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[GSL] Super Tournament 1 - Day One

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Charlie Sheens House51456 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-16 21:11:16
January 16 2022 21:10 GMT
#1

Super Tournament 3


Monday, Jan 17 8:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament/2022/1

Streams & Casters


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Artosis - Tasteless

Format

  • Single-elimination bracket:
  • Round of 16 are Bo5.
  • Quarterfinals are Bo5.
  • Semifinals are Bo5.
  • Finals are Bo7.

      Map Pool



Quarterfinals


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(P)Zest vs (P)Classic
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(Z)Rogue vs (T)Bunny
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(T)Maru vs (Z)Armani
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(P)herO vs (P)Trap

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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
January 17 2022 07:44 GMT
#2
Classic > Zest
Rogue > Bunny
Maru > Armani (3-0)
herO > Trap

Cheering for these results today.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17610 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-17 08:07:18
January 17 2022 08:05 GMT
#3
uhh I do not like this format for 2022... any player that wins their ro10 group is gonna show us less games, which means we probably won't even see that much from our champions

seems like downsizing to me, and they're going really out of their way to do it too with this weird format
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3221 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-17 08:12:46
January 17 2022 08:12 GMT
#4
On January 17 2022 17:05 Die4Ever wrote:
uhh I do not like this format for 2022... any player that wins their ro10 group is gonna show us less games, which means we probably won't even see that much from our champions

seems like downsizing to me, and they're going really out of their way to do it too with this weird format

Everybody still got to play the initial Ro20 group stage, and the full round robin Ro10 stage. Thats plenty of game to watch, and I think that give more games than the previous Code A + code S format, but I may be wrong. I actually kinda like it to be honest.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17610 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-17 08:25:35
January 17 2022 08:13 GMT
#5
On January 17 2022 17:12 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2022 17:05 Die4Ever wrote:
uhh I do not like this format for 2022... any player that wins their ro10 group is gonna show us less games, which means we probably won't even see that much from our champions

seems like downsizing to me, and they're going really out of their way to do it too with this weird format

Everybody still got to play the initial Ro20 group stage, and the full round robin Ro10 stage. Thats plenty of game to watch, and I think that give more games than the previous Code A + code S format, but I may be wrong. I actually kinda like it to be honest.

well yea maybe more games overall, but more games vs the best players? getting rid of the quarterfinals for the top players hurts a lot IMO

and it might make the group selection ceremony even more abusable for the #1 seed
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17610 Posts
January 17 2022 08:41 GMT
#6
lol that void ray fight
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24579 Posts
January 17 2022 08:42 GMT
#7
If you want an image of the future, just imagine Void Rays fighting each other for eternity
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
January 17 2022 08:59 GMT
#8
Zest is hungry of championship but he has to face Rogue again in semifinal. Damn, a rough route for him.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3221 Posts
January 17 2022 09:04 GMT
#9
On January 17 2022 17:59 swarminfestor wrote:
Zest is hungry of championship but he has to face Rogue again in semifinal. Damn, a rough route for him.

He would face Rogue in the Ro8, not the semi. Also, its a potential matchup against Maru in the semi that is scarier for Zest imo.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
January 17 2022 09:13 GMT
#10
wow bunny getting 4 hellion major damage? is this WoL?
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-17 09:36:14
January 17 2022 09:34 GMT
#11
edited. similar post
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
January 17 2022 09:35 GMT
#12
It has been long time I haven't seen Rogue playing Infestors in tournament and win a map with it.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33199 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-17 09:39:13
January 17 2022 09:37 GMT
#13
Initial impressions

Money: Total prize money is the about the same, just $800 less than 2021

Studio days (my projection based on current info): exactly the same for Code S, but one ST removed, so saving four days of studio production cost

Format: ridiculously convoluted, but the round-robin BO10 is an interesting variance-decreasing measure. will wait and see

Sponsors: LG UltraGear monitors dropped from sponsorship
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-17 09:39:42
January 17 2022 09:39 GMT
#14
I think Bunny could and should have dealt more damage to Rogue with his BCs...

