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Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1281 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-10 19:46:11
February 10 2024 19:46 GMT
#781
Isn't it nice? Should Serral win the whole thing, we already have so much copium why it doesn't matter: Zerg is OP (but only in EU), he had an easy group, he skipped one round of Bo5s which makes up for a huge skillgap, he even is on the topside of the bracket (so more time to regenerate before the finals!) and of course if EU hadn't has so many qualifying slot more koreans would be there and he totally wouldn't have won then because of reasons.
And atleast half of these can be applied to Clem aswell, so even more copium!

In more relevant news: Nice to see ByuN on fire! Hope his wrists holds!
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
February 10 2024 19:48 GMT
#782
On February 11 2024 04:37 Nakajin wrote:
Good old Gumibro

He needs to stop being a Gumibro and turn into the Gumigod
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-10 19:49:49
February 10 2024 19:48 GMT
#783
On February 11 2024 04:46 Balnazza wrote:
Isn't it nice? Should Serral win the whole thing, we already have so much copium why it doesn't matter: Zerg is OP (but only in EU), he had an easy group, he skipped one round of Bo5s which makes up for a huge skillgap, he even is on the topside of the bracket (so more time to regenerate before the finals!) and of course if EU hadn't has so many qualifying slot more koreans would be there and he totally wouldn't have won then because of reasons.
And atleast half of these can be applied to Clem aswell, so even more copium!

In more relevant news: Nice to see ByuN on fire! Hope his wrists holds!


Would be nice if Serral won a major tournament where he didn't have such a big advantage every step of the way, but he's Serral so he's entitled to those advantages right?

It's not that Serral wins ONE tournament where he gets favorable group draws and easier qualifiers it's that seemingly every tournament is like that for him. Must be nice to have such consistent luck.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
February 10 2024 19:50 GMT
#784
On February 11 2024 04:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 04:29 argonautdice wrote:
IEM scheduling is structured so interestingly. It's basically a hybrid long-term prep/weekender tournament. To get out of group stage you have to be good at prepping for your group stage opponents (unless you're Serral in a weak group stage, but even Maru lost to Cyan), but then the playoff bracket is basically all stamina and raw strength starting with Ro12 right after group stage and Ro8 to final in a single day.


Oh and you get a bye if you get 1st out of the group round, so if you say were given an easy group in the group stages you get an easy advance to the Ro8 which means you get to skip all of the stamina tests until the final day.

And people wonder why I get so fucking annoyed when the groups are so lopsided.

Just play like Dark and get lucky and destroy your Ro12 opponent 3-0 quickly in 45minutes.
very illegal and very uncool
Zergiica
Profile Joined October 2015
Croatia128 Posts
February 10 2024 19:52 GMT
#785
well, swiss format is the best one and serral just walked over everybody. he is simply the best player in the world and that is it. older guys can't compete and there is no new blood. and yeah, there is that one guy that is scared to play offline so that is it, we have to hope time will do it's own thing as it did with everyone.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 10 2024 19:53 GMT
#786
On February 11 2024 04:50 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 04:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 11 2024 04:29 argonautdice wrote:
IEM scheduling is structured so interestingly. It's basically a hybrid long-term prep/weekender tournament. To get out of group stage you have to be good at prepping for your group stage opponents (unless you're Serral in a weak group stage, but even Maru lost to Cyan), but then the playoff bracket is basically all stamina and raw strength starting with Ro12 right after group stage and Ro8 to final in a single day.


Oh and you get a bye if you get 1st out of the group round, so if you say were given an easy group in the group stages you get an easy advance to the Ro8 which means you get to skip all of the stamina tests until the final day.

And people wonder why I get so fucking annoyed when the groups are so lopsided.

Just play like Dark and get lucky and destroy your Ro12 opponent 3-0 quickly in 45minutes.


That would be a valid point if Dark's opponent wasn't the other beneficiary of the lopsided group draws. I strongly strongly doubt Skillous would have advanced from any of the other groups. Group C was by far the easiest group in the pool this year.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Glorfindelio
Profile Joined October 2022
223 Posts
February 10 2024 19:53 GMT
#787
On February 11 2024 04:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 04:46 Balnazza wrote:
Isn't it nice? Should Serral win the whole thing, we already have so much copium why it doesn't matter: Zerg is OP (but only in EU), he had an easy group, he skipped one round of Bo5s which makes up for a huge skillgap, he even is on the topside of the bracket (so more time to regenerate before the finals!) and of course if EU hadn't has so many qualifying slot more koreans would be there and he totally wouldn't have won then because of reasons.
And atleast half of these can be applied to Clem aswell, so even more copium!

