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[WTL 2023] Master's Coliseum 7 - Playoffs - Page 2

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Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1262 Posts
January 23 2024 20:54 GMT
#21
On January 23 2024 20:51 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2024 20:38 digmouse wrote:
On January 23 2024 20:36 Argonauta wrote:
On January 23 2024 20:33 Kreuger wrote:
On January 23 2024 20:27 Argonauta wrote:
On January 23 2024 20:15 Kreuger wrote:
On January 23 2024 19:45 Argonauta wrote:
I am really puzzled why there was no bo3 seed matches to decide between 1 and 2 ; 3 and 4 etc. it wouldn't not have been much extra to add one of those each day. No?


Why? Whats wrong with how its decided now?


Maru and herO share the top 1. Serral/Reynor share position 3. Nothing wrong with that, as they go to different sides of the table. But its more arbitrary than playing those placement bo3 matches and having a clear 1, 2, 3.... etc.


Well, the spots are decided clearly by the rules. Cant see the meaning of adding more.


Are they? then how it comes there are 2 No1? (it coudl also be thatl iquipedia is wrong.... but i doubt so)

herO and Maru are tied after map differential and head to head, so they were seeded randomly (between their 1st and 2nd slots I believe) per the rules, Maru got the 1st seed slot, herO got the 2nd place one.


and serral and reynor and solar and maxpax. My point was that making seeding matches will avoid coinflips. Thats all


Before you do seeding matches, you could also do Buchholz-score first to seed
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Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden819 Posts
January 24 2024 12:18 GMT
#22
4-0 Dark. Didnt see the games, close or onesided?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
January 24 2024 12:41 GMT
#23
If Maxpax played offline protoss would have won more tournaments for sure
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yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
January 24 2024 13:35 GMT
#24
I think dark vs MP historically is pretty even, Dark just got a lot of good BOs this series, whether that's prep or luck idk. Maybe prep, since herO also had a very well-prepped series vs MP from earlier, so maybe the DKZ boys chatted a bit? But drawing +1 melee mass ling vs stargate into blink is such a strong scenario to be in
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yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
January 24 2024 13:45 GMT
#25
On January 24 2024 21:18 Kreuger wrote:
4-0 Dark. Didnt see the games, close or onesided?

Pretty one sided. Quick synopsis

G1 - Dark gold base first on Alcyone, goes 2gas ravager vs 6 gate glaives, loses only 5 drones. MP goes for disruptor adept stalker followup with late third, dark holds perfectly with roach ling bane, then just walks across the map and ends the game.
G2 - Dark goes ling queen nydus vs oracles, kills the nat nexus, and kinda just stays ahead the entire game. MP never crosses the halfway mark trying to assemble his carrier archon templar deathball, but Dark does a bunch of multiprong with ultras, lings, and corruptors, and eventually kills MP's bases without allowing the deathball to spiral out of control
G3 - Dark goes for +1 melee pressure vs VR+2 oracle into blink, kills the fourth with lings while trading 20 banes for 13 probes. Very fast hive tech allows him to have vipers for a blink colossus push, and then ultras to end the game
G4 - Dark goes for a queen walk on solaris (shortest rush distance map I think, with the accel zones), MP goes 3 oracle into dark shrine, but the DTs come out too late to save the nat. Dark closes out the game with roach ravager
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Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden819 Posts
January 24 2024 14:13 GMT
#26
On January 24 2024 22:45 yubo56 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2024 21:18 Kreuger wrote:
4-0 Dark. Didnt see the games, close or onesided?

