[IEM] Katowice 2023 - Group Stage Day 3 + Playoffs RO12 -…

On February 12 2023 06:29 [Phantom] wrote:
"Next season"

Does he know something we dont?

On February 12 2023 06:29 [Phantom] wrote:
"Next season"

Does he know something we dont?

On February 12 2023 06:49 [Phantom] wrote:
GSL is announced to continue but as far as I know ESL hasn't announced anything

On February 12 2023 04:32 Fanatic-Templar wrote:

I think Barrier is a really boring ability and enjoyed Hardened Shields better, but if you're worried about it being prematurely triggered like that, you can just take it off autocast.

On February 12 2023 08:30 AcrossFromTime wrote:


It has not been possible to manual cast barrier for a very long time. About five or six years I think.

On February 12 2023 11:10 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Hmm since I don't play protoss im curious, was there any realistic way for Creator to win by pushing at the end of g5?

The casters narrative is that the failed recall led to him losing, but I think the game was probably decided much before that right?

If he did recall in time to save his main, what would allow Creator to ever leave his main base and force a fight at Dark's bases? If he left, some cracklings would bust down any door Creator tried to make at his ramp, and he'd still lose a base trade. He also couldn't rebuild and go for a macro game, because he had like ~10 probes vs Dark's 50 and Dark still had a new base aside from his main and natural.

And in order for Creator to have killed those 2 bases that he did, he had to sac his third and nat. Maybe his nat could have been saved if he walled off sooner and had a sentry and a few adepts or stalkers and a battery overcharge, or if he recalled 1 colossus. Maybe he could have saved his third for a bit longer if he recalled 2 archons and had a battery.

But even then, let's say he could defend his 3 bases and still attack. I'm not sure if Creator's army was actually that strong? He had 2 colossus which is good, and 4 archons to help with splash, but that's kind of it. A decent ling surround would dwindle his army down to no longer be a deathball, and with his 50 drones he could have still mustered out another 50 lings at his main/natural and probably at least even'd the game out.

So i wonder if Creator ever could have made that attack in the first place, if it meant Dark would just counterattack and kill everything. Was it all a miscalculation cus he didn't know Dark would have adrenal glands? If a zerg does get adrenal glands then how would you defend if you decide to move out?

Of course, losing those 2-3 Oracles to the biles was huge... I guess if they were still alive, he could have defended his nat wall vs those lings, and perhaps saved his third especially with an archon and battery.

Great series either way, i dont mind sloppy play at all because stress and mistakes are all part of it. I think it makes for more entertaining games in a lot of ways because it's less about perfect strategy and execution, and more about trying to put out fires all over (more like BW). I'm really liking the Katowice games so far, the new maps help, and the maps being a little more creative and different than normal is great too, and ofc the players not figuring out the maps/patch out yet.
It's really too bad Creator didn't advance, i was really hoping he would, but oh well. He definitely did good overall and I hope he does well next GSL!