no fucking idea what they're doing and if you're super unlucky, you've got two. As far as ADC goes, pretty much if your supp is an animal there's nothing you can do. You just get ass blasted unless their supp is also an animal. For support, your ADC being an animal sucks, but you've got 3 other players to play for so you can just let him go 0/10 and support mid or your jungler so at least there's some agency there. It's a tough job being a parent, we babysit you guys through an entire game and this is what we get. :'( Your flair makes this too ez to respond to
Only champ that can keep you animals from becoming an endangered species. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Оk I come for an actual QQ this time, however, I was laughing so hard that not sure that its a real QQ. Rank game, mid plat elo, the enemies have inting Sion, however, 3 of our guys top mid and jungle (I was autofilled bot Swain this game) were dying so fast and so often to the enemy's jax (jung) and ahri that at some point Sion started to complain that he cannot keep with their deaths even though he is trying to suicide. At some point these 3 did not even have the items to kill him 1v3 under our turret and Sion started to whine even more how he wanted to test and practice this strat but its absolutely impossible with their int xDDD
p.s We won bot btw (regarding my previous posts) xDDD
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suggestion 1
any solo laner that buys 0 pinks and places under 5 trinket wards in a 20+ minute game should be automatically demoted a tier.
suggestion 2
if a jungler happens to have both solo laners fulfill the above conditions, he should be allowed to instantly quit the game without penalty
for fucks sake how am i supposed to play this role when my solo lanes get 0 vision, and lose their lanes while they have ignite vs tp
the fucking renekton was proxy farming after being up 2-0 and i made the mistake of trying to help only to get nocturne ultied at our tier2 while our riven is still stuck on tier1 at 10% hp trying to farm
then riven has the audacity to type 'jungle dif'
kill me
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what are you supposed to do when you get like 4 games in a row with autofilled players just trolling and first timing a champ?
even had an ornn ask us how to use his passive and straight up miss ults continuously while laughing about how he doesnt care if he loses. first time ornn with 0 mastery points
a lot of them are toxic as fuck too, actually got instant feedback report on one of them who was trolling and just shitting on people in chat
so frustrating playing with these people straight up trolling because they got autofilled while i lose all this LP on my main
like what the fuck is a 2k damage chogath in a 20 minute game
riot seriously please fix the ranked system. it just encourages people to soft int (or in my case straight up actively troll) when they get autofilled and games are decided by who doesnt have autofilled players. at least before the autofilled players would try their best because there were real repercussions to their LP
oh ya also had an autofilled blitz blame me for "not popping sivir spellshield" as jinx while he picked into it
and just had an autofilled adc player get support and locked in tp ezreal and just ran it down :D
hopefully instant feedback picks up on this because he didnt even try to mask it much
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I thought the way ranked worked by the end of last season was pretty good, this new system really feels like what people call 'overengineered', no need to fix something that wasn't broken. Ranked wasn't perfect, but now it feels like my normal games, complete shit shows.
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It's honestly so stupid how games are decided on number of autofills. Unless they figure out a better way to punish soft inters (or even hard inting) first, this ranked system will fail. I think if they figured out that first, this new system wouldn't have been that bad.
yo how the fuck does a jax top only use a ward once in a 20+ minute game
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Today after more than 6 years of playing league, joined at the end of season 2, went from bronze to diamond, being support main then top main, capable of playing all 5 roles on fairly similar level with the remark that bot lane I never played adcs, but my top/mid laners (seasons) long before it became acceptable to not pick adc bot, being a counter picker, being an otp, being whatever I felt like playing, following the pro scene up to the last worlds, consciously trolling in probably less than 10 games for the whole period, never being punished, starting to feel that the game no longer brings me enjoyment mid season 8, decaying from diamond by not playing, stayed in plat until season 9, finding the game more and more unpleasant and the people playing it more and more repulsive and the direction riot wants their game to go more and more how to say it, lets just say not a direction an old school competitive gamer would enjoy even when he could no longer be really competitive, dropped down to low gold, five champs short to have them all, today I uninstalled the game and I doubt that I'll ever install it again.
Goodbye sweet princess, it was a real thrill until you decided to change that much.
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You're going to be back within a month I bet.
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I can't stand getting punished for people holding people like me who want to try to win hostage by being completely useless at the game, flatout inting, being anticommunicative or whatever.
I can understand failed plays. I can undenderstand having bad games.
I can not, for the life of me, understand why you wouldn't listen to people who are successful on the map, who are the only anchor you have in winning the game. This is sabotage and true toxicity. And it's underhanded and can't be punished for because the system can't "see" how someone actively/passively loses games.
At least I know my place when I'm getting carried or I'm having a bad game.
And I need to vent this shit. It's not good for me to keep that anger inside and I'm sure as hell not going to shout or break things. I need to vent. How does a company not understand that different kinds of people play its game and sure, some can hold in their anger, or laugh it all away and some just get fucking frustrated as balls - like me - when the team is just not doing anything in its own power to try to win the game, but rather even tries to actively sabotage itself.
Sure, flaming doesn't work and yaddayadda I've heard it all before. But I've played enough games to know when it's a lost cause. I know the patterns and I know the type of players. So rather than whispering them soft words of encouragement, I rather flame the ever living fuck out of them so I can start with a clean slate in the next game. That, and having all my honor stripped away or getting chat restricted.
