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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
July 25 2025 11:48 GMT
#641
On July 25 2025 20:46 Ser Galachad wrote:
People who thinks Cure should have just attacked or finished it didn't pay attention. After Serral got behind he kicked it into high gear and outpaced Cure at every point. Insane to watch, insane how he can sometimes just get into a flow like that. That wasn't a throw, it was a show of force from Serral.


We are clearly seeing two different games here.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
July 25 2025 11:48 GMT
#642
On July 25 2025 20:45 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2025 20:44 Poopi wrote:
On July 25 2025 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
Why Cure didn't press the attack after snipping all those bases? Its kinda baffling

He couldn’t really finish iirc, but ghost was probably a better option than liberator :|


He couldn't finish because he wanted to do a liberator transition....

He did the lib transition after he decided he couldn't attack into fungal/hydra.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Nasigil1
Profile Joined March 2024
114 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-25 11:50:41
July 25 2025 11:48 GMT
#643
On July 25 2025 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
Why Cure didn't press the attack after snipping all those bases? Its kinda baffling


Dude just didn't think it was possible to beat Serral like that and decided to play it safe. Cure really lacks the killer instinct.

Clem, Maru and Oliveira would've definitely finish off Serral there. 4 base Terran vs 3 base Zerg with no Hive, 20+ supply advantage. There's no excuse.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
July 25 2025 11:50 GMT
#644
On July 25 2025 20:48 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2025 20:45 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2025 20:44 Poopi wrote:
On July 25 2025 20:43 Argonauta wrote:
Why Cure didn't press the attack after snipping all those bases? Its kinda baffling

He couldn’t really finish iirc, but ghost was probably a better option than liberator :|


He couldn't finish because he wanted to do a liberator transition....

He did the lib transition after he decided he couldn't attack into fungal/hydra.



I think 2 prong attack left and right would have better chances there. He was puking in the right side of the map with a tiny army meanwhile his left army was idle next to a full mining hatch barely defended. But whatsoever.
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1059 Posts
July 25 2025 11:50 GMT
#645
Time for battle mech.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-25 11:51:48
July 25 2025 11:50 GMT
#646
I like changing it up with battle mech here, not sure if it'll work but you have to mix it up and throw different things at Serral.

Edit:: just normal mech? Maybe he has something cooked up
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3511 Posts
July 25 2025 11:51 GMT
#647
Except its Turtle mech
Ser Galachad
Profile Joined July 2025
4 Posts
July 25 2025 11:53 GMT
#648
On July 25 2025 20:48 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2025 20:46 Ser Galachad wrote:
People who thinks Cure should have just attacked or finished it didn't pay attention. After Serral got behind he kicked it into high gear and outpaced Cure at every point. Insane to watch, insane how he can sometimes just get into a flow like that. That wasn't a throw, it was a show of force from Serral.


We are clearly seeing two different games here.


Yes, maybe so. For you it probably is Cure throwing it and Serral playing an OP race, one or both. To me, I see a player of high skill turning it up after the opponent making a great play. Cure just can't keep up with Serral when he goes into high gear.

I mean it's still statistically unlikely for Cure to win anyway, looking at their history. But maybe you think Cure is better and Serral just lucky ^^
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
July 25 2025 11:53 GMT
#649
On July 25 2025 20:41 MJG wrote:
Hydra Blink winning a game.

Didn't have that on my bingo card.

EDIT:

Okay, maybe not quite winning the game, but it definitely swung the balance.

That was a lot of Liberators to lose for basically nothing.

It's not like the hydra blink - no idea who thought this was necessary to have in the game anyway - made the big difference. The libs moved too far forward and the army only had 2 almost dead medivacs with 0 energy. Cure wasn't really ready for a fight.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1059 Posts
July 25 2025 11:53 GMT
#650
I did not expect turtle mech.