In more relevant news: Nice to see ByuN on fire! Hope his wrists holds!


Would be nice if Serral won a major tournament where he didn't have such a big advantage every step of the way, but he's Serral so he's entitled to those advantages right?

It's not that Serral wins ONE tournament where he gets favorable group draws and easier qualifiers it's that seemingly every tournament is like that for him. Must be nice to have such consistent luck.


He literally just beat Solar, Maru, Reynor and HerO during his last tournament run. If he manages to win here, he'll have to go through (likely) Clem, Dark and Maru. More likely than not someone else ultimately claims victory anyways, so maybe save your whining already?
Nasigil
Profile Joined July 2023
137 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-10 19:58:42
February 10 2024 19:54 GMT
#788
Serral literally just won a premier tournament a week ago by 3-0 Solar, 3-0 Maru, 4-0 Reynor and 5-1 herO, and there are people here try to argue he wouldn't do so well in tournament if he get's a slightly tougher group assignment.

The amount of salt and copium here is honestly amusing.

edit: realized there's someone saying the exact same thing as me right above, oh well, my points stands.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10112 Posts
February 10 2024 19:57 GMT
#789
gumi came back from the death
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
February 10 2024 19:57 GMT
#790
I don't begrudge Serral anything, he is an amazing player and he earns whatever he gets, its not like there isn't other strong players. Protoss needs some help thats for sure, I don't believe that all the Terran and Zerg players are better, even before Zest/Trap went to the military they winning very few tournaments.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 10 2024 19:58 GMT
#791
On February 11 2024 04:53 Glorfindelio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 04:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 11 2024 04:46 Balnazza wrote:
Isn't it nice? Should Serral win the whole thing, we already have so much copium why it doesn't matter: Zerg is OP (but only in EU), he had an easy group, he skipped one round of Bo5s which makes up for a huge skillgap, he even is on the topside of the bracket (so more time to regenerate before the finals!) and of course if EU hadn't has so many qualifying slot more koreans would be there and he totally wouldn't have won then because of reasons.
And atleast half of these can be applied to Clem aswell, so even more copium!

In more relevant news: Nice to see ByuN on fire! Hope his wrists holds!


Would be nice if Serral won a major tournament where he didn't have such a big advantage every step of the way, but he's Serral so he's entitled to those advantages right?

It's not that Serral wins ONE tournament where he gets favorable group draws and easier qualifiers it's that seemingly every tournament is like that for him. Must be nice to have such consistent luck.


He literally just beat Solar, Maru, Reynor and HerO during his last tournament run. If he manages to win here, he'll have to go through (likely) Clem, Dark and Maru. More likely than not someone else ultimately claims victory anyways, so maybe save your whining already?


Which he'll do all on the last day. Did you not read my post? Serral got a free pass to the last day of the tournament. That was what I said the advantage was. Oh cool he has to win 3 real matches to win a premiere tournament title, that's so impressive, it clearly justifies ignoring how big of a headstart he got thanks to faulty tournament planning.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Nasigil
Profile Joined July 2023
137 Posts
February 10 2024 20:00 GMT
#792
On February 11 2024 04:58 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 04:53 Glorfindelio wrote:
On February 11 2024 04:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 11 2024 04:46 Balnazza wrote:
Isn't it nice? Should Serral win the whole thing, we already have so much copium why it doesn't matter: Zerg is OP (but only in EU), he had an easy group, he skipped one round of Bo5s which makes up for a huge skillgap, he even is on the topside of the bracket (so more time to regenerate before the finals!) and of course if EU hadn't has so many qualifying slot more koreans would be there and he totally wouldn't have won then because of reasons.
And atleast half of these can be applied to Clem aswell, so even more copium!

In more relevant news: Nice to see ByuN on fire! Hope his wrists holds!


Would be nice if Serral won a major tournament where he didn't have such a big advantage every step of the way, but he's Serral so he's entitled to those advantages right?