And he loses one of them... -_-'
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
January 17 2022 09:40 GMT
#15
Rogue going into Mutas against this is a very typical counter for him and it doesnt seem like Bunny is ready to counter it.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
January 17 2022 09:49 GMT
#16
On January 17 2022 18:37 Waxangel wrote:
Initial impressions

Money: Total prize money is the about the same, just $800 less than 2021

Studio days (my projection based on current info): exactly the same for Code S, but one ST removed, so saving four days of studio production cost

Format: ridiculously convoluted, but the round-robin BO10 is an interesting variance-decreasing measure. will wait and see

Sponsors: LG UltraGear monitors dropped from sponsorship



Afreeca still rocking the best production quality of all SC2 tourneys out there.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
January 17 2022 09:57 GMT
#17
dont build your bane nest in the third Rogue
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17610 Posts
January 17 2022 09:57 GMT
#18
WHAT? Rogue definitely canceled baneling speed, but why?
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
January 17 2022 09:58 GMT
#19
On January 17 2022 18:57 Die4Ever wrote:
WHAT? Rogue definitely canceled baneling speed, but why?


he didnt, Bunny killed the bane nest before speed was done. Rogue place it at the third he had to shack.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17610 Posts
January 17 2022 10:00 GMT
#20
On January 17 2022 18:58 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2022 18:57 Die4Ever wrote:
WHAT? Rogue definitely canceled baneling speed, but why?


he didnt, Bunny killed the bane nest before speed was done. Rogue place it at the third he had to shack.

ohhh haha, yep that sucks
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buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
January 17 2022 10:00 GMT
#21
On January 17 2022 18:49 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2022 18:37 Waxangel wrote:
Initial impressions

Money: Total prize money is the about the same, just $800 less than 2021

Studio days (my projection based on current info): exactly the same for Code S, but one ST removed, so saving four days of studio production cost

Format: ridiculously convoluted, but the round-robin BO10 is an interesting variance-decreasing measure. will wait and see

Sponsors: LG UltraGear monitors dropped from sponsorship



Afreeca still rocking the best production quality of all SC2 tourneys out there.


For sure! I also love that they change up the style each season. I mean, the style for this ST looks good ESL feels the same every season.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17610 Posts
January 17 2022 10:03 GMT
#22
On January 17 2022 19:00 buzz_bender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2022 18:49 Argonauta wrote:
On January 17 2022 18:37 Waxangel wrote:
Initial impressions

Money: Total prize money is the about the same, just $800 less than 2021

Studio days (my projection based on current info): exactly the same for Code S, but one ST removed, so saving four days of studio production cost

Format: ridiculously convoluted, but the round-robin BO10 is an interesting variance-decreasing measure. will wait and see

Sponsors: LG UltraGear monitors dropped from sponsorship



Afreeca still rocking the best production quality of all SC2 tourneys out there.


For sure! I also love that they change up the style each season. I mean, the style for this ST looks good ESL feels the same every season.

the repetition of the ESL music... lol
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17610 Posts
January 17 2022 10:06 GMT
#23
woa that medivac dropped that marine while the medivac was past the cliff of the natural, I knew there was a range to it but it was definitely farther than I expected
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
January 17 2022 10:15 GMT
#24
and with this lose, Rogue secured for himself the Katowice title.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
January 17 2022 10:18 GMT
#25
I have feeling that Rogue may come back in Katowice even dropping out early from the two tournaments already. GG Bunny.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-17 10:22:45
January 17 2022 10:21 GMT
#26
On January 17 2022 19:15 Argonauta wrote:
and with this lose, Rogue secured for himself the Katowice title.


And it does correlates with his downhill performances in between Blizzcon 2017 and Katowice 2018.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3221 Posts
January 17 2022 10:22 GMT
#27
On January 17 2022 19:15 Argonauta wrote:
and with this lose, Rogue secured for himself the Katowice title.