Bold choice.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
July 25 2025 11:55 GMT
#651
I know people probably don't care enough to make a distinction but a 2/2 timing attack isn't turtling.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1237 Posts
July 25 2025 11:56 GMT
#652
On July 25 2025 20:53 Ser Galachad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2025 20:48 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2025 20:46 Ser Galachad wrote:
People who thinks Cure should have just attacked or finished it didn't pay attention. After Serral got behind he kicked it into high gear and outpaced Cure at every point. Insane to watch, insane how he can sometimes just get into a flow like that. That wasn't a throw, it was a show of force from Serral.


We are clearly seeing two different games here.


Yes, maybe so. For you it probably is Cure throwing it and Serral playing an OP race, one or both. To me, I see a player of high skill turning it up after the opponent making a great play. Cure just can't keep up with Serral when he goes into high gear.

I mean it's still statistically unlikely for Cure to win anyway, looking at their history. But maybe you think Cure is better and Serral just lucky ^^

Two things can be true at the same time. Serral played out of his mind, and if Cure had played it out differently he probably would have won. I don't think any other Zerg could have come back, but Cure gave him that tiny chance that he took.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
July 25 2025 11:56 GMT
#653
On July 25 2025 20:53 Ser Galachad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2025 20:48 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2025 20:46 Ser Galachad wrote:
People who thinks Cure should have just attacked or finished it didn't pay attention. After Serral got behind he kicked it into high gear and outpaced Cure at every point. Insane to watch, insane how he can sometimes just get into a flow like that. That wasn't a throw, it was a show of force from Serral.


We are clearly seeing two different games here.


Yes, maybe so. For you it probably is Cure throwing it and Serral playing an OP race, one or both. To me, I see a player of high skill turning it up after the opponent making a great play. Cure just can't keep up with Serral when he goes into high gear.

I mean it's still statistically unlikely for Cure to win anyway, looking at their history. But maybe you think Cure is better and Serral just lucky ^^


That is just a fantasy tale! I don't understand how you can make up so many things of what i think. I am less surprised now we are seeing two different games.
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-25 11:58:45
July 25 2025 11:56 GMT
#654
On July 25 2025 20:53 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2025 20:41 MJG wrote:
Hydra Blink winning a game.

Didn't have that on my bingo card.

EDIT:

Okay, maybe not quite winning the game, but it definitely swung the balance.

That was a lot of Liberators to lose for basically nothing.

It's not like the hydra blink - no idea who thought this was necessary to have in the game anyway - made the big difference. The libs moved too far forward and the army only had 2 almost dead medivacs with 0 energy. Cure wasn't really ready for a fight.

It looked to me like Hydra Blink enabled a stronger punish.

Flying the Liberators ahead of the rest of the army was definitely a mistake, but Cure would've traded a lot better if the Liberators could've finished sieging before the Hydralisks got underneath them.

EDIT:

But I'm splitting hairs. Your general idea is definitely correct. Cure wasn't ready for that fight either way.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
July 25 2025 11:59 GMT
#655
Ugh why clump your tanks so close together
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9021 Posts
July 25 2025 11:59 GMT
#656
Playing against Serral without constantly harrassing him??
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
July 25 2025 12:01 GMT
#657
Cure is playing really well up to a certain point where his execution just lets him down over and over again.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1059 Posts
July 25 2025 12:01 GMT
#658
People told me that Swarm Hosts need to stay in the game to help Zerg players deal with turtle mech, but Serral hasn't made a single Swarm Host in this game.

Does that mean we can finally remove the damn things?



I'm joking, I'm joking... I just really hate them.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-25 12:05:57
July 25 2025 12:04 GMT
#659
Cure is at least even right now with serral even with the broodlords coming out, if he was executing better he could have won this game already, but Serral's multi task is just clearly a level above his right now.

Edit: nvm his economy is actually not great I thought he had more scvs
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1237 Posts
July 25 2025 12:05 GMT
#660
On July 25 2025 21:01 Elentos wrote:
Cure is playing really well up to a certain point where his execution just lets him down over and over again.

There have been Serral vs Cure series where Serral doesn't ever look in danger for a second. In this series Serral is looking in big trouble at times, but winning anyways. Not sure which is more demoralizing.
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