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[WTL 2023] Master's Coliseum 7 - Playoffs - Page 5

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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
January 26 2024 14:12 GMT
#81
Considering all 4 of Maru Reynor Dark herO are in the same group in IEM, it wont be a shocking things if they are saving their best builds for later. Having said that, getting no scout against early Roach and die 3 times to it in a match is just poor execution rather than hiding builds imo.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-26 18:37:14
January 26 2024 15:25 GMT
#82
Collosal throw by Maru. He was cruising in that game but just refused to remake his wall??

But well done to Dark for winning his 3rd game 7, he's now 3/12 (fixed) all time in premier events
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18219 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-26 15:36:04
January 26 2024 15:35 GMT
#83
Maru looked happier losing than Dark did winning. Maybe the throw was intentional?
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
January 26 2024 15:54 GMT
#84
Like I said, he probably doesnt want to show too much information to Dark-herO-Reynor, all are opponents in the same IEM group. That still make it hard to swallow how he botched the defense against early Roach pressure 3 games, its like how he lost to Oliveira in the final last year, fail Tank drop into more fail tank drop. But hey, lets hope he actually saving his best for later.
lokol4890
Profile Joined May 2023
114 Posts
January 26 2024 16:37 GMT
#85
On January 27 2024 00:35 Acrofales wrote:
Maru looked happier losing than Dark did winning. Maybe the throw was intentional?


From what I've seen maru for the most part looks happier when losing than winning. He honestly may just be trying stuff. Beat both serral and dark in groups playing super fast. Then in the playoffs started trying different builds against serral. Tbh if I were him I wouldn't be showing all my builds or playing as fast as I can in two BO7s against Dark and Reynor and a BO9 against serral. Especially since iirc at the beginning of the tournament he still had the sling on his arm
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-26 17:26:33
January 26 2024 17:25 GMT
#86
On January 27 2024 00:25 Fango wrote:
Collosal throw by Maru. He was cruising in that game but just refused to remake his wall??

But well done to Dark for winning his 3rd game 7, he's now 3/11 all time

Wait, I thought the previous 2/11 you were quoting was only for premier finals, no?

Actually, searching through it now, Aligulac says he's 8-12 in Bo7 (search http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=Dark 76&event=&bestof=5&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= for "3-4" and "4-3")

The difference is that in the 3-4 category he has 2 Ro4s and 2 pig events, the remaining 8 being premier finals, while in the 4-3 category the only premier win is the 4-3 over Maru in DH Valencia. So he's 8-12 in Bo7, but only 1-8 in premier finals
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-26 18:37:26
January 26 2024 18:26 GMT
#87
On January 27 2024 02:25 yubo56 wrote:
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On January 27 2024 00:25 Fango wrote:
Collosal throw by Maru. He was cruising in that game but just refused to remake his wall??

But well done to Dark for winning his 3rd game 7, he's now 3/11 all time

Wait, I thought the previous 2/11 you were quoting was only for premier finals, no?

Actually, searching through it now, Aligulac says he's 8-12 in Bo7 (search http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=Dark 76&event=&bestof=5&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= for "3-4" and "4-3")

The difference is that in the 3-4 category he has 2 Ro4s and 2 pig events, the remaining 8 being premier finals, while in the 4-3 category the only premier win is the 4-3 over Maru in DH Valencia. So he's 8-12 in Bo7, but only 1-8 in premier finals

I should clarify, it was just game 7s in premier events, not just finals. Including the one game 7 he played in proleague (which was one of the biggest games of his career), it's 3/12.

His only game 7 wins in premier events are SSL 2016 ro4 vs Classic, DH Valencia vs Maru, and this win today.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
January 27 2024 08:23 GMT
#88
I've always found the "he lost on purpose to save his builds for XYZ" argument to be the absolute silliest made up excuse parroted on the forums since nearly the dawn of SC2. Sometimes your favorite player just didn't play as well as the other one that day.

Feel free to quote this and shame me if Maru comes into IEM with the most earth-shattering, meta-revolutionizing builds in the coming weeks, but as of right now, I remain skeptical.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-27 08:46:46
January 27 2024 08:46 GMT
#89
On January 27 2024 17:23 Kitai wrote:
I've always found the "he lost on purpose to save his builds for XYZ" argument to be the absolute silliest made up excuse parroted on the forums since nearly the dawn of SC2. Sometimes your favorite player just didn't play as well as the other one that day.

Feel free to quote this and shame me if Maru comes into IEM with the most earth-shattering, meta-revolutionizing builds in the coming weeks, but as of right now, I remain skeptical.

Aye, I don’t doubt players will pocket builds for Katowice, but that likely includes the whole field.

Mary didn’t really do anything funky in groups and took some good scalps. Then likewise in playoffs and dropped out.

Aside from anything else if there’s a T player aside from Clem whose approach is less in bespoke builds and more ‘I’ll play straight up and outplay you’ it’s surely Maru anyway.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
January 27 2024 08:54 GMT
#90
I am excited for herO today, hopefully he prevents too many ZvZ by at least beating Dark
WriterMaru
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
784 Posts
January 27 2024 10:31 GMT
#91
Don't worry, it will be only two ZvZ in a row, not "many".
Oh wait, two is alreayd too many.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
January 27 2024 11:29 GMT
#92
come on Dark...
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
January 27 2024 11:46 GMT
#93
Unless Dark can just Roach rush Maru again in IEM, he will be in so much trouble, looked outclassed by Maru herO and Reynor completely.
Locutus_
Profile Joined August 2023
Brazil65 Posts
January 27 2024 12:19 GMT
#94
It would be so cool to have herO in the finals
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
January 27 2024 12:42 GMT
#95
how does herO make such sloppy mistakes sometimes while still kicking ass? lol
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Ciaus237
Profile Joined July 2015
South Africa287 Posts
January 27 2024 12:43 GMT
#96
On January 27 2024 21:19 Locutus_ wrote:
It would be so cool to have herO in the finals


With how herO has played his last 3 or 4 games, no it wouldn't
The time that we kill keeps us alive
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
January 27 2024 12:52 GMT
#97
lol the triple stasis attempt
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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3128 Posts
January 27 2024 13:27 GMT
#98
On January 27 2024 21:42 Die4Ever wrote:
how does herO make such sloppy mistakes sometimes while still kicking ass? lol

As this series v. Reynor demonstrates, herO is the undisputed master of snatching defeat from victory from defeat. And occasionally victory from defeat from victory from defeat. Yeah.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
January 27 2024 13:39 GMT
#99
On January 27 2024 22:27 Captain Peabody wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2024 21:42 Die4Ever wrote:
how does herO make such sloppy mistakes sometimes while still kicking ass? lol

As this series v. Reynor demonstrates, herO is the undisputed master of snatching defeat from victory from defeat. And occasionally victory from defeat from victory from defeat. Yeah.

Being a fan and a Toss lad man it can be painful but at least it’s almost always entertainingly so
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-27 13:49:23
January 27 2024 13:48 GMT
#100
herO already in firing range of the enemy units: blinks forwards instead of using blink to keep individual stalkers alive...

we need Parting to start playing in these tournaments
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