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Die4Ever
United States17725 Posts
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tigera6
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
Although he was always behind, there were moments that looked winnable for Gumi. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
what happened? | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On July 18 2023 21:12 Schelim wrote: i went for a longer lunchbreak and suddenly Gumigod 2-0d Maru :O what happened? I'd strongly recommend watching for yourself. | ||
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tigera6
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On July 18 2023 21:14 tigera6 wrote: ok, so what the F is wrong with Zerg late game these day, they think that lingbaneHydra can just beat Terran late game comp like that? If you miss you tech timing, do something else. Lmao like what? Switch into broods against a guy who already has 15 ghosts? The LBH gives you a fair few chances at getting momentum or good fights - it's why Solar got that ghost cleanup (which made the game playable for a while). I'm a big fan of adding more infestors than what Solar did there, but against high ghost count and a Terran who can still drop, I don't hate trying to force it with LBH. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
Gumiho advances in first place without benefitting from ByuN having wrist issues Gumigod indeed | ||
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Tsubbi
Germany7996 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
GUMIGOOOOOOOOOOD Crazy good TvZ | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16044 Posts
On July 18 2023 21:17 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: Lmao like what? Switch into broods against a guy who already has 15 ghosts? The LBH gives you a fair few chances at getting momentum or good fights - it's why Solar got that ghost cleanup (which made the game playable for a while). I'm a big fan of adding more infestors than what Solar did there, but against high ghost count and a Terran who can still drop, I don't hate trying to force it with LBH. I don't hate it either but your argument that you shouldn't go Broods against 15 Ghosts is wrong. Dark does that pretty regularly and it works with good Infestor control and LOTS of broodlords | ||
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tigera6
3465 Posts
On July 18 2023 21:17 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: Lmao like what? Switch into broods against a guy who already has 15 ghosts? The LBH gives you a fair few chances at getting momentum or good fights - it's why Solar got that ghost cleanup (which made the game playable for a while). I'm a big fan of adding more infestors than what Solar did there, but against high ghost count and a Terran who can still drop, I don't hate trying to force it with LBH. At least try the BLord play and see how it goes, unless you can set up the perfect engagement like Dark or Serral does. Solar just straight up refuse to do it, like Reynor does and just die. His Lurker also bring zero value to the Zerg army, yet hes still trying to stick to it in lategame against full tanks Ghost as well. And can somebody tell me why cant we have an Overlord to guard the dead space next to the main? Gumiho was using that as his personal space all game long. | ||
Poopi
France12909 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
On July 18 2023 20:47 Ciaus_Dronu wrote: Really sick games today. Gumiho one of the best players to watch when he's in form, and Solar is super tenacious today. Although he was always behind, there were moments that looked winnable for Gumi. Glorious Stylistically, given his race I used to love Liquid HerO as my favourite player, attempting a very macro, straight up harass oriented style but in terms of having an idiosyncratic style and thrilling games when in form Gumigod is up there for sure. Probably the most stylistic off-beat player who’s actually good SC2 has seen Maru and Serral play the best SC sure, but it’s not as fun! It’s like in the movies where the seemingly impervious supervillain has one weakness that the hero somehow discovers and exploits | ||
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Spinoza
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tigera6
3465 Posts
On July 18 2023 21:32 Poopi wrote: Maru has gotta be the favorite to advance now, isn't he? nope, Byun might beat him if he doesnt get that loss out of his head. What worse is that, they might just proxy the hell out of the match and Maru lose because his Reaper take one extra shot. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
On July 18 2023 21:29 tigera6 wrote: At least try the BLord play and see how it goes, unless you can set up the perfect engagement like Dark or Serral does. Solar just straight up refuse to do it, like Reynor does and just die. His Lurker also bring zero value to the Zerg army, yet hes still trying to stick to it in lategame against full tanks Ghost as well. And can somebody tell me why cant we have an Overlord to guard the dead space next to the main? Gumiho was using that as his personal space all game long. It’s so immobile but I don’t think it’s insurmountable The problem is Zergs don’t contract come super lategame, they have to defend too much ground You got a bunch of bases mined out, tech a forward base up to hive and rebuild a few tech structures. I’ve never seen a Zerg in a top top game do this, they’ll reactively rebuild but never do it proactively If you’re down to 3/2/1 or hell no mining bases, fortify that region, pull new tech buildings and slow push from there. Instead you’re generally seeing people scramble to defend infrastructure that was gradually built over the expansion to 6/7 bases and BL comps can cover it all | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
On July 18 2023 21:28 Charoisaur wrote: I don't hate it either but your argument that you shouldn't go Broods against 15 Ghosts is wrong. Dark does that pretty regularly and it works with good Infestor control and LOTS of broodlords That's fair. You do really have to be able to make a lot of them though. I do also think Dark probably has the best lategame Zerg control, and the heavy infestor play's effectiveness scales with good control. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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