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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-23 19:24:36
July 23 2022 19:23 GMT
#161
On July 24 2022 04:14 Harris1st wrote:
Bit late to the party. Is there no English b stream?

Nope. We need Probe back for the next HSC so someone takes B stream duty. The main stream is technically in both series but they always focus on one series and only show parts of the other when time allows it.
On July 24 2022 04:14 WombaT wrote:
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On July 24 2022 04:10 Elentos wrote:
On July 24 2022 04:08 WombaT wrote:
On July 24 2022 03:45 Captain Peabody wrote:
it's nuts that the winner's bracket semi-final is Astrea vs Neeb

2022, the year of NA?

It is currently the #YearofHarstem, but perhaps by 2023

The #CenturyofHarstem never stops.

You misspelt Millennium there brother.

They just never were a particularly good team.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
July 23 2022 19:26 GMT
#162
On July 24 2022 04:03 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 03:50 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 24 2022 03:46 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Wow, Protoss is performing very well against Zerg now. Hero doing very well against Zerg in Korea, and now you see Neeb and Astrea do well against Zerg. Also, ShowTime 2-0 Serral as well.

Just Zergs taking it easy at the moment, at the next world championship they will practice and destroy everyone again

No seriously, Protoss really seems a lot stronger in the matchup, surprised what a simple Queen change can do.


The first part but not sarcastically. If there was a $100k to first place tournament a month from now I'd bet 90% on the top 4 Zergs, 5% for Maru, and 5% for everyone else. The top 4 Zergs, especially Rogue/Reynor, really don't put as much effort in when there is less money around. Serral didn't even show for Valencia.

You might not be wrong but just from the eye-test PvZ feels much more fair than before.
Before the patch I felt like Protoss could only win if the Zerg made a mistake and had little room to outplay the Zerg, that's really not the case anymore
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
July 23 2022 19:29 GMT
#163
On July 24 2022 04:26 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 04:03 JJH777 wrote:
On July 24 2022 03:50 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 24 2022 03:46 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Wow, Protoss is performing very well against Zerg now. Hero doing very well against Zerg in Korea, and now you see Neeb and Astrea do well against Zerg. Also, ShowTime 2-0 Serral as well.

Just Zergs taking it easy at the moment, at the next world championship they will practice and destroy everyone again

No seriously, Protoss really seems a lot stronger in the matchup, surprised what a simple Queen change can do.


The first part but not sarcastically. If there was a $100k to first place tournament a month from now I'd bet 90% on the top 4 Zergs, 5% for Maru, and 5% for everyone else. The top 4 Zergs, especially Rogue/Reynor, really don't put as much effort in when there is less money around. Serral didn't even show for Valencia.

You might not be wrong but just from the eye-test PvZ feels much more fair than before.
Before the patch I felt like Protoss could only win if the Zerg made a mistake and had little room to outplay the Zerg, that's really not the case anymore

I think it's because a lost fight for the toss doesn't lead to a slow death animation as stalkers and zealots are way more expendable.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 23 2022 19:35 GMT
#164
PvZ is already much better off just for the simple fact that we don't see queens walking across the map and ending the game (one way or the other) in half the games anymore.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4417 Posts
July 23 2022 19:36 GMT
#165
On July 24 2022 04:26 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 04:03 JJH777 wrote:
On July 24 2022 03:50 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 24 2022 03:46 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Wow, Protoss is performing very well against Zerg now. Hero doing very well against Zerg in Korea, and now you see Neeb and Astrea do well against Zerg. Also, ShowTime 2-0 Serral as well.

Just Zergs taking it easy at the moment, at the next world championship they will practice and destroy everyone again

No seriously, Protoss really seems a lot stronger in the matchup, surprised what a simple Queen change can do.


The first part but not sarcastically. If there was a $100k to first place tournament a month from now I'd bet 90% on the top 4 Zergs, 5% for Maru, and 5% for everyone else. The top 4 Zergs, especially Rogue/Reynor, really don't put as much effort in when there is less money around. Serral didn't even show for Valencia.

