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On February 10 2023 05:57 tlnetuser108 wrote:
What bothers the fuck out of me is that Maru and Serral did not top their group. They are clearly leagues and miles ahead of the other players in their respective groups but some how lost.
Must be jetlag from Finland and South Korea. I can't think of any other reason how low EPT ranked players like HM and DRG beat the 2 players with the most EPT points.
It actually makes a lot of sense if you actually watch Starcraft. See people lose sometimes. Wild concept I know, but no one is infallible. I don't understand how DRG, a guy who makes top6 evey GSL is low rated. I don't understand how HM, who made top4 and Katowice last year is low rated. Sure these are surprising results, but dude, calm down.
Furthermore, I don't actually believe we know for sure they aren't topping their groups. Anything can happen.
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On February 10 2023 05:57 tlnetuser108 wrote:
What bothers the fuck out of me is that Maru and Serral did not top their group. They are clearly leagues and miles ahead of the other players in their respective groups but some how lost.
Must be jetlag from Finland and South Korea. I can't think of any other reason how low EPT ranked players like HM and DRG beat the 2 players with the most EPT points.
I would like to be the first of many to welcome back our mighty king Jet Lag and assure you all that I never supported the vile usurper Internet Lag.
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On February 10 2023 06:04 Antithesis wrote:
Also, what's up with people dismissing DRG and HeroMarine as low-tier players in this thread?
Well they're not top 5 of their race. and Serral and Maru are favoured against anyone in a mirror matchup. DRG and HM aren't pushovers but it's still a surprise.
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Ah, the famous Finland-Poland jetlag. Volumes could be written
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On February 10 2023 06:16 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Ah, the famous Finland-Poland jetlag. Volumes could be written
You doubt, but I also remember years ago mighty Jet Lag was invoked to justify Korean losses against Europeans in China. Jet Lag is not to be taken lightly. Its power defies human comprehension.
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On February 10 2023 06:21 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2023 06:16 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Ah, the famous Finland-Poland jetlag. Volumes could be written You doubt, but I also remember years ago mighty Jet Lag was invoked to justify Korean losses against Europeans in China. Jet Lag is not to be taken lightly. Its power defies human comprehension.
OK but who's the GOAT of lags ? Neither plays in the GSL
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On February 10 2023 06:14 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2023 06:04 Antithesis wrote:
Also, what's up with people dismissing DRG and HeroMarine as low-tier players in this thread? Well they're not top 5 of their race. and Serral and Maru are favoured against anyone in a mirror matchup. DRG and HM aren't pushovers but it's still a surprise.
Who are top 5 zerg if drg isnt in there
Not to mention drg is undefeated vs serral in bo3
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On February 10 2023 06:24 MyLovelyLurker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2023 06:21 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 10 2023 06:16 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Ah, the famous Finland-Poland jetlag. Volumes could be written You doubt, but I also remember years ago mighty Jet Lag was invoked to justify Korean losses against Europeans in China. Jet Lag is not to be taken lightly. Its power defies human comprehension. OK but who's the GOAT of lags ? Neither plays in the GSL
Goat Lag slumbers in Avalon, but prophecy says that it shall awaken from its sleep when TL needs it once more.
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On February 10 2023 06:29 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2023 06:14 Fango wrote:On February 10 2023 06:04 Antithesis wrote:
Also, what's up with people dismissing DRG and HeroMarine as low-tier players in this thread? Well they're not top 5 of their race. and Serral and Maru are favoured against anyone in a mirror matchup. DRG and HM aren't pushovers but it's still a surprise. Who are top 5 zerg if drg isnt in there Not to mention drg is undefeated vs serral in bo3
Serral Reynor Dark Solar Rag. And that's now Rogue is gone. Maybe you can swap DRG for Rag depending on the day
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On February 10 2023 06:29 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2023 06:14 Fango wrote:On February 10 2023 06:04 Antithesis wrote:
Also, what's up with people dismissing DRG and HeroMarine as low-tier players in this thread? Well they're not top 5 of their race. and Serral and Maru are favoured against anyone in a mirror matchup. DRG and HM aren't pushovers but it's still a surprise. Who are top 5 zerg if drg isnt in there Not to mention drg is undefeated vs serral in bo3
Top 5 is Serral Reynor Dark (in some order) and then two of Ragnarok, Solar, and DRG. DRG has probably had the worse results of those three this year, but I'd put his skill level around Ragnarok's overall.
It's definitely an upset but a good Zerg beating a great Zerg is never that surprising. HM vs Maru is actually an insane upset.
