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xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-23 18:48:01
July 23 2022 18:46 GMT
#141
Wow, Protoss is performing very well against Zerg now. Hero doing very well against Zerg in Korea, and now you see Neeb and Astrea do well against Zerg. Also, ShowTime 2-0 Serral as well.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
July 23 2022 18:47 GMT
#142
On July 24 2022 03:46 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Wow, Protoss is performing very well against Zerg now. Hero doing very well against Zerg in Korea, and now you see Neeb and Astrea do well against Zerg.

quick time to buff zerg
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
July 23 2022 18:48 GMT
#143
On July 24 2022 03:43 Elentos wrote:
2 NA players in the top 6, oh boy


Top 6, lol just wait for the inevitable grand final USA pvp
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 23 2022 18:49 GMT
#144
On July 24 2022 03:46 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 03:43 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 24 2022 02:57 Nebuchad wrote:
Not a new observation but the way the casters are very entirely sure Reynor is still a favourite to win the series at 0-2 is part of what makes it hard for me to watch games.


I mean look who is casting. It'd be really strange to not hear a lot of bias in every cast.


Do you think it's bias though? I think it was a decent call, even if it was wrong this time.

yeah I don't get why you seemed to be angry about that, if you had forced me with a gun on my temple to bet on the winner I'd have said Reynor (and I'd be dead now after having heaved a sigh of relief at many points in g5) and I'm pretty sure I'm far from the only one
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-23 18:50:20
July 23 2022 18:49 GMT
#145
On July 24 2022 03:46 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Wow, Protoss is performing very well against Zerg now. Hero doing very well against Zerg in Korea, and now you see Neeb and Astrea do well against Zerg. Also, ShowTime 2-0 Serral as well.

Protoss has always done decent against Zerg in general before, like Zest taken down Reynor and Serral. The issue is the Grand Final of the tournaments, where Zerg just flip the script and straight up smashing the Toss.
Other than Trap for a certain period last year, that has been the general direction of PvZ.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 23 2022 18:49 GMT
#146
On July 24 2022 03:46 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 03:43 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 24 2022 02:57 Nebuchad wrote:
Not a new observation but the way the casters are very entirely sure Reynor is still a favourite to win the series at 0-2 is part of what makes it hard for me to watch games.


I mean look who is casting. It'd be really strange to not hear a lot of bias in every cast.


Do you think it's bias though? I think it was a decent call, even if it was wrong this time.


It's bias. It's consistent and it's predictable.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
July 23 2022 18:50 GMT
#147
On July 24 2022 03:46 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Wow, Protoss is performing very well against Zerg now. Hero doing very well against Zerg in Korea, and now you see Neeb and Astrea do well against Zerg. Also, ShowTime 2-0 Serral as well.

Just Zergs taking it easy at the moment, at the next world championship they will practice and destroy everyone again

No seriously, Protoss really seems a lot stronger in the matchup, surprised what a simple Queen change can do.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 23 2022 18:58 GMT
#148
On July 24 2022 03:48 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 03:43 Elentos wrote:
2 NA players in the top 6, oh boy


Top 6, lol just wait for the inevitable grand final USA pvp

NA running rampant, is this what happens when Korea sends the *checks number of replacements* D-team?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 23 2022 19:00 GMT
#149
On July 24 2022 03:50 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 03:46 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Wow, Protoss is performing very well against Zerg now. Hero doing very well against Zerg in Korea, and now you see Neeb and Astrea do well against Zerg. Also, ShowTime 2-0 Serral as well.

Just Zergs taking it easy at the moment, at the next world championship they will practice and destroy everyone again

No seriously, Protoss really seems a lot stronger in the matchup, surprised what a simple Queen change can do.


Makes the matchup 1000x better as well. Is it crazy to say it's the best matchup atm?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 23 2022 19:00 GMT
#150
On July 24 2022 03:50 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 03:46 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Wow, Protoss is performing very well against Zerg now. Hero doing very well against Zerg in Korea, and now you see Neeb and Astrea do well against Zerg. Also, ShowTime 2-0 Serral as well.

Just Zergs taking it easy at the moment, at the next world championship they will practice and destroy everyone again

No seriously, Protoss really seems a lot stronger in the matchup, surprised what a simple Queen change can do.


Are you really surprised that nerfing the Queen has a big impact on the match up? The Queen is such an overutilized unit in the Zerg roster (not really the players' fault just a design flaw in how Zerg is designed in SC2) that nerfing it a ripple effect across the whole roster.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 23 2022 19:00 GMT
#151
On July 24 2022 04:00 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 03:50 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 24 2022 03:46 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Wow, Protoss is performing very well against Zerg now. Hero doing very well against Zerg in Korea, and now you see Neeb and Astrea do well against Zerg. Also, ShowTime 2-0 Serral as well.

Just Zergs taking it easy at the moment, at the next world championship they will practice and destroy everyone again

No seriously, Protoss really seems a lot stronger in the matchup, surprised what a simple Queen change can do.


Makes the matchup 1000x better as well. Is it crazy to say it's the best matchup atm?


Did you watch Maru vs Dark? Safe to say that TvZ still has that locked up.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
July 23 2022 19:03 GMT
#152
On July 24 2022 03:49 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 03:46 Nebuchad wrote:
On July 24 2022 03:43 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 24 2022 02:57 Nebuchad wrote:
Not a new observation but the way the casters are very entirely sure Reynor is still a favourite to win the series at 0-2 is part of what makes it hard for me to watch games.


