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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11508 Posts
June 22 2013 20:13 GMT
#8861
On June 23 2013 01:38 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 23:33 Simberto wrote:
On June 22 2013 21:11 krndandaman wrote:
go 5-1 in lane as kennen vs chogath, zone him out so badly that i was level 5 with 2 kills when he was level 2, still lose.

aatrox jungle throws so hard by initiating on team with baron. and we were up 10 kills too.

anyways i'm at 0 points now and i'm wondering if dropping a division will reset my MMR? last time I dropped from silver 1 to 2 I stopped gaining/losing 3-5 LP and went back to 10-20 LP. If so, as bad as it sounds, I might have to lose 1 ranked game just so I can get out of this 3-5 LP mess. It'll take me a record of like 60-30 to get to 100 LP.

edit:
our bans: cait draven vayne

IUS2JY: tpo
Deadly Parad0x: jungle
IUS2JY: top
iM JooN: mid
DanSmiles: top
IUS2JY: well i can adc
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Dropping a division should not have any influence on your MMR (except of course that you need to lose to do that). The whole league system is apparently pretty obscure, but you can generally expect to gain more points in lower divisions. There are 2 different reasons you could be getting those low LP gains. Either your MMR is very low compared to where you are at, or your uncertainty rating is very high after a winning streak.

Second story.....silly people.


idk, i've dropped to silver 2 a few times like a month ago and my mmr seemed to "reset" as in I started getting more point gain/loss after dropping and promoting again. I think my MMR is super low because I am always the highest ranked person on my team in solo queue. However, I usually get the bottom side of the picks (4th/5th) so I'm in this hole where I'm the highest ranked but get my least favored positions (support/jungle) and it either turns out really well as in win with like 40/10 score all inhibs before tower lost or we just get rolled. This has been happening for a while and I usually split even my games 50/50. It's really frustrating because 1) I barely see any point difference/visual progress 2) whenever I duoqueue with my friend in the same league,division,tier I am always last pick (10 straight games regardless of who hosts so I am sure I have super low MMR) and get my worst positions. I feel like this system screws me over and it sucks.


Your position in the team should not depend on your MMR. Yes, the internal order of the team is by MMR, but so is the matchmaking, so unless you are the person with the lowest MMR in the world you should get an even split of all pick positions.

If you go roughly 50/50, you should not see any influence pointwise unless for some reason your MMR and your league placement are disjointed. If you go 50/50, and don't see large changes pointwise, your MMR and your league fit together.

If you are duo queuing, even if your partner is only the very slightest quantity of MMR above you, you will always be last pick. The reason for this is that the matchmaking inflates your MMR for matchmaking purposes if you duo, but NOT for the internal positions within your team. Meaning if you duo with 2 people at nearly equal MMR, you always get 4th and 5th pick. If you duo with someone a lot higher, he always gets first and you get last. (Which is incredibly retarded in general and should be changed, as it absolutely discourages duoing with someone at your skilllevel.)

However, if you are solo, the matchmaking does not screw you over, no matter how low your elo is, unless you are the person with the lowest elo in the world. The only thing that can happen is that your league will lower until you match your MMR. I think you misinterpret how things work. The leagues are purely cosmetic, and having a lower/higher MMR then your league does not influence what type of games you get. Anything between clicking on "match me" and the score screen is solely influenced by MMR. Anything on the score screen and your league display is also influenced by your league position.

I think you are majorly biased in how you perceive the games, and that influences what you think is happening. Try keeping track of what pick position you are actually at instead of going by rough feels.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
June 22 2013 21:59 GMT
#8862
I love when you crush lane, but lose the game because your team has no idea how to team fight or what objectives are. 6 item vayne? Lets farm until baron wears off. 1/2 HP inhib? Lets back off so elise can get blue. What the flying fuck?
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
June 22 2013 22:04 GMT
#8863
On June 23 2013 06:59 Shotcoder wrote:
I love when you crush lane, but lose the game because your team has no idea how to team fight or what objectives are. 6 item vayne? Lets farm until baron wears off. 1/2 HP inhib? Lets back off so elise can get blue. What the flying fuck?

WHY ARE YOU STEALING MY CS!?
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 22 2013 22:16 GMT
#8864
I swear the animation/hitbox for Ghost Bride Morgana's binding is twice as big as the regular snare.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9118 Posts
June 22 2013 23:01 GMT
#8865
Close game, decisive teamfight ensues and we're doing well-- black screen. Sudden thunderstorm made the power drop for a few seconds. I reboot and start reconnecting asap and at ~90% I get an error message that the game is no longer active. Defeat.
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
June 23 2013 00:55 GMT
#8866
God damnit Singed is a champ that requires NO FUCKING SKILL except having a right click on your mouse. Literally.
This fucking autistic champ (he is, don't deny it, he's a pure retarded champ for retarded people) is UNKILLABLE but can MURDER YOUR WHOLE FUCKING TEAM BY JUST RIGHT-CLICKING.
Like, this one never left top lane at all, we were constantly ganking the fuck out of this motherfucker, and even at 1v4-1v5 it took us a whole 30s to kill him. But there's more ! He had rylai/rabaddon/roa/archangel/apjungler item, which is roughly ~550ap.
This retarded motherfucker had 840 ap. Without baron. WITHOUT FUCKING BARON.
By 1 fling he dealt 950+ damage to our nida support. And obviously we can't prevent them from engaging BECAUSE THIS STUPID MOTHERFUCKING SON OF A BITCH JUST HAS TO RIGHT-CLICK INTO US.
Ignore him ? He kills all your team.
Focus him ? Their team kills your while he's "trololo I take no dmg".

