• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:14
CET 20:14
KST 04:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)11Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns6[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Spontaneous hotkey change zerg Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1890 users

IEM Katowice 2024 - Page 39

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 37 38 39 40 41 94 Next
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden797 Posts
February 10 2024 18:54 GMT
#761
Well, atleast it went quick. Now for an epic TvT hopefully
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1921 Posts
February 10 2024 18:55 GMT
#762
Whoops, that was pretty one-sided.
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
February 10 2024 18:55 GMT
#763
It's too bad Astrea didn't get out of group C he would have been more competitive. Though the bigger tragedy is that group C was ever so weak to start with. Skillous probably wouldn't have even qualified for Kato without EU server being given so many slots.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 10 2024 18:56 GMT
#764
Dark was all over that one, brutal 3-0.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
February 10 2024 18:56 GMT
#765
On February 11 2024 03:54 Kreuger wrote:
Well, atleast it went quick. Now for an epic TvT hopefully


Gumiho vs Byun is usually fun, since they both are so stylistic and are so different from one another.

Then again, Cyclone meta has been polluting the match up in this tournament so it might be we get 3 games of that bullshit. Hopefully we don't, but it's lingering there like a fart.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden797 Posts
February 10 2024 18:58 GMT
#766
On February 11 2024 03:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 03:54 Kreuger wrote:
Well, atleast it went quick. Now for an epic TvT hopefully


Gumiho vs Byun is usually fun, since they both are so stylistic and are so different from one another.

Then again, Cyclone meta has been polluting the match up in this tournament so it might be we get 3 games of that bullshit. Hopefully we don't, but it's lingering there like a fart.


well, yeah. forgot about the cyclone-meta :/ .
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
February 10 2024 18:58 GMT
#767
On February 11 2024 03:55 JJH777 wrote:
It's too bad Astrea didn't get out of group C he would have been more competitive. Though the bigger tragedy is that group C was ever so weak to start with. Skillous probably wouldn't have even qualified for Kato without EU server being given so many slots.


I don't think Astrea would have done much better. Astrea's strength is his late game in PvZ and Dark loves to just kill Protoss before they ever get a chance.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic627 Posts
February 10 2024 19:01 GMT
#768
On February 11 2024 03:56 Nakajin wrote:
Dark was all over that one, brutal 3-0.


what can u expect from a race that do not have any weakness vs any kind of play?
How may help u?
BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic627 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-10 19:21:29
February 10 2024 19:05 GMT
#769
Zerg race is good at everything

Defending while Macro to 80+ drones
Recovering from bad positions and still ahead on workers
Tech Switching are very easy to do.
Scouting best race on the whole SC2 universe nothing surprise a zerg anymore.
Best race at dealing chip damage overtime and trading cost effective.
best spell casters vs anything lol

i mean. if you learn how to do a proper build you can win with this race.



User was warned for this post.
How may help u?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
February 10 2024 19:09 GMT
#770
On February 11 2024 03:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 03:54 Kreuger wrote:
Well, atleast it went quick. Now for an epic TvT hopefully


Gumiho vs Byun is usually fun, since they both are so stylistic and are so different from one another.

Then again, Cyclone meta has been polluting the match up in this tournament so it might be we get 3 games of that bullshit. Hopefully we don't, but it's lingering there like a fart.

Has there been a worse deliberate patch change ever made?

Other changes have introduced worse metas, but often through the ingenuity of players gradually exploiting things that weren’t necessarily intended.

This series has the potential to be an incredible clash of styles so hope it isn’t cyclone wars. I think they’d be considerably better if you could only lock on manually (in this form) but alas
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-10 19:21:31
February 10 2024 19:17 GMT
#771
I play terran and I hate the new cyclone with all my heart.