He will come to IEM with God aura radiating, beating the shit out of everyone, and screaming in the interview that every matches were 3-0, 5-0 and 7-0 to him.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
January 17 2022 10:23 GMT
#28
NO STOPPING THE BUNJWA!
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17610 Posts
January 17 2022 10:56 GMT
#29
so what's with the return of BCs? they seem so popular against zerg again suddenly, is it because of Gumiho?
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3375 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-17 11:00:43
January 17 2022 11:00 GMT
#30
On January 17 2022 19:56 Die4Ever wrote:
so what's with the return of BCs? they seem so popular against zerg again suddenly, is it because of Gumiho?

Maybe because of map sizes.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 17 2022 11:01 GMT
#31
I love how Arty said that he hasn't seen many swarmhosts games against mech the last year while 2 days ago Maru showed why xD
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17610 Posts
January 17 2022 11:06 GMT
#32
anti armor missile saved the planetary, CALCULATED
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17610 Posts
January 17 2022 11:07 GMT
#33
On January 17 2022 20:01 deacon.frost wrote:
I love how Arty said that he hasn't seen many swarmhosts games against mech the last year while 2 days ago Maru showed why xD

they definitely don't watch Dreamhack, or any other tournament
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Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
January 17 2022 11:11 GMT
#34
Haha this game really is something else, thanks Maru for existing :D
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
January 17 2022 11:28 GMT
#35
Maru crushed poor armany...
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3221 Posts
January 17 2022 11:48 GMT
#36
Armani did all he could strategically, and he got some good fights as well, but Maru just overwhelmed him in the end with better macro and army composition.
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
January 17 2022 11:48 GMT
#37
I still can't believe that Maru played mech on Glittering Ashes, in one of the largest map in the map pool. I wasn't sure how it would work out.

Hah! Maru in his interview: "I'm not confident in my Zerg matchup..." Yeah right!
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
January 17 2022 12:11 GMT
#38
Are 3/4 liquibet, Rogue let me down. Gotta watch the vods
WriterMaru
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3221 Posts
January 17 2022 12:12 GMT
#39
Trap looks like he has hit rock-bottom in recent weeks, really dont think he can get out of the group stage at IEM. Hero look so much much better, but he cant play in IEM unless Zest forfeit his spot, damn.
parksonsc
Profile Joined May 2019
175 Posts
January 17 2022 12:24 GMT
#40
Is this tournamenr for Maru to loose?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
January 17 2022 12:59 GMT
#41
On January 17 2022 18:37 Waxangel wrote:
Initial impressions

Money: Total prize money is the about the same, just $800 less than 2021

Studio days (my projection based on current info): exactly the same for Code S, but one ST removed, so saving four days of studio production cost

Format: ridiculously convoluted, but the round-robin BO10 is an interesting variance-decreasing measure. will wait and see

Sponsors: LG UltraGear monitors dropped from sponsorship

Well I didn’t buy a LG monitor but a LG Oled TV, that counts right?
Seems good to me overall, could be much worse, and the new format can be fun
WriterMaru
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
January 17 2022 13:00 GMT
#42
On January 17 2022 21:24 parksonsc wrote:
Is this tournamenr for Maru to loose?


Nah, there's still good contenders in Dark, Solar, and Cure. And as long as any Protosses are still in contention, Terrans always have a chance of losing against them.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3221 Posts
January 17 2022 13:18 GMT
#43
On January 17 2022 22:00 buzz_bender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2022 21:24 parksonsc wrote:
Is this tournamenr for Maru to loose?


Nah, there's still good contenders in Dark, Solar, and Cure. And as long as any Protosses are still in contention, Terrans always have a chance of losing against them.