FUCKING RETARDED DUMBSHIT MOTHERFUCKING PIECE OF SHITTY SON OF A BITCH SCUMBAG OF MY FUCKING ASS.
God damnit I hate this champ. If you play him you're fucking retarded and unskilled.
And this proxy fucking bullshit, goddamnit, the guy who invented it is a piece of shit. I heard that he reached diamond by doing only that.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
June 23 2013 01:12 GMT
#8867
SO upset I was demoted, but I'll take my first penta of the season in the next game as repercussion for the stupidity.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 23 2013 03:16 GMT
#8868
Wow, apparently getting 100 points in diamond1 doesn't guarantee a promotion series to challanger
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 06:07:12
June 23 2013 05:30 GMT
#8869
On June 23 2013 12:16 Scip wrote:
Wow, apparently getting 100 points in diamond1 doesn't guarantee a promotion series to challanger


THe level of troll in this post is off the charts.

OT: I love when someone gets caught, so you e>q as Jarvan all 5 of their team into an ult....and your whole team flashes away...

Edit: get demoted, go to 76 LP, get to promo, lose promo, go to 56 LP WTF.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 23 2013 06:55 GMT
#8870
I thought I found the key to free Elo, just play support all day and win lane while making calls and looking at map. And then you get games like my last one.

I picked thresh first pick, cool. their bot lane Janna/Quinn, my AD picks Ashe. I zone the crap out of quinn, like hard. She like 20 CS behind, getting bullied. Was level 3, Janna gets caught in awkward spot so I go on her, get her to like 50 HP without Ashe doing anything (keep in mind, I put lantern down for her, so like... straight up all she had to do was auto once, or click lantern once. Instead she flashes in, wiffs her W, cancels two autos so they miss and dies after popping barrier.

I am autoing whole time as Thresh, get a double kill with no assists because straight up ashe didn't even breath on them.

I'm okay with players no having the greatest mechanics, but holy crap thats brutal. Worst yet, I got flamed by four people afterwards for being greedy.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 07:13:58
June 23 2013 07:12 GMT
#8871
Well, the afks and disconnects have returned in their full vengeance! On massive losing streak (probably like 2-15 during this time). went from nearly up for my series for plat to gold 3. I'd say maybe 4-5 disconnects/afks that cost the game, 1-2 that were swung because my team overcame the person being gone for 5-10 minutes, perhaps 2 or 3 games where I actually played bad. At some point I started losing like nearly 40 LP a game. What the hell. Thank you disconnects cropping up in the middle of my losing streak.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 23 2013 07:20 GMT
#8872
--- Nuked ---
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 07:26:28
June 23 2013 07:24 GMT
#8873
Holy crap..it's next to impossible to win a game today. Support,mid,carry, jungle fuck! Afkers feeders,just plain retards.

Support game was pretty much done and dusted...despite our pantheon literally being complete fool, i managed to save him a few times, and prevent feeding tryndamere..then he just went total retard and dived into 1v5s, and the rest of the team trying to save him just got sucked in...one by one. Tryndamere just got fully fed and then another guy had to dc....gg.

The rest of the game were pretty much every other lanes just feeding or losing, because of some guy being afk and the other person not being able to 1v2.
3 of these games we did not even have to surrender because they ended before 20.

I should've probably expected this after the row of wins I got last week.
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
June 23 2013 08:29 GMT
#8874
Play an ARAM to test my connection. All clear.

Call mid as first pick wanting to play Morgana, team begs me to play top and I pick Thresh for swap. End up as mid anyways as Jayce. God damn it.

Get massive packet loss as soon as Mid Tryn spins into me at level 1. I've respawned by the time lag goes away. God damn it.

Spend the rest of the game trying not to feed with a team bitching at me. God damn it.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 23 2013 18:02 GMT
#8875
On June 23 2013 09:55 Sakray wrote:
God damnit Singed is a champ that requires NO FUCKING SKILL except having a right click on your mouse. Literally.
This fucking autistic champ (he is, don't deny it, he's a pure retarded champ for retarded people) is UNKILLABLE but can MURDER YOUR WHOLE FUCKING TEAM BY JUST RIGHT-CLICKING.
Like, this one never left top lane at all, we were constantly ganking the fuck out of this motherfucker, and even at 1v4-1v5 it took us a whole 30s to kill him. But there's more ! He had rylai/rabaddon/roa/archangel/apjungler item, which is roughly ~550ap.
This retarded motherfucker had 840 ap. Without baron. WITHOUT FUCKING BARON.
By 1 fling he dealt 950+ damage to our nida support. And obviously we can't prevent them from engaging BECAUSE THIS STUPID MOTHERFUCKING SON OF A BITCH JUST HAS TO RIGHT-CLICK INTO US.
Ignore him ? He kills all your team.
Focus him ? Their team kills your while he's "trololo I take no dmg".

