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[WTL 2023] Master's Coliseum 7 - Playoffs - Page 9

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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
January 28 2024 12:37 GMT
#161
At least this one would be quick, save us all the time, although the pain is worse.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
January 28 2024 12:42 GMT
#162
Now I wanna see herO come back with only adept and immortal all-ins, neo-Soul train style
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-28 12:42:43
January 28 2024 12:42 GMT
#163
On January 28 2024 21:32 Die4Ever wrote:
alright time for the reverse sweep, pretty sure we've never seen a reverse sweep in a bo9 before lol

Sjow reverse swept Socke in a bo9 in IPL Fight Club, though of course that is pretty low-profile.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4965 Posts
January 28 2024 13:04 GMT
#164
This was a very rough series from herO
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Locutus_
Profile Joined August 2023
Brazil65 Posts
January 28 2024 13:05 GMT
#165
The GOAT strikes again
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4965 Posts
January 28 2024 13:06 GMT
#166
On January 28 2024 22:05 Locutus_ wrote:
The GOAT strikes again



I think people needs to understand that GOAT != current best player
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-28 13:09:03
January 28 2024 13:08 GMT
#167
On January 28 2024 22:06 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2024 22:05 Locutus_ wrote:
The GOAT strikes again



I think people needs to understand that GOAT != current best player

I think people need to Stop bringing Up the goat stuff every fucking Tournament serral or Maru do very Well or very Bad (for their Standards) in, its Just annoying af.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
January 28 2024 13:14 GMT
#168
Well, thats how they are, Serral/Maru won its GOAT, when they lose its excuses, and I am guilty of that as well. Anyway, looking great for Serral into IEM, but I am more excited for that group D now, all 4 guys looking busted AF, although Dark has trouble winning macro game.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
January 28 2024 13:16 GMT
#169
On January 28 2024 22:14 tigera6 wrote:
Well, thats how they are, Serral/Maru won its GOAT, when they lose its excuses, and I am guilty of that as well. Anyway, looking great for Serral into IEM, but I am more excited for that group D now, all 4 guys looking busted AF, although Dark has trouble winning macro game.

I still hate group D because i want Them all in the Playoffs now.
Nasigil
Profile Joined July 2023
137 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-28 13:23:14
January 28 2024 13:22 GMT
#170
After the legendary G7 against Reynor yesterday I expected herO to put up a bit of a better fight against Serral than what it was today ... but sadly it was very one sided.

I guess Serral is just that much better than every other Zerg out there in ZvP. He doesn't make mistakes. If you don't play 100% perfect as well you have no chance to win.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
January 28 2024 13:33 GMT
#171
On January 28 2024 22:22 Nasigil wrote:
After the legendary G7 against Reynor yesterday I expected herO to put up a bit of a better fight against Serral than what it was today ... but sadly it was very one sided.

I guess Serral is just that much better than every other Zerg out there in ZvP. He doesn't make mistakes. If you don't play 100% perfect as well you have no chance to win.

If He didnt do mistakes herO would have been never able to throw g3 as hard as He did, serral Just knows what He Has to do to win and Well in Games Like that herO let him.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4965 Posts
January 28 2024 13:47 GMT
#172
On January 28 2024 22:33 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2024 22:22 Nasigil wrote:
After the legendary G7 against Reynor yesterday I expected herO to put up a bit of a better fight against Serral than what it was today ... but sadly it was very one sided.

I guess Serral is just that much better than every other Zerg out there in ZvP. He doesn't make mistakes. If you don't play 100% perfect as well you have no chance to win.

If He didnt do mistakes herO would have been never able to throw g3 as hard as He did, serral Just knows what He Has to do to win and Well in Games Like that herO let him.



usually comebacks are a mixbag of mistakes done by the player in the winning position and amazing/clever plays done by the player in the losing position. That game 3 however was none of it. Serral didnt do anything at all. herO was just so passive he let serral fully recover . Which why that was a throw and not a comeback
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Locutus_
Profile Joined August 2023
Brazil65 Posts
January 28 2024 14:14 GMT
#173
On January 28 2024 22:06 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2024 22:05 Locutus_ wrote:
The GOAT strikes again



I think people needs to understand that GOAT != current best player


current best player for 6 years? Half the life of SCII? Thats current for you?
Locutus_
Profile Joined August 2023
Brazil65 Posts
January 28 2024 14:18 GMT
#174
On January 28 2024 22:14 tigera6 wrote:
Well, thats how they are, Serral/Maru won its GOAT, when they lose its excuses, and I am guilty of that as well. Anyway, looking great for Serral into IEM, but I am more excited for that group D now, all 4 guys looking busted AF, although Dark has trouble winning macro game.