You might not be wrong but just from the eye-test PvZ feels much more fair than before.
Before the patch I felt like Protoss could only win if the Zerg made a mistake and had little room to outplay the Zerg, that's really not the case anymore


Yeah it's more fair for sure. Before the patch it didn't matter if half the top Zergs missed an event or if they weren't in perfect shape. One of the Zergs present there would still win or at the very least be in the finals. Seeing Zerg actually do bad at an event for the first time since like 2018 is amazing. Though one of Serral/Reynor could still make a lower bracket run and win anyways.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-23 19:41:15
July 23 2022 19:39 GMT
#166
21 Marines and 10 Marauders are really not what Spirit's army should include I think

edit: still good enough
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-23 19:43:06
July 23 2022 19:42 GMT
#167
Imagine if this of all the times is where Spirit breaks his losing streak against Serral

What a terrible fight to end it all though
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33596 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-23 19:43:35
July 23 2022 19:43 GMT
#168
Kind of fun to see how a few map tweaks turn the cancer Terran style from something 'only Maru can do' into something that many of the top 10-15 Terrans can execute at a high level. Little changes make a whole lot of difference.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
LostUsername100
Profile Joined April 2022
96 Posts
July 23 2022 19:44 GMT
#169
It's not really the hardest style to play.

Watching this is like watching paint dry though, something for map makers consider.
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
July 23 2022 19:46 GMT
#170
On July 24 2022 04:43 Waxangel wrote:
Kind of fun to see how a few map tweaks turn the cancer Terran style from something 'only Maru can do' into something that many of the top 10-15 Terrans can execute at a high level. Little changes make a whole lot of difference.

Exactly. Now the meta may stabilize into something else pretty soon if zergs figure it out but so far it's not obvious how. Maybe through swarmhosts to better the trades?
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 23 2022 19:46 GMT
#171
On July 24 2022 04:43 Waxangel wrote:
Kind of fun to see how a few map tweaks turn the cancer Terran style from something 'only Maru can do' into something that many of the top 10-15 Terrans can execute at a high level. Little changes make a whole lot of difference.


What you mean Zergs have a harder time winning when the map pool doesn't blatantly favor them? I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-23 19:48:01
July 23 2022 19:47 GMT
#172
Really liking Raza and Teebull casting, I can't remember hearing either of them cast before. Always nice to hear some new voices.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 23 2022 19:52 GMT
#173
On July 24 2022 04:47 Nakajin wrote:
Really liking Raza and Teebull casting, I can't remember hearing either of them cast before. Always nice to hear some new voices.

HSC has always been a good way to find out which players would have what it takes to make it as casters.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3541 Posts
July 23 2022 19:54 GMT
#174
On July 24 2022 04:52 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 04:47 Nakajin wrote:
Really liking Raza and Teebull casting, I can't remember hearing either of them cast before. Always nice to hear some new voices.

HSC has always been a good way to find out which players would have what it takes to make it as casters.

It's the British flair isn't it :D
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 23 2022 19:56 GMT
#175
Just as Zerglings spawn in pairs, so do Spirit's command centers.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33596 Posts
July 23 2022 20:06 GMT
#176
On July 24 2022 04:52 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2022 04:47 Nakajin wrote:
Really liking Raza and Teebull casting, I can't remember hearing either of them cast before. Always nice to hear some new voices.

HSC has always been a good way to find out which players would have what it takes to make it as casters.


All-UK desk right after USA confirms top three is neo-colonialism
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 23 2022 20:09 GMT
#177
I think it'd be giving Solar a lot of credit to call his recent performances "uninspiring"
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 23 2022 20:11 GMT
#178
Alright winner of Zoun vs Gumiho will be the sole carrier of the Korean torch at this event. Gumi's been looking solid, too.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-23 20:15:49
July 23 2022 20:15 GMT
#179
On July 24 2022 05:11 Elentos wrote:
Alright winner of Zoun vs Gumiho will be the sole carrier of the Korean torch at this event. Gumi's been looking solid, too.

Hopefully Gumi wins, I think Gumi vs Reynor would be an interesting match. Would love to see what weird stuff he has cooked up for the new maps
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
July 23 2022 20:20 GMT
#180
With every passing minute it's looking more and more like game 1 was an outlier brought forth by the map they played on.
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