FUCKING RETARDED DUMBSHIT MOTHERFUCKING PIECE OF SHITTY SON OF A BITCH SCUMBAG OF MY FUCKING ASS.
God damnit I hate this champ. If you play him you're fucking retarded and unskilled.
And this proxy fucking bullshit, goddamnit, the guy who invented it is a piece of shit. I heard that he reached diamond by doing only that.


Hey, you. *opens coat* Wanna buy a Jayce?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
June 23 2013 19:04 GMT
#8876
On June 24 2013 03:02 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 09:55 Sakray wrote:
God damnit Singed is a champ that requires NO FUCKING SKILL except having a right click on your mouse. Literally.
This fucking autistic champ (he is, don't deny it, he's a pure retarded champ for retarded people) is UNKILLABLE but can MURDER YOUR WHOLE FUCKING TEAM BY JUST RIGHT-CLICKING.
Like, this one never left top lane at all, we were constantly ganking the fuck out of this motherfucker, and even at 1v4-1v5 it took us a whole 30s to kill him. But there's more ! He had rylai/rabaddon/roa/archangel/apjungler item, which is roughly ~550ap.
This retarded motherfucker had 840 ap. Without baron. WITHOUT FUCKING BARON.
By 1 fling he dealt 950+ damage to our nida support. And obviously we can't prevent them from engaging BECAUSE THIS STUPID MOTHERFUCKING SON OF A BITCH JUST HAS TO RIGHT-CLICK INTO US.
Ignore him ? He kills all your team.
Focus him ? Their team kills your while he's "trololo I take no dmg".

FUCKING RETARDED DUMBSHIT MOTHERFUCKING PIECE OF SHITTY SON OF A BITCH SCUMBAG OF MY FUCKING ASS.
God damnit I hate this champ. If you play him you're fucking retarded and unskilled.
And this proxy fucking bullshit, goddamnit, the guy who invented it is a piece of shit. I heard that he reached diamond by doing only that.


Hey, you. *opens coat* Wanna buy a Jayce?



As jayce you need some skill atleast, you need to kite and hit your qe. As singed you just derp in lane ,doesnt even matter if you are 0/4, if the game goes past 20 minutes you just auto win
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 23 2013 22:15 GMT
#8877
Or just play Teemo.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
June 24 2013 01:37 GMT
#8878
I should start dodging when teammates pick Ezreal.
The legend of Darien lives on
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 02:04:49
June 24 2013 02:04 GMT
#8879
On June 24 2013 10:37 mr_tolkien wrote:
I should start dodging when teammates pick Ezreal.

agreed, they never do anything

I guess if your team is winning they ks some kills
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 24 2013 02:17 GMT
#8880
On June 24 2013 04:04 OmegaKnetus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 03:02 Jerubaal wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:55 Sakray wrote:
God damnit Singed is a champ that requires NO FUCKING SKILL except having a right click on your mouse. Literally.
This fucking autistic champ (he is, don't deny it, he's a pure retarded champ for retarded people) is UNKILLABLE but can MURDER YOUR WHOLE FUCKING TEAM BY JUST RIGHT-CLICKING.
Like, this one never left top lane at all, we were constantly ganking the fuck out of this motherfucker, and even at 1v4-1v5 it took us a whole 30s to kill him. But there's more ! He had rylai/rabaddon/roa/archangel/apjungler item, which is roughly ~550ap.
This retarded motherfucker had 840 ap. Without baron. WITHOUT FUCKING BARON.
By 1 fling he dealt 950+ damage to our nida support. And obviously we can't prevent them from engaging BECAUSE THIS STUPID MOTHERFUCKING SON OF A BITCH JUST HAS TO RIGHT-CLICK INTO US.
Ignore him ? He kills all your team.
Focus him ? Their team kills your while he's "trololo I take no dmg".

FUCKING RETARDED DUMBSHIT MOTHERFUCKING PIECE OF SHITTY SON OF A BITCH SCUMBAG OF MY FUCKING ASS.
God damnit I hate this champ. If you play him you're fucking retarded and unskilled.
And this proxy fucking bullshit, goddamnit, the guy who invented it is a piece of shit. I heard that he reached diamond by doing only that.


Hey, you. *opens coat* Wanna buy a Jayce?



As jayce you need some skill atleast, you need to kite and hit your qe. As singed you just derp in lane ,doesnt even matter if you are 0/4, if the game goes past 20 minutes you just auto win


You can shit on Singed, you just need to know how and what champs to use. Singed can kill creeps hella fast, but he can't really kill towers well. Galio is another champion I've seen that can beat him, although it's a bit of an uncommon pick.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
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