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[Page 23] Balance whining will be aggressively moderated

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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3454 Posts
February 11 2023 14:33 GMT
#221
On February 11 2023 23:32 Acrofales wrote:
Hey, Byun clinching 3rd place avoids Creator! That was the big plan here!

He wants Serral again obviously.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
February 11 2023 14:34 GMT
#222
On February 11 2023 23:32 Topin wrote:
wow poor Bunny, i thought he would have a much better tournament :/


Yea Bunny completely bombing out of this tournament is the most surprising thing that has happened so far. He's looked like he was about to rise to true contender status leading up to this year, and now I just don't know.

Looking forward to seeing how or if he bounces back from this during the next GSL season.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain881 Posts
February 11 2023 14:40 GMT
#223
I was wondering why more and more players land vikings vs tanks when they see an unsiege... liquipedia provides the answer:
- Landed viking shooting a tank (mechanical): DPS = 16.9 + 11.3 = 28.2 (!)
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-11 14:41:19
February 11 2023 14:41 GMT
#224
On the subject of Feardragon reminiscing about Scarlett-DRG, I remember watching that match at around 3 AM on my phone in a hostel dormroom in Barcelona in my first ever solo trip abroad, trying not to wake the people around me by laughing histerically.

One of the best SC2 memory I have
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
February 11 2023 14:47 GMT
#225
On February 11 2023 23:41 Nakajin wrote:
On the subject of Feardragon reminiscing about Scarlett-DRG, I remember watching that match at around 3 AM on my phone in a hostel dormroom in Barcelona in my first ever solo trip abroad, trying not to wake the people around me by laughing histerically.

One of the best SC2 memory I have

that sounds pretty epic! sc2 memories
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 11 2023 14:50 GMT
#226
PvP! PvP! We can get a playoff PvP guys!
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
February 11 2023 14:51 GMT
#227
How the hell did they draw these brackets up? They seem legitimately random.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
February 11 2023 14:54 GMT
#228
Do they rig these brackets to garuntee a non Korean in the final 4? Heromarine/Oliveira/Reynor is pretty brutal.

Plus setup for the possible Serral/Reynor 5 millionth final
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3454 Posts
February 11 2023 14:54 GMT
#229
Its completely random, no group matching, other than you cant play against guys in the same group before Ro4
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
February 11 2023 14:54 GMT
#230
On February 11 2023 23:51 Vindicare605 wrote:
How the hell did they draw these brackets up? They seem legitimately random.

Typical ESL chicanery. These things should be drawn publicly or be previously defined.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
February 11 2023 14:54 GMT
#231
These brackets seem like at least a guaranteed ro4 for reynor.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-11 14:55:15
February 11 2023 14:55 GMT
#232
On February 11 2023 23:04 dysenterymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2023 22:59 Acrofales wrote:
On February 11 2023 22:49 Poopi wrote:
On February 11 2023 22:36 dbRic1203 wrote:
5 Zerg
5 Terran
2 Protoss
For all the terran tears over the patch, they have nothing to complain about

Does ro12 matter especially considering the players in question?
The real issue is if any non zerg player will be able to beat Dark / Serral / Reynor. Other zergs don’t really matter even though they might add insult to injury and still be hard to beat too

Well, Ragnarok already showed he can beat Dark. Wouldn't be at all surprised if he wrecks Serral. Solar already showed he can beat Serral, although it was close, and Bo5/7 are a different beast. Still, I reckon both Ragnarok and Solar are easier to take down as a T or P than Serral is. So your best bet for a non ZvZ finals is Serral getting sniped in a ZvZ by Ragnarok in the Ro8. And then Ragnarok facing Maru, HM or herO in the Ro4.

herO can absolutely beat Dark/Reynor in a bo5. I worry that if he has to face multiple top Zerg he'll run out of builds and get run over though.

Reynor has also looked hopeless against Maru's turtling in the past, but it remains to be seen if Maru can replicate that in the new patch.

Other than that yeah, a ZvZ upset is the most likely way we avoid ZvZ final.

well herO might have to face 2 or 3 zergs tomorrow, don't think he has enough builds to do it
"Expert" mods4ever.com
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
532 Posts
February 11 2023 14:55 GMT
#233
Reynor has had some major luck with the brackets. No ZvZ and relatively easy road to ro4.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18193 Posts
February 11 2023 14:55 GMT
#234
These brackets look pretty exciting. Very balanced, with Reynor and herO on one side and Serral and Maru on the other. And Ragnarok as the ZvZ gatekeeper to try to stop Serral. In general, whoever makes it to the finals through this bracket will have deserved it.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
February 11 2023 14:56 GMT
#235
On February 11 2023 23:55 HeroSandro wrote:
Reynor has had some major luck with the brackets. No ZvZ and relatively easy road to ro4.


Easiest group into easiest bracket. Lucky him.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
February 11 2023 14:56 GMT
#236
On February 11 2023 23:55 HeroSandro wrote:
Reynor has had some major luck with the brackets. No ZvZ and relatively easy road to ro4.

he had the easiest group too
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
February 11 2023 14:56 GMT
#237
I’m going to predict Solar/Reynor ZvZ finals.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7155 Posts
February 11 2023 14:57 GMT
#238
On February 11 2023 23:54 tigera6 wrote:
Its completely random, no group matching, other than you cant play against guys in the same group before Ro4

It's not actually random. The ro12 games go as B2-C3, C2-D3, D2-A3 and A2-B3.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-11 14:59:17
February 11 2023 14:57 GMT
#239
Fantastic Bracket, this guarantees 1 protoss in the next round. rofl
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
February 11 2023 14:57 GMT
#240
On February 11 2023 23:56 Zaros wrote:
I’m going to predict Solar/Reynor ZvZ finals.


Solar got the absolute worst draw for him. He wanted anyone other than Maru in the second round.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
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