Pretty one sided. Quick synopsis

G1 - Dark gold base first on Alcyone, goes 2gas ravager vs 6 gate glaives, loses only 5 drones. MP goes for disruptor adept stalker followup with late third, dark holds perfectly with roach ling bane, then just walks across the map and ends the game.
G2 - Dark goes ling queen nydus vs oracles, kills the nat nexus, and kinda just stays ahead the entire game. MP never crosses the halfway mark trying to assemble his carrier archon templar deathball, but Dark does a bunch of multiprong with ultras, lings, and corruptors, and eventually kills MP's bases without allowing the deathball to spiral out of control
G3 - Dark goes for +1 melee pressure vs VR+2 oracle into blink, kills the fourth with lings while trading 20 banes for 13 probes. Very fast hive tech allows him to have vipers for a blink colossus push, and then ultras to end the game
G4 - Dark goes for a queen walk on solaris (shortest rush distance map I think, with the accel zones), MP goes 3 oracle into dark shrine, but the DTs come out too late to save the nat. Dark closes out the game with roach ravager



Thanks
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
January 25 2024 02:32 GMT
#27
good comeback by Solar

remaining players are 4Z, 1P, 1T

but hopefully Maru can come out on top anyways lol
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-25 11:06:40
January 25 2024 11:03 GMT
#28
oh interesting, upper bracket semifinals is bo5, the upper bracket finals are bo7 though and they happen today too

let's go Maru!
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 25 2024 11:55 GMT
#29
Actual masterpiece by serral there. Also arguably the best game maru/serral have ever played
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4965 Posts
January 25 2024 11:57 GMT
#30
Maru was so close to win there, despite his awful start that gave too much room to serral to play around.
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
January 25 2024 12:14 GMT
#31
Unsure if serral has a better day or maru a worse day than the last time they met but today marus decisions and compositions dont feel as clean as last time.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
January 25 2024 12:15 GMT
#32
On January 25 2024 21:14 darklycid wrote:
Unsure if serral has a better day or maru a worse day than the last time they met but today marus decisions and compositions dont feel as clean as last time.

Some of both, Serral messed up basic early game defenses in their last series and was constantly behind as a result, but Maru is also looking less crisp.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
January 25 2024 12:16 GMT
#33
at least we got 1 good game
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
January 25 2024 12:17 GMT
#34
On January 25 2024 21:15 dysenterymd wrote:
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On January 25 2024 21:14 darklycid wrote:
Unsure if serral has a better day or maru a worse day than the last time they met but today marus decisions and compositions dont feel as clean as last time.

Some of both, Serral messed up basic early game defenses in their last series and was constantly behind as a result, but Maru is also looking less crisp.

Ye with these 2 at this point it feels like whoever has the better day wins.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
January 25 2024 12:19 GMT
#35
Maru chose to go with more turtling Tanks over aggressive Mines Bio push and let Serral got the easy map control early and he never looked back. Even when Maru trading well with his lategame Mech in Golden Aura, he still 2 bases behind and couldnt get it done.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
January 25 2024 12:29 GMT
#36
Maru last terran hope, seems like zergs figured out ZvT again!
WriterMaru
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
January 25 2024 12:31 GMT
#37
On January 25 2024 21:29 Poopi wrote:
Maru last terran hope, seems like zergs figured out ZvT again!

I dont think you can say that yet, maru did a lib transition in every game the last time and this time he did meh early games and then did mech and tank transitions again.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
January 25 2024 12:35 GMT
#38
Either Maru not feeling it today, or he want to test out some build but this is not how he beat Serral in the group stage, nor how Clem did it. Unless you do an 8-racks, Tanks is not great against LingBaneHydra overall in the current meta.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-25 12:45:54
January 25 2024 12:43 GMT
#39
herO got triple forge and then not 3-3-3, just stopped at 2-2-2

at this point the 3rd forge seems like it was pointless

I was expecting a 3-3-3 timing attack
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
January 25 2024 13:27 GMT
#40
On January 25 2024 21:31 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2024 21:29 Poopi wrote:
Maru last terran hope, seems like zergs figured out ZvT again!

I dont think you can say that yet, maru did a lib transition in every game the last time and this time he did meh early games and then did mech and tank transitions again.

I mean if top Zergs and Terrans trade series like that it’s quite healthy, the « form » of the day seems to matter with both parties having a good shot at winning if they play well
WriterMaru
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