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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
July 23 2022 13:05 GMT
#101
On July 23 2022 21:26 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2022 20:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 23 2022 20:38 Elentos wrote:
Sadly Showtime didn't manage to take a single good fight this game

Yeah too many workers and 3 useless Carriers weren't so good


if you go carriers I think you need to back them up with storm to prevent clumped vikings to snipe them

yeah and you need more than 3, just 3 don't add much to your army especially when they have like 1-1 upgrades against 3-3 Bio
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1935 Posts
July 23 2022 13:40 GMT
#102
On July 23 2022 21:39 aringadingding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2022 16:53 Slydie wrote:
On July 23 2022 14:09 dbRic1203 wrote:
Raza and Kelazhur where the only non- Protoss players eliminated


Does it even mean that much when Protoss players made over half the starting field? They were destined to stealing wins from eachother in PvP.

Protoss runnerups in 3 of the 4 groups is a sign the race/players are still competeteive, which is very good for the variety of games.

well, thats one way to look at it. But for example, having a group of 8 players where 4 is tosses it kind of sticks out that all 4 are eliminated, rather than to reason like you do. There were more than 50 percent toss playing in the tourney and almost 90 % was eliminated...
Imagine if there were 18 terrans in the tourney and only 4 went to the playoffs (and where 2 of those 4 were moving on because of two groups with 5 terrans). I think TL.net would break because of the endless salt.


You got to love forum math... 14/18=78% were eliminated. 2 strong tosses were eliminated as close 5ths in the groups, if both went through, things would look very normal.

That so many tosses showed up should be worrisome for the depth of pro zergs and terrans.
Buff the siegetank
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-23 13:50:24
July 23 2022 13:47 GMT
#103
On July 23 2022 22:40 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2022 21:39 aringadingding wrote:
On July 23 2022 16:53 Slydie wrote:
On July 23 2022 14:09 dbRic1203 wrote:
Raza and Kelazhur where the only non- Protoss players eliminated


Does it even mean that much when Protoss players made over half the starting field? They were destined to stealing wins from eachother in PvP.

Protoss runnerups in 3 of the 4 groups is a sign the race/players are still competeteive, which is very good for the variety of games.

well, thats one way to look at it. But for example, having a group of 8 players where 4 is tosses it kind of sticks out that all 4 are eliminated, rather than to reason like you do. There were more than 50 percent toss playing in the tourney and almost 90 % was eliminated...
Imagine if there were 18 terrans in the tourney and only 4 went to the playoffs (and where 2 of those 4 were moving on because of two groups with 5 terrans). I think TL.net would break because of the endless salt.


You got to love forum math... 14/18=78% were eliminated. 2 strong tosses were eliminated as close 5ths in the groups, if both went through, things would look very normal.

That so many tosses showed up should be worrisome for the depth of pro zergs and terrans.

Pre replacements there were meant to be "only" 15 toss, but toss is very over represented in the third tier of non-Korean pros (the sort of people who qualify for most DHM but never make deep runs.) I don't think it's anything to be worried about though.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
July 23 2022 14:04 GMT
#104
Why are we waiting for both series to finish before getting into the next pair? this could take forever if there are a couple Bo5 2-hrs long in there.
And Lambo is playing as passively as its possible.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
July 23 2022 14:08 GMT
#105
On July 23 2022 23:04 tigera6 wrote:
Why are we waiting for both series to finish before getting into the next pair? this could take forever if there are a couple Bo5 2-hrs long in there.
And Lambo is playing as passively as its possible.

Bc there's no b stream and they're trying to cover as mamy series as possible
very illegal and very uncool
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
July 23 2022 14:13 GMT
#106
On July 23 2022 23:08 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2022 23:04 tigera6 wrote:
Why are we waiting for both series to finish before getting into the next pair? this could take forever if there are a couple Bo5 2-hrs long in there.
And Lambo is playing as passively as its possible.

Bc there's no b stream and they're trying to cover as mamy series as possible

I understand that there are 2 matches playing at the same time, otherwise we would have to go through 14 Bo5 in total. The lack of a English B-stream is weird but other channel are casting the 2nd game, but now everything are just on one series.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 23 2022 14:26 GMT
#107
wow Lambo, that was clutch
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3128 Posts
July 23 2022 14:43 GMT
#108
Lambo!!!

Great to see him making such a deep run, always been a fan.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
July 23 2022 15:14 GMT
#109
I think it's crazy that so many Zergs don't veto Waterfall this tournament
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-23 15:27:39
July 23 2022 15:26 GMT
#110
On July 24 2022 00:14 Charoisaur wrote:
I think it's crazy that so many Zergs don't veto Waterfall this tournament

Stargazer is similarly easy to split (I guess the gold exists but it's not super easy to hold) and has more potential for shenanigans. I can understand playing waterfall instead until the meta settles, even if it is smaller.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 23 2022 15:41 GMT
#111
that tank hahaahaha
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 23 2022 16:03 GMT
#112
Solar may suck against Protoss but he doesn't suck at English
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
July 23 2022 16:56 GMT
#113
Great to see Solar get his revenge on HM
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 23 2022 17:13 GMT
#114
Astrea is playing this great!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
July 23 2022 17:15 GMT
#115
It seems like Reynor would have a better chance playing Protoss. Having said that, this was a small map, and things would be much different on bigger maps.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1935 Posts
July 23 2022 17:32 GMT
#116
On July 24 2022 02:15 tigera6 wrote:
It seems like Reynor would have a better chance playing Protoss. Having said that, this was a small map, and things would be much different on bigger maps.


Ouch, Reynor looked helpless in that game 2, Astrea played him like a fiddle!

Nice to see no respect from the US toss.
Buff the siegetank
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
481 Posts
July 23 2022 17:35 GMT
#117
On July 23 2022 22:40 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2022 21:39 aringadingding wrote:
On July 23 2022 16:53 Slydie wrote:
On July 23 2022 14:09 dbRic1203 wrote:
Raza and Kelazhur where the only non- Protoss players eliminated


Does it even mean that much when Protoss players made over half the starting field? They were destined to stealing wins from eachother in PvP.

Protoss runnerups in 3 of the 4 groups is a sign the race/players are still competeteive, which is very good for the variety of games.

well, thats one way to look at it. But for example, having a group of 8 players where 4 is tosses it kind of sticks out that all 4 are eliminated, rather than to reason like you do. There were more than 50 percent toss playing in the tourney and almost 90 % was eliminated...
Imagine if there were 18 terrans in the tourney and only 4 went to the playoffs (and where 2 of those 4 were moving on because of two groups with 5 terrans). I think TL.net would break because of the endless salt.


You got to love forum math... 14/18=78% were eliminated. 2 strong tosses were eliminated as close 5ths in the groups, if both went through, things would look very normal.

That so many tosses showed up should be worrisome for the depth of pro zergs and terrans.

what i was supposed to write was "... almost 90 % of the eliminated players where toss players" (i.e. 14 out of the 16 eliminated, which is roughly 90 percent).
But my point in my first comment was that i did not agree that the result of 14 of the 16 elimated was toss just because there were a lot of toss players. At least no to this extent. But nevermind.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 23 2022 17:54 GMT
#118
that g3 is actually pretty sick
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
July 23 2022 17:56 GMT
#119
Not sure why Astrea was not making more units, he got a bank and was mining more than Reynor at the end of that game. Some disruptor, or even Tempest would be great.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1935 Posts
July 23 2022 17:56 GMT
#120
On July 24 2022 02:54 [PkF] Wire wrote:
that g3 is actually pretty sick


Indeed! Nailbiter!
Buff the siegetank
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