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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 10:16:09
June 26 2013 10:15 GMT
#8901
I went 19/4/5 as Tristana and my team couldn't even group to push down towers, then tried to contest baron when 2/3 of our inhibs are down with super pouring in... sigh. Then died one at a time outside our base.

This is why I stopped playing Tris.
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
June 26 2013 11:30 GMT
#8902
My road to lvl30 has been quite interesting. Since this is chinese server, some players are quite decent, and since ranked and unranked have seperate MMRs, Im usually playing vs players of the same calibur in unranked. Then I hit 30. Then I played my first ranked game. Then I realized there were players who spammed bot games to get here and have no idea how to play vs real opponents. Then I cried a fucking river and drowned in it
Stop procrastinating
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
June 26 2013 12:45 GMT
#8903
Does anyone have a really funny joke I can say at the start of each game to get my team in a good mood? serious question. Or a random fact or something. Maybe a link to a funny picture. Got to work on everyone though.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 18:40:41
June 26 2013 18:39 GMT
#8904
Lux is utterly terrible but in the end it doesn't matter because Eve set a tent mid and I can't ward every single path she could possibly take, so I'm getting ganked over and over and over and over.
I thought Eve couldn't be that annoying with pinks as long as you green ward the wraiths and stay on that side, but turns out not.

Also matchmaking. Stop putting Bronze IV against Plat IV just because of premades, or 3+2 against 5 solos, wtf Riot. ._.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 26 2013 22:02 GMT
#8905
On June 26 2013 21:45 TheLink wrote:
Does anyone have a really funny joke I can say at the start of each game to get my team in a good mood? serious question. Or a random fact or something. Maybe a link to a funny picture. Got to work on everyone though.


"I usually play Nami because she has a good wave clear."

I start every match by announcing FRIENDSHIP! in chat.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
June 26 2013 22:50 GMT
#8906
On June 27 2013 07:02 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 21:45 TheLink wrote:
Does anyone have a really funny joke I can say at the start of each game to get my team in a good mood? serious question. Or a random fact or something. Maybe a link to a funny picture. Got to work on everyone though.


"I usually play Nami because she has a good wave clear."

I start every match by announcing FRIENDSHIP! in chat.


As a Nami main, I'm ashamed that I have not thought of that joke yet. I'm gonna steal it =P.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
June 26 2013 23:20 GMT
#8907
Damn I must be bored to be reading this thread. Work can sometimes be so much of a drag T__T
Jaedong :3
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
June 27 2013 03:40 GMT
#8908
How does Zed lose lane to a karthus, let alone let him roam for free?
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 08:13:19
June 27 2013 08:13 GMT
#8909
I hate support Nidalee.

Seriously. You are not supporting your team if you refuse to buy one ward and build straight AP while taking buffs and farm from the carries.

Edit: And missing every god damn spear.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
June 27 2013 08:18 GMT
#8910
My problem with LoL? I hold myself to super high standards, I get mad at myself when I fuck up and I try my best to prevent those mistakes a second time. But LoL seriously forces you to not care about that, especially at lower MMR. I expect junglers to know how to gank, my Support to know which summoners are on CD in lane, the general CD on the opponent spells, etc... I put this on them when I really shouldn't. I should just go into every game expecting my team to be retarded every time and that I will have to carry them, and that's what's wrong with LoL. I forces you into the mindset where not only do you have to crush your lane, but you have to babysit everyone else as well.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
June 27 2013 08:27 GMT
#8911
On June 27 2013 17:18 Shotcoder wrote:
My problem with LoL? I hold myself to super high standards, I get mad at myself when I fuck up and I try my best to prevent those mistakes a second time. But LoL seriously forces you to not care about that, especially at lower MMR. I expect junglers to know how to gank, my Support to know which summoners are on CD in lane, the general CD on the opponent spells, etc... I put this on them when I really shouldn't. I should just go into every game expecting my team to be retarded every time and that I will have to carry them, and that's what's wrong with LoL. I forces you into the mindset where not only do you have to crush your lane, but you have to babysit everyone else as well.


Try thinking of them as team-mates at the level they're at and see how that works rather than under/over-estimating every time.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
June 27 2013 09:07 GMT
#8912
Why are Lux and Lee Sin in every fuckin game for the last 3 or more months? I am so fed up of seeing them. No matter Top, Mid, Jungle, Support, my team, enemy team they are always there like the sun).
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 27 2013 09:33 GMT
#8913
On June 27 2013 18:07 M2 wrote:
Why are Lux and Lee Sin in every fuckin game for the last 3 or more months? I am so fed up of seeing them. No matter Top, Mid, Jungle, Support, my team, enemy team they are always there like the sun).

Blame Insec for LeeSin
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 27 2013 12:33 GMT
#8914
My power went out for like a second, took like 10 minutes to get back into the game due to my router resetting really slowly. I get back and my team is still quite in the game (only one inhib down), but then they decide to bum rush mid to try to kill an exposed inhib when the enemy team still has baron and we all die. I was level 11. -_-
SF-Fork
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Russian Federation1401 Posts
June 27 2013 12:38 GMT
#8915
On June 27 2013 17:13 Mondeezy wrote:
I hate support Nidalee.

Seriously. You are not supporting your team if you refuse to buy one ward and build straight AP while taking buffs and farm from the carries.

Edit: And missing every god damn spear.



I hate it that every time I pick support nidalee, everyone starts flaming me.

Yes, I get it. Nida has no CC. But she has complete river bush and botlane bush control with traps and wards. She makes the team immune to unsuspecting invade and she has GREAT poke. She can also defensive trap your golems and offensive trap enemy golems for an astute jungler that wants to steal.

