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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 09 2023 15:19 GMT
#81
On February 10 2023 00:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 00:12 buzz_bender wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:08 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Double Warp Prism let's go.


If Terrans can handle two drops at the same time, Protosses can handle two warp prisms! Great stuff from Astrea!


Some of us have been saying this for literally over 10 years.

And yet still Protoss players refuse to do it most of the time.


It's not about the control, it's about Robotics Facility production being at a premium.

Terrans are going to be producing Medivacs to heal their bio anyway.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33508 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-09 15:27:44
February 09 2023 15:26 GMT
#82
Group C already rolling ahead on B-stream with Serral vs SpeCial

considering the potential for turtle mech games it's prolly a good idea to stay on schedule
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-09 15:27:32
February 09 2023 15:26 GMT
#83
On February 10 2023 00:17 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 00:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:12 buzz_bender wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:08 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Double Warp Prism let's go.


If Terrans can handle two drops at the same time, Protosses can handle two warp prisms! Great stuff from Astrea!


Some of us have been saying this for literally over 10 years.

And yet still Protoss players refuse to do it most of the time.

Probbaly because most protoss units arent really that much of drop material.


That's not the point. How many games over the years have been decided because the single Warp Prism enabling the Protoss attack dies?

Protoss players during many different portions of the meta have made the Warp Prism absolutely essential for controlling everything from Immortals to High Templar while still being important for reinforcement purposes.

And yet for as valuable as they are the usual thing is to only have one out at a time. It's insane to me. Oh Robotics facility production time is at a premium? So is factory or Starport time for Terran, MAKE ANOTHER ONE, Protoss production facilities cost only a tiny fraction more than Terrans do.

It's simply a bad habit Protoss players have, a corner they choose to cut CONSTANTLY, and one that consistently creates a weak spot that gets exploited.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
February 09 2023 15:29 GMT
#84
I am happy the only group I totally missed today was group B, finally arrived at Katowice but still gotta commute to the hostel. Perfectly in time for group C and especially D with the best terrans in the world
WriterMaru
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
February 09 2023 15:30 GMT
#85
This is such a gumiho build from special
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
February 09 2023 15:35 GMT
#86
Is this the point where Astrea regrets turning around with his adept/immortal force to try to play late game?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
February 09 2023 15:36 GMT
#87
It's so stupid that banes 1 shot probes. That's probably one of the main reasons Toss has been such a volatile race for all of SC2.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3507 Posts
February 09 2023 15:36 GMT
#88
Reynor looking shredded in game and IRL right now
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3507 Posts
February 09 2023 15:38 GMT
#89
On February 10 2023 00:36 JJH777 wrote:
It's so stupid that banes 1 shot probes. That's probably one of the main reasons Toss has been such a volatile race for all of SC2.

Ey, come on. Reynor made it look silly, but build more sim city, get more vision, have a cannon, get some defensive upgrades..
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3449 Posts
February 09 2023 15:38 GMT
#90
Yeah, Astrea was a bit too much on the Archon, because Reynor keep rotating the lingbane away from them and fight them with Roach - Ravager instead. Replacing the Archon with more Stalker might have been better imo.
PartingFan
Profile Joined July 2020
17 Posts
February 09 2023 15:38 GMT
#91
Which game will Tastosis cast?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
February 09 2023 15:38 GMT
#92
On February 10 2023 00:36 JJH777 wrote:
It's so stupid that banes 1 shot probes. That's probably one of the main reasons Toss has been such a volatile race for all of SC2.


Baneling runbys are a thing in all 3 match ups. This isn't why Protoss is a volatile race.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 09 2023 15:39 GMT
#93
On February 10 2023 00:26 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 00:17 darklycid wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:12 buzz_bender wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:08 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Double Warp Prism let's go.


If Terrans can handle two drops at the same time, Protosses can handle two warp prisms! Great stuff from Astrea!


Some of us have been saying this for literally over 10 years.

And yet still Protoss players refuse to do it most of the time.

Probbaly because most protoss units arent really that much of drop material.

Oh Robotics facility production time is at a premium? So is factory or Starport time for Terran,


No.