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On February 10 2023 06:29 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2023 06:14 Fango wrote:On February 10 2023 06:04 Antithesis wrote:
Also, what's up with people dismissing DRG and HeroMarine as low-tier players in this thread? Well they're not top 5 of their race. and Serral and Maru are favoured against anyone in a mirror matchup. DRG and HM aren't pushovers but it's still a surprise. Who are top 5 zerg if drg isnt in there Not to mention drg is undefeated vs serral in bo3
Think you can make the case for Solar, but I personally wouldn't.
Serral, Dark, Reynor and then 2 out of Ragnarok, DRG and Solar. I'd personally rank those 3 in that order, but you could put Solar ahead. But it doesn't really matter. ZvZ is pretty volatile, and I wouldn't really call any of those 6 (and you can add Elazer in there too) beating anyone else in there in a Bo3 an upset.
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On February 10 2023 06:36 dysenterymd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2023 06:29 Cricketer12 wrote:On February 10 2023 06:14 Fango wrote:On February 10 2023 06:04 Antithesis wrote:
Also, what's up with people dismissing DRG and HeroMarine as low-tier players in this thread? Well they're not top 5 of their race. and Serral and Maru are favoured against anyone in a mirror matchup. DRG and HM aren't pushovers but it's still a surprise. Who are top 5 zerg if drg isnt in there Not to mention drg is undefeated vs serral in bo3 Top 5 is Serral Reynor Dark (in some order) and then two of Ragnarok, Solar, and DRG. DRG has probably had the worse results of those three this year, but I'd put his skill level around Ragnarok's overall. It's definitely an upset but a good Zerg beating a great Zerg is never that surprising. HM vs Maru is actually an insane upset.
If you watched HM vs Maru you would not have label the upset in such way, HMN committed hard in game 3 to a 2 base all in that almost fell flat, game 2 Maru give up when he was behind in a true Maru fashion.
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Great day of games. Tomorrow will be highly dramatic. :D
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Oh god, if Heromarine win his group I have about 5 years of post history to erase, pls save me Bunny!
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I just watched herO vs Solar g1. That was a completely insane and brilliant build from herO.
I really hope we get to see herO vs a bunch of zergs in the bracket stage, instead of him having to play Maru or something.
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On February 10 2023 06:10 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2023 05:57 tlnetuser108 wrote:
What bothers the fuck out of me is that Maru and Serral did not top their group. They are clearly leagues and miles ahead of the other players in their respective groups but some how lost.
Must be jetlag from Finland and South Korea. I can't think of any other reason how low EPT ranked players like HM and DRG beat the 2 players with the most EPT points. It actually makes a lot of sense if you actually watch Starcraft. See people lose sometimes. Wild concept I know, but no one is infallible. I don't understand how DRG, a guy who makes top6 evey GSL is low rated. I don't understand how HM, who made top4 and Katowice last year is low rated. Sure these are surprising results, but dude, calm down. Furthermore, I don't actually believe we know for sure they aren't topping their groups. Anything can happen.
Strong agree. The takes people are having are absolutely ludicrous. I've seen comments on this thread saying anything from "Maru Serral are washed / not in form" to "Serral is not a better player than DRG as he just got seriously outplayed."
You'd think that in starcraft 2 more than any other sport we'd realize how much variance there is in this game.
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This isn't 2011... DRG is way past his prime. Come back when he wins a GSL like herO post military
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On February 10 2023 10:25 tlnetuser108 wrote:
This isn't 2011... DRG is way past his prime. Come back when he wins a GSL like herO post military
Serral. Has. Never. Beaten. DRG. In. A. BO3.
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herO is actually Artanis disguised as a human, the chosen savior of the protoss race.
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On February 10 2023 10:08 angry_maia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2023 06:10 Cricketer12 wrote:On February 10 2023 05:57 tlnetuser108 wrote:
What bothers the fuck out of me is that Maru and Serral did not top their group. They are clearly leagues and miles ahead of the other players in their respective groups but some how lost.
Must be jetlag from Finland and South Korea. I can't think of any other reason how low EPT ranked players like HM and DRG beat the 2 players with the most EPT points. It actually makes a lot of sense if you actually watch Starcraft. See people lose sometimes. Wild concept I know, but no one is infallible. I don't understand how DRG, a guy who makes top6 evey GSL is low rated. I don't understand how HM, who made top4 and Katowice last year is low rated. Sure these are surprising results, but dude, calm down. Furthermore, I don't actually believe we know for sure they aren't topping their groups. Anything can happen. Strong agree. The takes people are having are absolutely ludicrous. I've seen comments on this thread saying anything from "Maru Serral are washed / not in form" to "Serral is not a better player than DRG as he just got seriously outplayed." You'd think that in starcraft 2 more than any other sport we'd realize how much variance there is in this game.
Yeah, this thread features some of the most asinine takes I've read in a while. And I do frequent Reddit. Surely many a commentator here must be trolling.
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