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Vladimir, Vladimir, Vladimir.
Toplane has been infested with nothing but cancerous champions for so long it's starting to piss me off. If the cesspool that is meta toplaners have been banned out you're 100% going to play against a OTP Tryndamere. I fucking hate this game right.
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You should just stop typing in chat is what it sounds like. It's probably the biggest contributor to losing, doesn't really matter what you type, people will always react negatively, unless you get the rare 'good guy' team, which I would put at 1% of my games. Mute your team if things aren't absolutely happy, then you don't even have to try to ignore it.
I know what you mean by soft inting, I'm positive this kind of behavior was not as pronounced in the past as it has been the last few seasons. But it is very hard to prove, especially in a meta where doing a single mistake can basically snowball your lane beyond recovery, and 0/3 by 10 minutes isn't rare.
I can not, for the life of me, understand why you wouldn't listen to people who are successful on the map, who are the only anchor you have in winning the game.
People who act like this are the exact reason I've taken another break from the game. I don't know how friendly you bring your point across, but almost all of my last games had someone who was ahead start dictating the game in a way that centered around them, or doesn't consider what is actually going on. The number of support games where I put my ADC ahead, and because I didn't play flawlessly (or didn't teleport behind the enemy team when Kai'Sa is alone in their jungle...) and got flamed, or watching one dude tell his entire team they're trash and he's their only saving grace, is insane. Yeah, so many boosted animals in this game, but telling them that doesn't improve their gameplay.
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I've seen my fair share of salvagable games and I've done my fair share of game losing moves. But when you're literally the only lane doing well, and you're rotating and telling the zombie midlaner to go to a botlane, not only to get some farm for himself, but to let the Jinx that's at 40 cs @ 12 minutes bot farm and he doesn't do it, I fucking lose my shit. It's the same crap that happens when you leave lane ridiculously ahead vs a Vayne and you don't see her in the game (except farming a sidelane) and then you can't sbowball fast enough only for her to come back and smash you all around 40 minutes. I've seen it happen way too much. Typically sitting at botside of the map with adc/sup is accomplishing nothing once you've taken the turret and it's the best way to assert vision/power on the map.
But I don't care, at all, for a midlaner that lost a turret, while not leaving the lane, not leaving the lane and sharing exp/gold when the strong part of the map is putting up pressure and then still not contributing anything to teamfights/skirmishes.
I'm happy to let someone carry if they can do it and when I'm strong myself. I'm a teamplayer in the sense that it literally makes me happy when I see/experience a well executed teamfight, and sometimes playing as a team means you put your commander pants on and boss people around, because I've also had way too many games where the team just refuses to fight for anything and just flatout loses the game by rolling over (which are the ones I hate the most because 1) it feels like a waste of time and 2) you're basically signaling you're not even trying to win).
So when it needs to be done, yeah, I'll make the game all about me or boss people around where they need to go and do certain things. But again, I have no issue taking a backseat if it means someone else has a better grasp on that particular game.
On March 27 2019 02:28 DarkCore wrote:
Yeah, so many boosted animals in this game, but telling them that doesn't improve their gameplay.
That's exactly what I mean. There's amount of smooth talking I can do or sussing words I can say to make someone magically play better, so the instance I see someone shitting the bed (this is not going 0/4 or some shit, but rather actually looking at the decisions that are made and the mechanics during fights), I know it's lost and if this fucker does not realize he's the one fucking it all up (or the couple of people, because it's usually more than one), I need to air my frustration. I've heard myself being called trash many times and I know when I've fucked up and I know what type of people they are. And if them telling me I'm trash makes them behave like they've just taken a big breath of fresh air and have calmed down a bit I can stomach that because it means they're thinking clear again and I can help them win the game, no matter how trash they think I am. This does not mean I condone actual toxicity, which is holding your teammates hostage by ruining the game by actively feeding or whatever.
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On March 26 2019 23:44 Uldridge wrote:
I can't stand getting punished for people holding people like me who want to try to win hostage by being completely useless at the game, flatout inting, being anticommunicative or whatever.
I can understand failed plays. I can undenderstand having bad games.
I can not, for the life of me, understand why you wouldn't listen to people who are successful on the map, who are the only anchor you have in winning the game. This is sabotage and true toxicity. And it's underhanded and can't be punished for because the system can't "see" how someone actively/passively loses games.
At least I know my place when I'm getting carried or I'm having a bad game.
And I need to vent this shit. It's not good for me to keep that anger inside and I'm sure as hell not going to shout or break things. I need to vent. How does a company not understand that different kinds of people play its game and sure, some can hold in their anger, or laugh it all away and some just get fucking frustrated as balls - like me - when the team is just not doing anything in its own power to try to win the game, but rather even tries to actively sabotage itself.
Sure, flaming doesn't work and yaddayadda I've heard it all before. But I've played enough games to know when it's a lost cause. I know the patterns and I know the type of players. So rather than whispering them soft words of encouragement, I rather flame the ever living fuck out of them so I can start with a clean slate in the next game. That, and having all my honor stripped away or getting chat restricted.
ya'll need to find inner peace
some people run hot cold and can play well or int horribly. I'm partial to that myself.
When they are tilted they aren't in a mood for reasonable discourse either.
thats life
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