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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
July 24 2022 22:54 GMT
#361
Serral seemingly wants to wrap this up fast, it's already well past his bedtime ^^
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
July 24 2022 22:54 GMT
#362
Serral's been playing like a god but Clem is also playing worse than normal. Maybe the offline curse for Clem is real.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany460 Posts
July 24 2022 22:54 GMT
#363
It seems Serral wants to sleep ASAP, godmode activated
Dark Age of Camelot - I miss you
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-24 23:09:44
July 24 2022 22:56 GMT
#364
Calling it now, Clem will get trashed without taking a map. Really sad if it does happen.

[edit] Glad I was wrong, still want Clem to win this event too.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 24 2022 23:09 GMT
#365
Well, that game 3 was... very arrogant from Serral and pretty sick from Clem.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
NotSoHappy
Profile Joined November 2010
445 Posts
July 24 2022 23:29 GMT
#366
Serral's in The Zone
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 24 2022 23:31 GMT
#367
Whatever happens now, great run by Serral. He was put on the ropes and let go of some games he had but that's still very impressive
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1281 Posts
July 24 2022 23:31 GMT
#368
Damn, Serral showed up for sure. I honestly did not expect that at all. Would be kinda heartbreaking if he can't bring it home now
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 24 2022 23:37 GMT
#369
It's at this point in a series I question if Clem really has a lot of depth to his strategies. We know he's fast, we know he can micro like a king. But when that clearly isn't enough and when Serral is reading you like an open book, what do you do? Go for the same openers again and again? Play the same style again and again?

Do you have anything else?
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
July 24 2022 23:40 GMT
#370
Why does Serral have to win 5 games? Why not just do the 1 point lead for Clem
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
July 24 2022 23:40 GMT
#371
On July 25 2022 08:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
It's at this point in a series I question if Clem really has a lot of depth to his strategies. We know he's fast, we know he can micro like a king. But when that clearly isn't enough and when Serral is reading you like an open book, what do you do? Go for the same openers again and again? Play the same style again and again?

Do you have anything else?

Yeah, it feels like all he can do at this point is execute better. Peak execution Clem can beat Serral, but going from iffy execution to your best execution in between series when you're already tired is really difficult.

Even if his aggressive style is good enough 90% of the time more strategic depth would really help him. He's still young though, I'm sure he'll grow over time.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 24 2022 23:41 GMT
#372
On July 25 2022 08:40 Husyelt wrote:
Why does Serral have to win 5 games? Why not just do the 1 point lead for Clem


It's a double elimination tournament. Clem is coming from the Winner's Bracket.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 24 2022 23:52 GMT
#373
Sigh. A second Ghost academy isn't an error Rotterdam. You can only store one nuke per silo.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
LostUsername100
Profile Joined April 2022
96 Posts
July 24 2022 23:57 GMT
#374
Actual amazing game, back and forth.
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-25 00:03:58
July 24 2022 23:57 GMT
#375
On July 25 2022 08:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
It's at this point in a series I question if Clem really has a lot of depth to his strategies. We know he's fast, we know he can micro like a king. But when that clearly isn't enough and when Serral is reading you like an open book, what do you do? Go for the same openers again and again? Play the same style again and again?

Do you have anything else?


It's quite true, he needs to learn from Maru on how to deal with late-game zerg if he wants to actually take a title. His typical style won't hold up to the likes of Serral or Reynor in good form as evidenced here.

He won the only game in the Bo5 first finals by doing a different build/strategy/opening.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1281 Posts
July 25 2022 00:00 GMT
#376
On July 25 2022 08:52 Vindicare605 wrote:
Sigh. A second Ghost academy isn't an error Rotterdam. You can only store one nuke per silo.


Since Clem never build a nuke, I'm pretty sure it was a mistake in the moment
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
July 25 2022 00:01 GMT
#377
On July 25 2022 08:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2022 08:40 Husyelt wrote:
Why does Serral have to win 5 games? Why not just do the 1 point lead for Clem


It's a double elimination tournament. Clem is coming from the Winner's Bracket.

Feel like 2 game advantage is too big for me for the finals. Even if Serral doesn't win, the past 8 HSC's hes gotten 1st or 2nd, stupendous record.

Excellent final day, excellent tourney. Astrea leveling up was fun to see as well.

You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-25 00:07:22
July 25 2022 00:04 GMT
#378
On July 25 2022 09:01 Husyelt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2022 08:41 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 25 2022 08:40 Husyelt wrote:
Why does Serral have to win 5 games? Why not just do the 1 point lead for Clem


It's a double elimination tournament. Clem is coming from the Winner's Bracket.

Feel like 2 game advantage is too big for me for the finals. Even if Serral doesn't win, the past 8 HSC's hes gotten 1st or 2nd, stupendous record.

Excellent final day, excellent tourney. Astrea leveling up was fun to see as well.


Winning a bo7 down one game is harder than winning a bo5 and then a bo3 imo. It's also fairest - everyone gets to lose one series in the playoffs. I would prefer for the second match to be a bo5 as well, bo3 feels too volatile for determining a tournament, but considering how long these days are already having the second match be bo3 is understandable.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States363 Posts
July 25 2022 00:09 GMT
#379
On July 25 2022 08:57 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2022 08:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
It's at this point in a series I question if Clem really has a lot of depth to his strategies. We know he's fast, we know he can micro like a king. But when that clearly isn't enough and when Serral is reading you like an open book, what do you do? Go for the same openers again and again? Play the same style again and again?

Do you have anything else?


It's quite true, he needs to learn from Maru on how to deal with late-game zerg if he wants to actually take a title. His typical style won't hold up to the likes of Serral or Reynor in good form as evidenced here.

He won the only game in the Bo5 first finals by doing a different build/strategy/opening.


+1 on this analysis from me. Big Clem fanboy here, and I respect Serral; as long as he's not playing against Clement. I just rage-quit from watching the stream as it seems inevitiable that another HSC goes to the Finnish Phenom. It's just frustrating Clem's not able to crack the safe to Serral at all this series. Just would like for Clem to win an offline HSC. Maybe another time.
FF, KH, Persona, Uncharted, Yakuza | Porter, Illenium, MitiS, Dabin, Seven Lions, Petit Biscuit | Diablo II, SC2 | Pho, sushi, tacos
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States461 Posts
July 25 2022 00:11 GMT
#380
Just seems like Clem's overall control and strategies are a level behind Maru at the moment. Marine control is still great but overall movement and tank/ghost control is just so far off what we've been seeing from Maru lately.

GGWP to Serral huge losers run.
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