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Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden861 Posts
February 10 2024 18:54 GMT
#761
Well, atleast it went quick. Now for an epic TvT hopefully
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1923 Posts
February 10 2024 18:55 GMT
#762
Whoops, that was pretty one-sided.
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4417 Posts
February 10 2024 18:55 GMT
#763
It's too bad Astrea didn't get out of group C he would have been more competitive. Though the bigger tragedy is that group C was ever so weak to start with. Skillous probably wouldn't have even qualified for Kato without EU server being given so many slots.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 10 2024 18:56 GMT
#764
Dark was all over that one, brutal 3-0.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 10 2024 18:56 GMT
#765
On February 11 2024 03:54 Kreuger wrote:
Well, atleast it went quick. Now for an epic TvT hopefully


Gumiho vs Byun is usually fun, since they both are so stylistic and are so different from one another.

Then again, Cyclone meta has been polluting the match up in this tournament so it might be we get 3 games of that bullshit. Hopefully we don't, but it's lingering there like a fart.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden861 Posts
February 10 2024 18:58 GMT
#766
On February 11 2024 03:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 03:54 Kreuger wrote:
Well, atleast it went quick. Now for an epic TvT hopefully


Gumiho vs Byun is usually fun, since they both are so stylistic and are so different from one another.

Then again, Cyclone meta has been polluting the match up in this tournament so it might be we get 3 games of that bullshit. Hopefully we don't, but it's lingering there like a fart.


well, yeah. forgot about the cyclone-meta :/ .
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 10 2024 18:58 GMT
#767
On February 11 2024 03:55 JJH777 wrote:
It's too bad Astrea didn't get out of group C he would have been more competitive. Though the bigger tragedy is that group C was ever so weak to start with. Skillous probably wouldn't have even qualified for Kato without EU server being given so many slots.


I don't think Astrea would have done much better. Astrea's strength is his late game in PvZ and Dark loves to just kill Protoss before they ever get a chance.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic627 Posts
February 10 2024 19:01 GMT
#768
On February 11 2024 03:56 Nakajin wrote:
Dark was all over that one, brutal 3-0.


what can u expect from a race that do not have any weakness vs any kind of play?
How may help u?
BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic627 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-10 19:21:29
February 10 2024 19:05 GMT
#769
Zerg race is good at everything

Defending while Macro to 80+ drones
Recovering from bad positions and still ahead on workers
Tech Switching are very easy to do.
Scouting best race on the whole SC2 universe nothing surprise a zerg anymore.
Best race at dealing chip damage overtime and trading cost effective.
best spell casters vs anything lol

i mean. if you learn how to do a proper build you can win with this race.



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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26739 Posts
February 10 2024 19:09 GMT
#770
On February 11 2024 03:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 03:54 Kreuger wrote:
Well, atleast it went quick. Now for an epic TvT hopefully


Gumiho vs Byun is usually fun, since they both are so stylistic and are so different from one another.

Then again, Cyclone meta has been polluting the match up in this tournament so it might be we get 3 games of that bullshit. Hopefully we don't, but it's lingering there like a fart.

Has there been a worse deliberate patch change ever made?

Other changes have introduced worse metas, but often through the ingenuity of players gradually exploiting things that weren’t necessarily intended.

This series has the potential to be an incredible clash of styles so hope it isn’t cyclone wars. I think they’d be considerably better if you could only lock on manually (in this form) but alas
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-10 19:21:31
February 10 2024 19:17 GMT
#771
I play terran and I hate the new cyclone with all my heart.

Cyclones destroying TvT on the main stream rn

I have no idea what Gumiho is doing lol

Yay a marine tank game develops out of cyclone madness
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
February 10 2024 19:29 GMT
#772
IEM scheduling is structured so interestingly. It's basically a hybrid long-term prep/weekender tournament. To get out of group stage you have to be good at prepping for your group stage opponents (unless you're Serral in a weak group stage, but even Maru lost to Cyan), but then the playoff bracket is basically all stamina and raw strength starting with Ro12 right after group stage and Ro8 to final in a single day.
very illegal and very uncool
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
February 10 2024 19:29 GMT
#773
"I have more experience playing against you than you do" Kelazhur
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1236 Posts
February 10 2024 19:30 GMT
#774
On February 11 2024 04:09 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 03:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 11 2024 03:54 Kreuger wrote:
Well, atleast it went quick. Now for an epic TvT hopefully


Gumiho vs Byun is usually fun, since they both are so stylistic and are so different from one another.

Then again, Cyclone meta has been polluting the match up in this tournament so it might be we get 3 games of that bullshit. Hopefully we don't, but it's lingering there like a fart.

Has there been a worse deliberate patch change ever made?

Other changes have introduced worse metas, but often through the ingenuity of players gradually exploiting things that weren’t necessarily intended.

And the best (worst) part about the cyclone change is that it has been totally and utterly uncalled for.

Regardless of balance, there was absolutely no need to give Terran, out of all races, still another massable, versatile early game unit.
Mutation complete.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26739 Posts
February 10 2024 19:33 GMT
#775
On February 11 2024 04:29 argonautdice wrote:
IEM scheduling is structured so interestingly. It's basically a hybrid long-term prep/weekender tournament. To get out of group stage you have to be good at prepping for your group stage opponents (unless you're Serral in a weak group stage, but even Maru lost to Cyan), but then the playoff bracket is basically all stamina and raw strength starting with Ro12 right after group stage and Ro8 to final in a single day.

Aye it does test a bit of both elements, I do feel you could jig it around a bit though
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
February 10 2024 19:35 GMT
#776
Gotta thank Gumiho for providing a bit of spice to an otherwise massively boring matchup
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-10 19:35:55
February 10 2024 19:35 GMT
#777
On February 11 2024 04:29 argonautdice wrote:
IEM scheduling is structured so interestingly. It's basically a hybrid long-term prep/weekender tournament. To get out of group stage you have to be good at prepping for your group stage opponents (unless you're Serral in a weak group stage, but even Maru lost to Cyan), but then the playoff bracket is basically all stamina and raw strength starting with Ro12 right after group stage and Ro8 to final in a single day.


Oh and you get a bye if you get 1st out of the group round, so if you say were given an easy group in the group stages you get an easy advance to the Ro8 which means you get to skip all of the stamina tests until the final day.

And people wonder why I get so fucking annoyed when the groups are so lopsided.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
795 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-10 19:37:42
February 10 2024 19:35 GMT
#778
Many think this is why Zerg won so many weekenders compared to prep tournaments.
When it's all about stamina, the most stable/defensive/reactive race provides big benefits.
I.e. race A may be stronger than race B at 100% but weaker at 80% - and nobody plays at 100% at the end of a Bo5+Bo5+Bo7 marathon.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 10 2024 19:37 GMT
#779
Good old Gumibro
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10112 Posts
February 10 2024 19:45 GMT
#780
brutal but entertaining g2
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
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