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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-23 03:16:52
July 23 2022 03:16 GMT
#81
On July 23 2022 10:52 warnull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2022 08:44 JJH777 wrote:
Groups A and B being significantly weaker than C and D created a very strange playoff bracket. With Serral starting in the first round of lower bracket and Reynor being very vulnerable lately it seems like anything can happen here. Is there a chance we have our first new premier winner (at least for international events) in many years?


Isn't Group A the strongest out of the four?


Not even close. It's easily the weakest group of the 4.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
July 23 2022 05:09 GMT
#82
Raza and Kelazhur where the only non- Protoss players eliminated
MaxPax
warnull
Profile Joined February 2016
United States280 Posts
July 23 2022 05:38 GMT
#83
On July 23 2022 12:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2022 10:52 warnull wrote:
On July 23 2022 08:44 JJH777 wrote:
Groups A and B being significantly weaker than C and D created a very strange playoff bracket. With Serral starting in the first round of lower bracket and Reynor being very vulnerable lately it seems like anything can happen here. Is there a chance we have our first new premier winner (at least for international events) in many years?


Isn't Group A the strongest out of the four?


Not even close. It's easily the weakest group of the 4.


We must have different evaluations of the strengths of various players then. My ranking of the groups is A > B > C > D.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
July 23 2022 07:25 GMT
#84
On July 23 2022 14:38 warnull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2022 12:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2022 10:52 warnull wrote:
On July 23 2022 08:44 JJH777 wrote:
Groups A and B being significantly weaker than C and D created a very strange playoff bracket. With Serral starting in the first round of lower bracket and Reynor being very vulnerable lately it seems like anything can happen here. Is there a chance we have our first new premier winner (at least for international events) in many years?


Isn't Group A the strongest out of the four?


Not even close. It's easily the weakest group of the 4.


We must have different evaluations of the strengths of various players then. My ranking of the groups is A > B > C > D.

Yeah, I'd have picked A as the strongest too, Skillous and Classic would have advanced in most other groups imo.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1935 Posts
July 23 2022 07:53 GMT
#85
On July 23 2022 14:09 dbRic1203 wrote:
Raza and Kelazhur where the only non- Protoss players eliminated


Does it even mean that much when Protoss players made over half the starting field? They were destined to stealing wins from eachother in PvP.

Protoss runnerups in 3 of the 4 groups is a sign the race/players are still competeteive, which is very good for the variety of games.
Buff the siegetank
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-23 08:05:15
July 23 2022 08:03 GMT
#86
On July 23 2022 14:38 warnull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2022 12:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2022 10:52 warnull wrote:
On July 23 2022 08:44 JJH777 wrote:
Groups A and B being significantly weaker than C and D created a very strange playoff bracket. With Serral starting in the first round of lower bracket and Reynor being very vulnerable lately it seems like anything can happen here. Is there a chance we have our first new premier winner (at least for international events) in many years?


Isn't Group A the strongest out of the four?


Not even close. It's easily the weakest group of the 4.


We must have different evaluations of the strengths of various players then. My ranking of the groups is A > B > C > D.

I would say D > A > C >= B. I think B > D makes no sense given the state of the players these days.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
July 23 2022 10:18 GMT
#87
On July 23 2022 16:53 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2022 14:09 dbRic1203 wrote:
Raza and Kelazhur where the only non- Protoss players eliminated


Does it even mean that much when Protoss players made over half the starting field? They were destined to stealing wins from eachother in PvP.

Protoss runnerups in 3 of the 4 groups is a sign the race/players are still competeteive, which is very good for the variety of games.


Even if 100% of the participants were protoss, someone would make a post saying everyone eliminated in groups was protoss.
Cereal
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17729 Posts
July 23 2022 10:53 GMT
#88
lol Elazer just abducted one of his own lurkers to save it from liberator fire
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26670 Posts
July 23 2022 11:04 GMT
#89
On July 23 2022 19:53 Die4Ever wrote:
lol Elazer just abducted one of his own lurkers to save it from liberator fire

Abducting your own units to own the libs
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-23 11:09:17
July 23 2022 11:08 GMT
#90
Showtime is looking damn good this tournament. Not even bringing the classical lack of killer instinct yet.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26670 Posts
July 23 2022 11:15 GMT
#91
On July 23 2022 20:08 Elentos wrote:
Showtime is looking damn good this tournament. Not even bringing the classical lack of killer instinct yet.

Give it time. Good to see his form so far, like his style and he’s one of those players that pretty much always looks good, even in defeat.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
July 23 2022 11:20 GMT
#92
On July 23 2022 20:08 Elentos wrote:
Showtime is looking damn good this tournament. Not even bringing the classical lack of killer instinct yet.

He almost looks good enough to win the tournament, though if Serral is slumping super hard Showtime 2-0 Serral doesn't tell us much about his ability to beat Reynor. I dare not hope.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 23 2022 11:21 GMT
#93
Dying with 6k gas in the bank because you have no minerals to actually make units, oh Elazer.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 23 2022 11:38 GMT
#94
Sadly Showtime didn't manage to take a single good fight this game
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
July 23 2022 11:40 GMT
#95
On July 23 2022 20:38 Elentos wrote:
Sadly Showtime didn't manage to take a single good fight this game

Yeah too many workers and 3 useless Carriers weren't so good
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 23 2022 11:54 GMT
#96
Frustrating series to lose. He was clearly ahead in 2 of the games he lost and just somehow not ready at all for Clem's attack this game.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
July 23 2022 11:55 GMT
#97
Showtime play great early game in all 5 games, but some minor mistake really cost him the series.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
July 23 2022 12:26 GMT
#98
On July 23 2022 20:40 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2022 20:38 Elentos wrote:
Sadly Showtime didn't manage to take a single good fight this game

Yeah too many workers and 3 useless Carriers weren't so good


if you go carriers I think you need to back them up with storm to prevent clumped vikings to snipe them
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
481 Posts
July 23 2022 12:39 GMT
#99
On July 23 2022 16:53 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2022 14:09 dbRic1203 wrote:
Raza and Kelazhur where the only non- Protoss players eliminated


Does it even mean that much when Protoss players made over half the starting field? They were destined to stealing wins from eachother in PvP.

Protoss runnerups in 3 of the 4 groups is a sign the race/players are still competeteive, which is very good for the variety of games.

well, thats one way to look at it. But for example, having a group of 8 players where 4 is tosses it kind of sticks out that all 4 are eliminated, rather than to reason like you do. There were more than 50 percent toss playing in the tourney and almost 90 % was eliminated...
Imagine if there were 18 terrans in the tourney and only 4 went to the playoffs (and where 2 of those 4 were moving on because of two groups with 5 terrans). I think TL.net would break because of the endless salt.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17729 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-23 12:48:17
July 23 2022 12:46 GMT
#100
DRG probably has a positive record against Serral lol
edit: actually they're 3-3
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