The thing is, all 3 of them will have to fight for the spot into the Grand Final, and Maru only have to beat one of them. As for Protoss, Zest has repeated nightmare about his losses to Maru, and herO might take a game but his long-game macro isnt rivaled to Maru yet. I would give Bunny a better shot because of how familiar he is with Maru play-style, and they probably practice together a whole lot.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
January 17 2022 13:46 GMT
#44
All the players on Maru's bracket stayed late watching his DH games yesterday. All must've freaked out, kept breaking in cold sweat, and not catch a single wink of sleep. Some may have subconsciously figured that exiting earlier is way better than getting PSTD facing Maru's ghosts/ravens. The power of Mesagi!
gg no re thx
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-17 13:51:45
January 17 2022 13:50 GMT
#45
With this 3-0 over Armani (which aligulac doesn't seem to have counted yet), Maru from 3449 vZ rating will be very close to the 3501 peak TvZ record of Clem. Therefore, if Maru wins a series against a good zerg (or even better, wins with a large margin), he will probably beat this record
Pretty impressive given it's mostly on the new mappool
WriterMaru
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 17 2022 14:22 GMT
#46
i hear this Mary guy is pretty decent
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13319 Posts
January 17 2022 14:24 GMT
#47
3/4 today, my boy Classic nearly had it
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 17 2022 15:04 GMT
#48
It's just nice to see that herO is still such a beast.
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States442 Posts
January 17 2022 16:15 GMT
#49
Rogue is really making all the sacrifices to win Katowice isnt he?
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7192 Posts
January 17 2022 16:45 GMT
#50
lol, Maru basically got as lucky as humanly possible with Rogue and Trap getting knocked out immediately
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-17 17:49:43
January 17 2022 17:36 GMT
#51
On January 17 2022 23:24 Durnuu wrote:
3/4 today, my boy Classic nearly had it


Bet the same way I did.

Insert "Predator: Dillon! You son of a bitch" picture.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8988 Posts
January 17 2022 17:56 GMT
#52
On January 18 2022 01:15 Moonerz wrote:
Rogue is really making all the sacrifices to win Katowice isnt he?


There's nothing in this world scarier to go against than Rogue playing like shit
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 17 2022 18:50 GMT
#53
On January 18 2022 02:56 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2022 01:15 Moonerz wrote:
Rogue is really making all the sacrifices to win Katowice isnt he?


There's nothing in this world scarier to go against than Rogue playing like shit

Being a zerg and hearing Maru admiting to not know how to play against Zergs while winning against all the top zerg in the past few months.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
January 17 2022 21:59 GMT
#54
On January 18 2022 03:50 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2022 02:56 Nakajin wrote:
On January 18 2022 01:15 Moonerz wrote:
Rogue is really making all the sacrifices to win Katowice isnt he?


There's nothing in this world scarier to go against than Rogue playing like shit

Being a zerg and hearing Maru admiting to not know how to play against Zergs while winning against all the top zerg in the past few months.


That's just lowkey trolling. Im sure he smirks when he says so
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
January 17 2022 22:06 GMT
#55
On January 18 2022 03:50 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2022 02:56 Nakajin wrote:
On January 18 2022 01:15 Moonerz wrote:
Rogue is really making all the sacrifices to win Katowice isnt he?


There's nothing in this world scarier to go against than Rogue playing like shit

Being a zerg and hearing Maru admiting to not know how to play against Zergs while winning against all the top zerg in the past few months.

Well he lost several series to zergs!
WriterMaru
t5Fab
Profile Joined July 2018
182 Posts
January 17 2022 22:25 GMT
#56
On January 17 2022 20:07 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2022 20:01 deacon.frost wrote:
I love how Arty said that he hasn't seen many swarmhosts games against mech the last year while 2 days ago Maru showed why xD

they definitely don't watch Dreamhack, or any other tournament


Yeah, honestly it has gotten a bit sad in the last years. They are really riding on past successes and not doing their due diligence.
I still love the alchemy and jokes, but the core sounds so lazy by now: no idea of other tournaments, meta changes, strategies... mostly a play by play with short term predictions and lots of nostalgia
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 17 2022 23:46 GMT
#57
On January 18 2022 07:25 t5Fab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2022 20:07 Die4Ever wrote:
On January 17 2022 20:01 deacon.frost wrote:
I love how Arty said that he hasn't seen many swarmhosts games against mech the last year while 2 days ago Maru showed why xD

they definitely don't watch Dreamhack, or any other tournament


Yeah, honestly it has gotten a bit sad in the last years. They are really riding on past successes and not doing their due diligence.
I still love the alchemy and jokes, but the core sounds so lazy by now: no idea of other tournaments, meta changes, strategies... mostly a play by play with short term predictions and lots of nostalgia

