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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17721 Posts
July 18 2023 11:32 GMT
#21
Solar could've done pickup micro to save those queens from the lock-ons
"Expert" mods4ever.com
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3445 Posts
July 18 2023 11:44 GMT
#22
Solar might be doing it this time, first Ro4 in GSL Code S?
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 18 2023 11:47 GMT
#23
Really sick games today. Gumiho one of the best players to watch when he's in form, and Solar is super tenacious today.
Although he was always behind, there were moments that looked winnable for Gumi.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 18 2023 12:12 GMT
#24
i went for a longer lunchbreak and suddenly Gumigod 2-0d Maru :O

what happened?
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 18 2023 12:13 GMT
#25
On July 18 2023 21:12 Schelim wrote:
i went for a longer lunchbreak and suddenly Gumigod 2-0d Maru :O

what happened?


I'd strongly recommend watching for yourself.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3445 Posts
July 18 2023 12:14 GMT
#26
ok, so what the F is wrong with Zerg late game these day, they think that lingbaneHydra can just beat Terran late game comp like that? If you miss you tech timing, do something else.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 18 2023 12:17 GMT
#27
On July 18 2023 21:14 tigera6 wrote:
ok, so what the F is wrong with Zerg late game these day, they think that lingbaneHydra can just beat Terran late game comp like that? If you miss you tech timing, do something else.


Lmao like what?
Switch into broods against a guy who already has 15 ghosts?

The LBH gives you a fair few chances at getting momentum or good fights - it's why Solar got that ghost cleanup (which made the game playable for a while).

I'm a big fan of adding more infestors than what Solar did there, but against high ghost count and a Terran who can still drop, I don't hate trying to force it with LBH.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 18 2023 12:26 GMT
#28
a group with Maru, Solar and ByuN

Gumiho advances in first place without benefitting from ByuN having wrist issues

Gumigod indeed
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
July 18 2023 12:26 GMT
#29
the same mappool like last season, it really does seem to favor terran quite a bit
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
July 18 2023 12:26 GMT
#30
On July 18 2023 20:17 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2023 19:50 SmoKim wrote:
Gumigod!


GUMIGOD

Sick TvT


GUMIGOOOOOOOOOOD

Crazy good TvZ
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
July 18 2023 12:28 GMT
#31
On July 18 2023 21:17 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2023 21:14 tigera6 wrote:
ok, so what the F is wrong with Zerg late game these day, they think that lingbaneHydra can just beat Terran late game comp like that? If you miss you tech timing, do something else.


Lmao like what?
Switch into broods against a guy who already has 15 ghosts?

The LBH gives you a fair few chances at getting momentum or good fights - it's why Solar got that ghost cleanup (which made the game playable for a while).

I'm a big fan of adding more infestors than what Solar did there, but against high ghost count and a Terran who can still drop, I don't hate trying to force it with LBH.

I don't hate it either but your argument that you shouldn't go Broods against 15 Ghosts is wrong. Dark does that pretty regularly and it works with good Infestor control and LOTS of broodlords
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3445 Posts
July 18 2023 12:29 GMT
#32
On July 18 2023 21:17 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2023 21:14 tigera6 wrote:
ok, so what the F is wrong with Zerg late game these day, they think that lingbaneHydra can just beat Terran late game comp like that? If you miss you tech timing, do something else.


Lmao like what?
Switch into broods against a guy who already has 15 ghosts?

The LBH gives you a fair few chances at getting momentum or good fights - it's why Solar got that ghost cleanup (which made the game playable for a while).

I'm a big fan of adding more infestors than what Solar did there, but against high ghost count and a Terran who can still drop, I don't hate trying to force it with LBH.

At least try the BLord play and see how it goes, unless you can set up the perfect engagement like Dark or Serral does. Solar just straight up refuse to do it, like Reynor does and just die. His Lurker also bring zero value to the Zerg army, yet hes still trying to stick to it in lategame against full tanks Ghost as well.

And can somebody tell me why cant we have an Overlord to guard the dead space next to the main? Gumiho was using that as his personal space all game long.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
July 18 2023 12:32 GMT
#33
Maru has gotta be the favorite to advance now, isn't he?
WriterMaru
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
July 18 2023 12:33 GMT
#34
On July 18 2023 20:47 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Really sick games today. Gumiho one of the best players to watch when he's in form, and Solar is super tenacious today.
Although he was always behind, there were moments that looked winnable for Gumi.