Robo units and Protoss' ability to keep their numbers up has been defining their ability to win for the entirety of StarCraft 2, outside of Skytoss metas. The notion that Terran Starport units have had a comparable importance is just wrong.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
February 09 2023 15:42 GMT
#94
On February 10 2023 00:36 JJH777 wrote:
It's so stupid that banes 1 shot probes. That's probably one of the main reasons Toss has been such a volatile race for all of SC2.

Its the +5 baneling hp. Can do runbys while still holding the push. Turned every zerg into life.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
February 09 2023 15:43 GMT
#95
On February 10 2023 00:39 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 00:26 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:17 darklycid wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:12 buzz_bender wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:08 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Double Warp Prism let's go.


If Terrans can handle two drops at the same time, Protosses can handle two warp prisms! Great stuff from Astrea!


Some of us have been saying this for literally over 10 years.

And yet still Protoss players refuse to do it most of the time.

Probbaly because most protoss units arent really that much of drop material.

Oh Robotics facility production time is at a premium? So is factory or Starport time for Terran,


No.

Robo units and Protoss' ability to keep their numbers up has been defining their ability to win for the entirety of StarCraft 2, outside of Skytoss metas. The notion that Terran Starport units have had a comparable importance is just wrong.

You use your starport to counter protoss robo units though? Like Vikings heavy versus colossus and/or mix with medivacs vs the rest
Killing the starport (gas units in general but particularly from the starport in PvT) units of the terran has a strong effect, similarly to killing the robo units
WriterMaru
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33508 Posts
February 09 2023 15:46 GMT
#96
SpeCial putting in one of those 'looks good but still loses' performances against Serral
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
February 09 2023 15:46 GMT
#97
On February 10 2023 00:39 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 00:26 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:17 darklycid wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:12 buzz_bender wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:08 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Double Warp Prism let's go.


If Terrans can handle two drops at the same time, Protosses can handle two warp prisms! Great stuff from Astrea!


Some of us have been saying this for literally over 10 years.

And yet still Protoss players refuse to do it most of the time.

Probbaly because most protoss units arent really that much of drop material.

Oh Robotics facility production time is at a premium? So is factory or Starport time for Terran,


No.

Robo units and Protoss' ability to keep their numbers up has been defining their ability to win for the entirety of StarCraft 2, outside of Skytoss metas. The notion that Terran Starport units have had a comparable importance is just wrong.


LOL ok dude.

Tanks aren't important vs Zerg. Vikings aren't important vs Protoss. I must be mistaken, Terran only ever wins every game in every match up with Marines and Marauders.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18173 Posts
February 09 2023 15:47 GMT
#98
On February 10 2023 00:46 Waxangel wrote:
SpeCial putting in one of those 'looks good but still loses' performances against Serral

I dunno. I missed game 1, but he didn't look good at all in game 2.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
February 09 2023 15:47 GMT
#99
On February 10 2023 00:46 Waxangel wrote:
SpeCial putting in one of those 'looks good but still loses' performances against Serral

Didn't look good to me.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
February 09 2023 15:47 GMT
#100
On February 10 2023 00:46 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2023 00:39 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:26 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:17 darklycid wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:12 buzz_bender wrote:
On February 10 2023 00:08 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Double Warp Prism let's go.


If Terrans can handle two drops at the same time, Protosses can handle two warp prisms! Great stuff from Astrea!


Some of us have been saying this for literally over 10 years.

And yet still Protoss players refuse to do it most of the time.

Probbaly because most protoss units arent really that much of drop material.

Oh Robotics facility production time is at a premium? So is factory or Starport time for Terran,


No.

Robo units and Protoss' ability to keep their numbers up has been defining their ability to win for the entirety of StarCraft 2, outside of Skytoss metas. The notion that Terran Starport units have had a comparable importance is just wrong.


LOL ok dude.

Tanks aren't important vs Zerg. Vikings aren't important vs Protoss. I must be mistaken, Terran only ever wins every game in every match up with Marines and Marauders.

Well, the difference is that Starport buildtime is premium specifially because of medivacs so you have them anyway. Protoss has more important things they need to produce from their robo
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