You annoy yourself easily.

OFC we are bringing up the GOAT subject when a GOAT contender wins a tournament.... Its not like its every weekend it happens
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
January 28 2024 14:23 GMT
#175
On January 28 2024 23:14 Locutus_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2024 22:06 Argonauta wrote:
On January 28 2024 22:05 Locutus_ wrote:
The GOAT strikes again



I think people needs to understand that GOAT != current best player


current best player for 6 years? Half the life of SCII? Thats current for you?

How many world title has he won in those 6 years? Counting Blizzcon/IEM/WESG/Gamers. This is not Tiger Woods mopping the field, or Federer beating everyone outside of Nadal in French Open. Hes the most consistent players, but he has had moment of slip up and "choke" as well. People giving Maru a harsh time, deservingly so, for blowing the Final against Oliveira, but nobody bringing up how Serral lost to Ragnarok after IEM, like thats just a bad nightmare and never happened before.
Winning MC is great, but thats not making his GOAT case that more impressive, cause he has won so many of it already. Maru won 7 GSL and at this point another 1-2 GSL won doesnt matter to most us. We all want to see them winning the next IEM-type tournament and will give them a flower when that happen.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
January 28 2024 14:27 GMT
#176
On January 28 2024 23:18 Locutus_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2024 22:14 tigera6 wrote:
Well, thats how they are, Serral/Maru won its GOAT, when they lose its excuses, and I am guilty of that as well. Anyway, looking great for Serral into IEM, but I am more excited for that group D now, all 4 guys looking busted AF, although Dark has trouble winning macro game.


You annoy yourself easily.

OFC we are bringing up the GOAT subject when a GOAT contender wins a tournament.... Its not like its every weekend it happens

Read my response above, I would never call Maru GOAT even if he win 2-3 more GSL/ESL, he need to win IEM/Gamers8 to make his case in view. But thats just me.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
January 28 2024 14:30 GMT
#177
On January 28 2024 23:18 Locutus_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2024 22:14 tigera6 wrote:
Well, thats how they are, Serral/Maru won its GOAT, when they lose its excuses, and I am guilty of that as well. Anyway, looking great for Serral into IEM, but I am more excited for that group D now, all 4 guys looking busted AF, although Dark has trouble winning macro game.


You annoy yourself easily.

OFC we are bringing up the GOAT subject when a GOAT contender wins a tournament.... Its not like its every weekend it happens

No i annoy myself at These Low Level bait Posts that add nothing to any discussion in Here, If the only contribution you have to These threads is the goat stuff please keep it in the goat Threads.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 28 2024 15:05 GMT
#178
Reynor, Maru, and Clem have chances against Serral but that's about it.

I don't see protoss being able to without lucky builds and doing that in a bo9 isn't happening.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
January 28 2024 15:19 GMT
#179
On January 29 2024 00:05 Fango wrote:
Reynor, Maru, and Clem have chances against Serral but that's about it.

I don't see protoss being able to without lucky builds and doing that in a bo9 isn't happening.

Feels a Bit Like 2018 pvz again, toss is in a competitive Spot zerg is somewhat Stronger in the late lategames and serral is very good at those and very good at getting there.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18219 Posts
January 28 2024 15:31 GMT
#180
On January 28 2024 22:47 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2024 22:33 darklycid wrote:
On January 28 2024 22:22 Nasigil wrote:
After the legendary G7 against Reynor yesterday I expected herO to put up a bit of a better fight against Serral than what it was today ... but sadly it was very one sided.

I guess Serral is just that much better than every other Zerg out there in ZvP. He doesn't make mistakes. If you don't play 100% perfect as well you have no chance to win.

If He didnt do mistakes herO would have been never able to throw g3 as hard as He did, serral Just knows what He Has to do to win and Well in Games Like that herO let him.



usually comebacks are a mixbag of mistakes done by the player in the winning position and amazing/clever plays done by the player in the losing position. That game 3 however was none of it. Serral didnt do anything at all. herO was just so passive he let serral fully recover . Which why that was a throw and not a comeback

I don't think that's a fair assessment either. I mean, yes, herO could've attacked at any point before Serral had a bunch of infestors and even ultras out and just crushed. But Serral's fight with infestors and hydras and 2 ultras was extremely good, and he had to put himself in that position. Then the whole go full BL + infestors should NEVER have worked, but for some reason *that* was when herO went full tunnel vision on attacking instead of just pulling back and eating the whole map. It's fair that herO clutched defeat out of the jaws of victory there, but it's not like Serral just sat back and let it happen. After his failed all-in he took every opportunity he was given to claw his way back into the game.
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