EPT[WTL 2024] Summer - Playoffs - Page 8
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HeroSandro
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Antithesis
Germany1190 Posts
On September 02 2024 02:42 Antithesis wrote: Fun prediction: TL vs. BASILISK was an exciting and hard-fought clan war, and now Serral just rolls through in the grand final. GG to BASILISK and Serral. | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1185 Posts
This guy :D | ||
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ktll4c91
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Waxangel
United States33420 Posts
On September 02 2024 03:22 Nakajin wrote: Yeah, I'd like more of a hybrid format at least. GG Basilisk and Serral! nah this format is proven over 4 years to be a good balance between individual strength and team depth when you look at who wins and HOW they win. if ppl are all killing in this format, it's cause they really earned it | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On September 02 2024 03:36 Waxangel wrote: nah this format is proven over 4 years to be a good balance between individual strength and team depth when you look at who wins and HOW they win. if ppl are all killing in this format, it's cause they really earned it Sc2 doesn't have enough player depth anymore for real teamleague formats anyway | ||
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HeroSandro
531 Posts
On September 02 2024 03:36 Waxangel wrote: nah this format is proven over 4 years to be a good balance between individual strength and team depth when you look at who wins and HOW they win. if ppl are all killing in this format, it's cause they really earned it Bo7 is a terrible format if we judge it based on GSL-finals 🙃 | ||
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Antithesis
Germany1190 Posts
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HeroSandro
531 Posts
On September 02 2024 03:39 Antithesis wrote: Haha, Serral having to return to the barracks right after sweeping Vitality. Weekend leave usually ends at 21.00. Hope he had that sorted out 😄 | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1185 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On September 02 2024 03:38 Durnuu wrote: Sc2 doesn't have enough player depth anymore for real teamleague formats anyway I disagree (obviously), the WTL is a great league, it create parity. The playoff format can produce banger (like it did in the semi or last season), but it can also produce duds. I'm just affraid it is a bit too much ace-centric. Anyway Basilisk beat Vitality in both format, so at least it's clear  | ||
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HeroSandro
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25538 Posts
On September 02 2024 03:50 Nakajin wrote: I disagree (obviously), the WTL is a great league, it create parity. The playoff format can produce banger (like it did in the semi or last season), but it can also produce duds. I'm just affraid it is a bit too much ace-centric. Anyway Basilisk beat Vitality in both format, so at least it's clear I quite like it for the likes of Nation’s League, it gives a bunch of weaker nations a shot to compete on that stage. Less so for a pro competition where one can alter their roster | ||
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PremoBeats
447 Posts
On September 02 2024 03:34 ktll4c91 wrote: Serral/Maru rivalry is a bit like Kobe/Lebron rivalry. People hyped it up when they were in their prime but they never faced off each other in that duration (except that showmatch in GvW 2018). Only difference is Kobe never got to face Lebron later on while Serral got to play against Maru when the latter has already fallen off massively. They played 3 times in 2018 and twice in 2020. I don't know what you consider Maru prime, but I agree that a big semi or final between the two in these years would have been much more interesting. I really like that back and forth between Serral and Clem in the past months/years. There was really no one who challenged him consistently that much since Reynor in his peak year. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15967 Posts
On September 02 2024 04:25 PremoBeats wrote: They played 3 times in 2018 and twice in 2020. I don't know what you consider Maru prime, but I agree that a big semi or final between the two in these years would have been much more interesting. Like at WESG? | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25538 Posts
How long ago was that? I can only assume what they meant was it would have been nice to have more Maru/Serral showdowns between the period where Maru was top dog, and Serral was I think most would echo that. Serral was still a relative newcomer as a top tier pro in 2017/18, Maru has had a longer span as a top player than anyone coming into 23/24 That they didn’t really play much between these dates is a real pity. I’ll happily wear my Serral #1 GOAT hat any day of the week, equally I don’t think him continually smacking Maru around now after years of the two of them not meeting really is all that representative | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
On September 02 2024 03:50 Nakajin wrote: I disagree (obviously), the WTL is a great league, it create parity. The playoff format can produce banger (like it did in the semi or last season), but it can also produce duds. I'm just affraid it is a bit too much ace-centric. Anyway Basilisk beat Vitality in both format, so at least it's clear I didn't mean it as a jab to WTL's format, although I can see why it reads that way. All I meant is by "real teamleague format" are the old Proleague bo7 format, with 6 different players on each team, and ace players only getting to play two bo1 at most. That took team depth that just doesn't exist and can't exist anymore. Even the lesser bo5 format still took at least 4 players. Imagine if you had 6 players on one team, you'd get almost half of code S players  | ||
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dysenterymd
1237 Posts
On September 02 2024 05:53 Durnuu wrote: I didn't mean it as a jab to WTL's format, although I can see why it reads that way. All I meant is by "real teamleague format" are the old Proleague bo7 format, with 6 different players on each team, and ace players only getting to play two bo1 at most. That took team depth that just doesn't exist and can't exist anymore. Even the lesser bo5 format still took at least 4 players. Imagine if you had 6 players on one team, you'd get almost half of code S players Honestly, I would love it if WTL went to the bo5 with 4 players format. With the partnership rules most teams could manage it. Vitality would need a partnership and Psistrom would probably pick up one more player, but it would absolutely be doable. WTL is great as is though, of course. | ||
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Perceivere
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Bennito_bh
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On September 02 2024 03:36 Waxangel wrote: nah this format is proven over 4 years to be a good balance between individual strength and team depth when you look at who wins and HOW they win. if ppl are all killing in this format, it's cause they really earned it Exactly! I'd have an issue with the format if it wasn't loser-picks-next-map, but with that thrown in it really feels like you have to dominate your opponent to get any 2-0s | ||
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