Glorious

Stylistically, given his race I used to love Liquid HerO as my favourite player, attempting a very macro, straight up harass oriented style but in terms of having an idiosyncratic style and thrilling games when in form Gumigod is up there for sure. Probably the most stylistic off-beat player who’s actually good SC2 has seen

Maru and Serral play the best SC sure, but it’s not as fun!

It’s like in the movies where the seemingly impervious supervillain has one weakness that the hero somehow discovers and exploits
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Spinoza
Profile Joined October 2010
667 Posts
July 18 2023 12:33 GMT
#35
Gumiho, one of the four horsemen of Terran, proves that the legend is in great form. Those were fun fun fun games.
FanTaSy | Flash | Movie | Leta | Stork | Map:Destination[BW]
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3445 Posts
July 18 2023 12:36 GMT
#36
On July 18 2023 21:32 Poopi wrote:
Maru has gotta be the favorite to advance now, isn't he?

nope, Byun might beat him if he doesnt get that loss out of his head. What worse is that, they might just proxy the hell out of the match and Maru lose because his Reaper take one extra shot.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 18 2023 12:40 GMT
#37
for some reason there's some deep philosophical discussion going on in the youtube chat instead of the usual LOL TERRAN IMBA and Gyuri is 4503 years old and sooooo hot and tbh i'm confused but i kinda prefer this
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
July 18 2023 12:45 GMT
#38
On July 18 2023 21:29 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2023 21:17 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
On July 18 2023 21:14 tigera6 wrote:
ok, so what the F is wrong with Zerg late game these day, they think that lingbaneHydra can just beat Terran late game comp like that? If you miss you tech timing, do something else.


Lmao like what?
Switch into broods against a guy who already has 15 ghosts?

The LBH gives you a fair few chances at getting momentum or good fights - it's why Solar got that ghost cleanup (which made the game playable for a while).

I'm a big fan of adding more infestors than what Solar did there, but against high ghost count and a Terran who can still drop, I don't hate trying to force it with LBH.

At least try the BLord play and see how it goes, unless you can set up the perfect engagement like Dark or Serral does. Solar just straight up refuse to do it, like Reynor does and just die. His Lurker also bring zero value to the Zerg army, yet hes still trying to stick to it in lategame against full tanks Ghost as well.

And can somebody tell me why cant we have an Overlord to guard the dead space next to the main? Gumiho was using that as his personal space all game long.

It’s so immobile but I don’t think it’s insurmountable

The problem is Zergs don’t contract come super lategame, they have to defend too much ground

You got a bunch of bases mined out, tech a forward base up to hive and rebuild a few tech structures. I’ve never seen a Zerg in a top top game do this, they’ll reactively rebuild but never do it proactively

If you’re down to 3/2/1 or hell no mining bases, fortify that region, pull new tech buildings and slow push from there. Instead you’re generally seeing people scramble to defend infrastructure that was gradually built over the expansion to 6/7 bases and BL comps can cover it all
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 18 2023 13:00 GMT
#39
On July 18 2023 21:28 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2023 21:17 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
On July 18 2023 21:14 tigera6 wrote:
ok, so what the F is wrong with Zerg late game these day, they think that lingbaneHydra can just beat Terran late game comp like that? If you miss you tech timing, do something else.


Lmao like what?
Switch into broods against a guy who already has 15 ghosts?

The LBH gives you a fair few chances at getting momentum or good fights - it's why Solar got that ghost cleanup (which made the game playable for a while).

I'm a big fan of adding more infestors than what Solar did there, but against high ghost count and a Terran who can still drop, I don't hate trying to force it with LBH.

I don't hate it either but your argument that you shouldn't go Broods against 15 Ghosts is wrong. Dark does that pretty regularly and it works with good Infestor control and LOTS of broodlords


That's fair.
You do really have to be able to make a lot of them though.
I do also think Dark probably has the best lategame Zerg control, and the heavy infestor play's effectiveness scales with good control.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 18 2023 13:03 GMT
#40
the Solar vs Maru showdown :O
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
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