I mean look who is casting. It'd be really strange to not hear a lot of bias in every cast.


Do you think it's bias though? I think it was a decent call, even if it was wrong this time.


It's bias. It's consistent and it's predictable.


Are the wrong tho?
I mean all three of them are pro they made a carreer playing against Reynor, and also Astrea, quite a lot. If the feel even down 0-2 that he'll win (which they didn't say at all btw). Surelly they are well placed to think it's a reasonable statement?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 23 2022 19:03 GMT
#153
On July 24 2022 04:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 04:00 Pandain wrote:
On July 24 2022 03:50 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 24 2022 03:46 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Wow, Protoss is performing very well against Zerg now. Hero doing very well against Zerg in Korea, and now you see Neeb and Astrea do well against Zerg. Also, ShowTime 2-0 Serral as well.

Just Zergs taking it easy at the moment, at the next world championship they will practice and destroy everyone again

No seriously, Protoss really seems a lot stronger in the matchup, surprised what a simple Queen change can do.


Makes the matchup 1000x better as well. Is it crazy to say it's the best matchup atm?


Did you watch Maru vs Dark? Safe to say that TvZ still has that locked up.

I don't think Maru's brand of TvZ is for everyone. And GSL was far worse than the DH finals.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4417 Posts
July 23 2022 19:03 GMT
#154
On July 24 2022 03:50 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 03:46 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Wow, Protoss is performing very well against Zerg now. Hero doing very well against Zerg in Korea, and now you see Neeb and Astrea do well against Zerg. Also, ShowTime 2-0 Serral as well.

Just Zergs taking it easy at the moment, at the next world championship they will practice and destroy everyone again

No seriously, Protoss really seems a lot stronger in the matchup, surprised what a simple Queen change can do.


The first part but not sarcastically. If there was a $100k to first place tournament a month from now I'd bet 90% on the top 4 Zergs, 5% for Maru, and 5% for everyone else. The top 4 Zergs, especially Rogue/Reynor, really don't put as much effort in when there is less money around. Serral didn't even show for Valencia.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-23 19:05:26
July 23 2022 19:05 GMT
#155
On July 24 2022 04:03 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 03:50 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 24 2022 03:46 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Wow, Protoss is performing very well against Zerg now. Hero doing very well against Zerg in Korea, and now you see Neeb and Astrea do well against Zerg. Also, ShowTime 2-0 Serral as well.

Just Zergs taking it easy at the moment, at the next world championship they will practice and destroy everyone again

No seriously, Protoss really seems a lot stronger in the matchup, surprised what a simple Queen change can do.


The first part but not sarcastically. If there was a $100k to first place tournament a month from now I'd bet 90% on the top 4 Zergs, 5% for Maru, and 5% for everyone else. The top 4 Zergs, especially Rogue/Reynor, really don't put as much effort in when there is less money around. Serral didn't even show for Valencia.

Valencia has more than double the prize pool than HSC. Serral missed that one for other reasons.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26703 Posts
July 23 2022 19:08 GMT
#156
On July 24 2022 03:45 Captain Peabody wrote:
it's nuts that the winner's bracket semi-final is Astrea vs Neeb

2022, the year of NA?

It is currently the #YearofHarstem, but perhaps by 2023
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 23 2022 19:10 GMT
#157
On July 24 2022 04:08 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 03:45 Captain Peabody wrote:
it's nuts that the winner's bracket semi-final is Astrea vs Neeb

2022, the year of NA?

It is currently the #YearofHarstem, but perhaps by 2023

The #CenturyofHarstem never stops.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26703 Posts
July 23 2022 19:13 GMT
#158
On July 24 2022 04:03 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 03:49 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 24 2022 03:46 Nebuchad wrote:
On July 24 2022 03:43 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 24 2022 02:57 Nebuchad wrote:
Not a new observation but the way the casters are very entirely sure Reynor is still a favourite to win the series at 0-2 is part of what makes it hard for me to watch games.


I mean look who is casting. It'd be really strange to not hear a lot of bias in every cast.


Do you think it's bias though? I think it was a decent call, even if it was wrong this time.


It's bias. It's consistent and it's predictable.


Are the wrong tho?
I mean all three of them are pro they made a carreer playing against Reynor, and also Astrea, quite a lot. If the feel even down 0-2 that he'll win (which they didn't say at all btw). Surelly they are well placed to think it's a reasonable statement?

I missed the cast, perhaps it was over the top but I can’t judge that by my own sensibilities.

I was refreshing the score and saw Reynor was 2-0 up and went ‘ah it’s Reynor he’ll probably claw it back’. Don’t think that’s unreasonable at all. Astrea’s an excellent pro but Reynor’s up a tier to the extent he’s pulling out wins against credible pros with his own Protoss in big tournaments.

Great scalp from Maximum Angle, certainly wasn’t expecting to see an all-American showdown at this stage of the bracket!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7162 Posts
July 23 2022 19:14 GMT
#159
Bit late to the party. Is there no English b stream?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26703 Posts
July 23 2022 19:14 GMT
#160
On July 24 2022 04:10 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 04:08 WombaT wrote:
On July 24 2022 03:45 Captain Peabody wrote:
it's nuts that the winner's bracket semi-final is Astrea vs Neeb

2022, the year of NA?

It is currently the #YearofHarstem, but perhaps by 2023

The #CenturyofHarstem never stops.

You misspelt Millennium there brother.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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