It's not that Serral wins ONE tournament where he gets favorable group draws and easier qualifiers it's that seemingly every tournament is like that for him. Must be nice to have such consistent luck.


He literally just beat Solar, Maru, Reynor and HerO during his last tournament run. If he manages to win here, he'll have to go through (likely) Clem, Dark and Maru. More likely than not someone else ultimately claims victory anyways, so maybe save your whining already?


Which he'll do all on the last day. Did you not read my post? Serral got a free pass to the last day of the tournament. That was what I said the advantage was. Oh cool he has to win 3 real matches to win a premiere tournament title, that's so impressive, it clearly justifies ignoring how big of a headstart he got thanks to faulty tournament planning.


It was a Swiss format tournament so everyone was equal and Maru actually did better in the group stage than Serral. Well guess what he immediatley got swept by Serral in upper bracket semifinals. You wanna blame that on tournament format?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
February 10 2024 20:01 GMT
#793
I need Wolf to tell me whether ByuN is tilted
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-10 20:01:43
February 10 2024 20:01 GMT
#794
Can we at least keep the Serral-hating for when he's playing?

On February 11 2024 05:01 Zaros wrote:
Does the screen keep stuttering for everyone else during this series?

Don't think i'm lagging and the commentary caries on.


Seems fine to me
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
February 10 2024 20:01 GMT
#795
Does the screen keep stuttering for everyone else during this series?

Don't think i'm lagging and the commentary caries on.
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
536 Posts
February 10 2024 20:01 GMT
#796
I remember there was a time when Maru got to pick his gsl group multiple times and make sure he had the easiest way to the playoffs 🙃
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 10 2024 20:02 GMT
#797
On February 11 2024 05:00 Nasigil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 04:58 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 11 2024 04:53 Glorfindelio wrote:
On February 11 2024 04:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 11 2024 04:46 Balnazza wrote:
Isn't it nice? Should Serral win the whole thing, we already have so much copium why it doesn't matter: Zerg is OP (but only in EU), he had an easy group, he skipped one round of Bo5s which makes up for a huge skillgap, he even is on the topside of the bracket (so more time to regenerate before the finals!) and of course if EU hadn't has so many qualifying slot more koreans would be there and he totally wouldn't have won then because of reasons.
And atleast half of these can be applied to Clem aswell, so even more copium!

In more relevant news: Nice to see ByuN on fire! Hope his wrists holds!


Would be nice if Serral won a major tournament where he didn't have such a big advantage every step of the way, but he's Serral so he's entitled to those advantages right?

It's not that Serral wins ONE tournament where he gets favorable group draws and easier qualifiers it's that seemingly every tournament is like that for him. Must be nice to have such consistent luck.


He literally just beat Solar, Maru, Reynor and HerO during his last tournament run. If he manages to win here, he'll have to go through (likely) Clem, Dark and Maru. More likely than not someone else ultimately claims victory anyways, so maybe save your whining already?


Which he'll do all on the last day. Did you not read my post? Serral got a free pass to the last day of the tournament. That was what I said the advantage was. Oh cool he has to win 3 real matches to win a premiere tournament title, that's so impressive, it clearly justifies ignoring how big of a headstart he got thanks to faulty tournament planning.


It was a Swiss format tournament so everyone was equal and Maru actually did better in the group stage than Serral. Well guess what he immediatley got swept by Serral in upper bracket semifinals. You wanna blame that on tournament format?


I'm talking about this tournament, not the Swiss tournaments. It's this tournament's egregiously lopsided group stage that I'm complaining about. I don't know what the rest of you guys think the issue is.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden860 Posts
February 10 2024 20:03 GMT
#798
On February 11 2024 05:01 Zaros wrote:
Does the screen keep stuttering for everyone else during this series?

Don't think i'm lagging and the commentary caries on.


Yeah, alot of complaints regarding this last map
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17729 Posts
February 10 2024 20:03 GMT
#799
On February 11 2024 05:01 Durnuu wrote:
I need Wolf to tell me whether ByuN is tilted

and what about his hair
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 10 2024 20:04 GMT
#800
On February 11 2024 05:03 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2024 05:01 Durnuu wrote:
I need Wolf to tell me whether ByuN is tilted

and what about his hair


Speaking of hair, I need Wolf's opinion Reynor's hair.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
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