Sure, you can't get a leona off the adc's back, but against anyone else, hit 2 spears and a caitlyn, draven, varus, vayne or almost any adc for that matter will go for the kill! Also, she basically doesn't die with her high mobility.
canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 13:29:55
June 27 2013 13:29 GMT
#8916
Ezreal on my team tries to contest dragon alone at 40 minutes. We have 2 inhibs down, they have 1 and we have baron buff on 3 members. Obviously their jungle smites the dragon, ezreal shifts into the wall and dies. Tryndamere runs 1v5 and dies, then brand runs 1v5 and dies. Didn't see that one coming... What goes through some people's minds just absolutely baffles me.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12075 Posts
June 27 2013 14:57 GMT
#8917
On June 27 2013 21:38 SF-Fork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 17:13 Mondeezy wrote:
I hate support Nidalee.

Seriously. You are not supporting your team if you refuse to buy one ward and build straight AP while taking buffs and farm from the carries.

Edit: And missing every god damn spear.



I hate it that every time I pick support nidalee, everyone starts flaming me.

Yes, I get it. Nida has no CC. But she has complete river bush and botlane bush control with traps and wards. She makes the team immune to unsuspecting invade and she has GREAT poke. She can also defensive trap your golems and offensive trap enemy golems for an astute jungler that wants to steal.

Sure, you can't get a leona off the adc's back, but against anyone else, hit 2 spears and a caitlyn, draven, varus, vayne or almost any adc for that matter will go for the kill! Also, she basically doesn't die with her high mobility.


The main problem with her is that she is actually bad as a support. She works against people who are equally bad. Also, she is usually played in a pretty trolly manner. Like a dorans start when it was still 475, and then building pure AP and never buying a single ward during the whole game.

With her reliance on not being pushed back too hard this means that your botlane is at complete mercy of the enemy jungler. This works from time time to, but is solely reliant on the enemy jungler not noticing.the lack of wards botlane or running through bushes which you obviously trapped to gank you.

She preys on bad players who don't push the lane against her. Any other support can push harder then Nida, but most enemies choose to sit back and only lasthit because they are scared of Nidalees damage. Which is pretty much the worst thing you can do.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
June 27 2013 15:28 GMT
#8918
On June 27 2013 17:27 TheLink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 17:18 Shotcoder wrote:
My problem with LoL? I hold myself to super high standards, I get mad at myself when I fuck up and I try my best to prevent those mistakes a second time. But LoL seriously forces you to not care about that, especially at lower MMR. I expect junglers to know how to gank, my Support to know which summoners are on CD in lane, the general CD on the opponent spells, etc... I put this on them when I really shouldn't. I should just go into every game expecting my team to be retarded every time and that I will have to carry them, and that's what's wrong with LoL. I forces you into the mindset where not only do you have to crush your lane, but you have to babysit everyone else as well.


Try thinking of them as team-mates at the level they're at and see how that works rather than under/over-estimating every time.


THat's what I'm expecting? I mean Blitz grab is 15-20 second cooldown depending on masteries, levels, or items in the laning phase. It's not rocket science to know this. Gold 3 players should know this. So I'm not over estimating anything. if you havent seen leona throw her sword recently as sona? you probably shouldnt walk up and try to q Her.

just a few examples of my bot lane experiences, and experiences that shouldnt happen in Gold
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12075 Posts
June 27 2013 16:01 GMT
#8919
The best way to treat this is in my opinion to just look at bit like poker. The teammates/enemies are the hand you get. Your job is to make the best out of it. Some games you can't win, others you can't lose. The important games are the games in between, those where you can win a percentage depending on how good you are.

The Sona who gets hit by leona e? Depending on her position you can still win this trade if her AD has to walk a bit towards her, because you can just shoot the AD all the time. And if you can't win it, make sure you don't die too. Don't criticize what your teammate do, criticize what you do and optimize your own play in accordance to what your team does.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
June 27 2013 19:30 GMT
#8920
On June 28 2013 01:01 Simberto wrote:
The best way to treat this is in my opinion to just look at bit like poker. The teammates/enemies are the hand you get. Your job is to make the best out of it. Some games you can't win, others you can't lose. The important games are the games in between, those where you can win a percentage depending on how good you are.

The Sona who gets hit by leona e? Depending on her position you can still win this trade if her AD has to walk a bit towards her, because you can just shoot the AD all the time. And if you can't win it, make sure you don't die too. Don't criticize what your teammate do, criticize what you do and optimize your own play in accordance to what your team does.



This is such a cop out way of just saying play better. I'm not being a dick but you can't win games alone and if your team doesn't uderstand basic champion mechanics(like zed losing to a karthus in lane),understand basic champion cooldowns(sona getting e'd by a leona), objective control, ganking potential, diving potential..etc

This is why I stopped duoing with my Silver friends. I'm tired of babysitting players and I feel you should bne held accountable for playing like shit or playing like a retard. Ing if you try your best and go 0/6 you should be reported but you should understand you fucked up somewhere really bad. That's the issue with solo queue, no one say 'oh I fucked up'. ,id roamed bot and you didn't have your shit warded bot side and they get 4 man dove under tower? That's on you mid laner don't blame lack of wards or lack of map awareness, you didn't follow, you didn't pressure, or you didn't ward. 3 possible thing that could have changed the outcome.

people in solo queue don't ask 'what could I have done better?'. They rave about how bad the team is or how they got camped. I can distictly remember games where I died and I know I lapsed on a cait q cooldown or graves q cooldown.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
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