Cyclones destroying TvT on the main stream rn

I have no idea what Gumiho is doing lol

Yay a marine tank game develops out of cyclone madness
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
February 10 2024 19:29 GMT
#772
IEM scheduling is structured so interestingly. It's basically a hybrid long-term prep/weekender tournament. To get out of group stage you have to be good at prepping for your group stage opponents (unless you're Serral in a weak group stage, but even Maru lost to Cyan), but then the playoff bracket is basically all stamina and raw strength starting with Ro12 right after group stage and Ro8 to final in a single day.
very illegal and very uncool
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
February 10 2024 19:29 GMT
#773
"I have more experience playing against you than you do" Kelazhur
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1215 Posts
February 10 2024 19:30 GMT
#774
On February 11 2024 04:09 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 03:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 11 2024 03:54 Kreuger wrote:
Well, atleast it went quick. Now for an epic TvT hopefully


Gumiho vs Byun is usually fun, since they both are so stylistic and are so different from one another.

Then again, Cyclone meta has been polluting the match up in this tournament so it might be we get 3 games of that bullshit. Hopefully we don't, but it's lingering there like a fart.

Has there been a worse deliberate patch change ever made?

Other changes have introduced worse metas, but often through the ingenuity of players gradually exploiting things that weren’t necessarily intended.

And the best (worst) part about the cyclone change is that it has been totally and utterly uncalled for.

Regardless of balance, there was absolutely no need to give Terran, out of all races, still another massable, versatile early game unit.
Mutation complete.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
February 10 2024 19:33 GMT
#775
On February 11 2024 04:29 argonautdice wrote:
IEM scheduling is structured so interestingly. It's basically a hybrid long-term prep/weekender tournament. To get out of group stage you have to be good at prepping for your group stage opponents (unless you're Serral in a weak group stage, but even Maru lost to Cyan), but then the playoff bracket is basically all stamina and raw strength starting with Ro12 right after group stage and Ro8 to final in a single day.

Aye it does test a bit of both elements, I do feel you could jig it around a bit though
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
February 10 2024 19:35 GMT
#776
Gotta thank Gumiho for providing a bit of spice to an otherwise massively boring matchup
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-10 19:35:55
February 10 2024 19:35 GMT
#777
On February 11 2024 04:29 argonautdice wrote:
IEM scheduling is structured so interestingly. It's basically a hybrid long-term prep/weekender tournament. To get out of group stage you have to be good at prepping for your group stage opponents (unless you're Serral in a weak group stage, but even Maru lost to Cyan), but then the playoff bracket is basically all stamina and raw strength starting with Ro12 right after group stage and Ro8 to final in a single day.


Oh and you get a bye if you get 1st out of the group round, so if you say were given an easy group in the group stages you get an easy advance to the Ro8 which means you get to skip all of the stamina tests until the final day.

And people wonder why I get so fucking annoyed when the groups are so lopsided.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
780 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-10 19:37:42
February 10 2024 19:35 GMT
#778
Many think this is why Zerg won so many weekenders compared to prep tournaments.
When it's all about stamina, the most stable/defensive/reactive race provides big benefits.
I.e. race A may be stronger than race B at 100% but weaker at 80% - and nobody plays at 100% at the end of a Bo5+Bo5+Bo7 marathon.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 10 2024 19:37 GMT
#779
Good old Gumibro
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10101 Posts
February 10 2024 19:45 GMT
#780
brutal but entertaining g2
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Prev 1 37 38 39 40 41 94 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 46m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 154
Railgan 82
SC2Nice 63
StarCraft: Brood War
Dewaltoss 138
Dota 2
qojqva3975
420jenkins194
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
fl0m10045
pashabiceps1400
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King45
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu393
Khaldor254
Other Games
FrodaN5301
Grubby4625
Liquid`RaSZi2830
B2W.Neo830
Beastyqt628
trigger402
Harstem392
mouzStarbuck373
KnowMe160
ArmadaUGS130
Ketroc8
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick4544
EGCTV1076
StarCraft 2
angryscii 25
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 14
• HerbMon 12
• Michael_bg 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• HappyZerGling81
Other Games
• imaqtpie1902
• Shiphtur475
Upcoming Events
IPSL
46m
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
13h 46m
Wardi Open
18h 46m
Monday Night Weeklies
21h 46m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 16h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
OSC
3 days
OSC
4 days
All Star Teams
5 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
All Star Teams
6 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-10
Big Gabe Cup #3
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Proleague 2026-01-11
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.