I don't mind them losing the interest, but at least don't point to it. Just in the last week I've seen 4 TvZ mech games, 3 of them having swarmhosts, 2 of those lost. It's not a big sample, but mentioning it in a Maru game ignoring his 2 victories is just wrong.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
January 18 2022 00:38 GMT
#58
On January 18 2022 08:46 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2022 07:25 t5Fab wrote:
On January 17 2022 20:07 Die4Ever wrote:
On January 17 2022 20:01 deacon.frost wrote:
I love how Arty said that he hasn't seen many swarmhosts games against mech the last year while 2 days ago Maru showed why xD

they definitely don't watch Dreamhack, or any other tournament


Yeah, honestly it has gotten a bit sad in the last years. They are really riding on past successes and not doing their due diligence.
I still love the alchemy and jokes, but the core sounds so lazy by now: no idea of other tournaments, meta changes, strategies... mostly a play by play with short term predictions and lots of nostalgia

I don't mind them losing the interest, but at least don't point to it. Just in the last week I've seen 4 TvZ mech games, 3 of them having swarmhosts, 2 of those lost. It's not a big sample, but mentioning it in a Maru game ignoring his 2 victories is just wrong.


To be fair to them, it is still *very* recent that the TvZ meta has shifted to mech and SH. It's really only the past 2-3 weeks. If I'm not mistaken, Maru is the one that really brought it in the highest level. I know Gumiho still plays mech more often than others, but really it's only Maru that has any success with mech, and it seems like Cure is also experimenting with it.

But that's only within the last 2-3 weeks, and I can't expect them to be watching every tournament every single week. But overall, your points still stand though. They really haven't kept up with the SC2 scene outside of GSL. I agree with you that they should at the very least do a tiny bit of due diligence.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3221 Posts
January 18 2022 02:12 GMT
#59
On January 18 2022 01:45 Zambrah wrote:
lol, Maru basically got as lucky as humanly possible with Rogue and Trap getting knocked out immediately

Dont think that would matter to be honest, Trap is on horrible shape and it would be hard for him to beat Maru at this form. Rogue would have been knocked out by Zest anyway , seem like he doesnt care about it and focus on IEM.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 18 2022 02:49 GMT
#60
On January 18 2022 01:45 Zambrah wrote:
lol, Maru basically got as lucky as humanly possible with Rogue and Trap getting knocked out immediately

Yeah Maru has definitely been getting lucky with brackets lately, but he gets a pass for having a history of maybe the worst bracket luck of anyone ever.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Lokol18
Profile Joined July 2021
51 Posts
January 18 2022 03:25 GMT
#61
To those saying that maru is getting lucky with his brackets, let's not forget that just a couple of days ago he was paired against dark in the ro8 of dh last chance (the remaining players were solar, reynor, cure, zest, time, and drg)
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12761 Posts
January 18 2022 09:26 GMT
#62
On January 18 2022 12:25 Lokol18 wrote:
To those saying that maru is getting lucky with his brackets, let's not forget that just a couple of days ago he was paired against dark in the ro8 of dh last chance (the remaining players were solar, reynor, cure, zest, time, and drg)

He is not lucky, people are just unlucky to meet him and he is so far ahead of the competition at this point that any player in front of him will be the underdog and you could consider Maru « lucky ».
Winning Katowice is far from a sure thing though. He might win ST1 since Rogue could have blocked him but he lost to Bunny.
WriterMaru
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
521 Posts
January 18 2022 09:44 GMT
#63
On January 18 2022 12:25 Lokol18 wrote:
To those saying that maru is getting lucky with his brackets, let's not forget that just a couple of days ago he was paired against dark in the ro8 of dh last chance (the remaining players were solar, reynor, cure, zest, time, and drg)

I would rather talk about favorable brackets than players getting lucky. Everyone has people and matchups they would rather play than others. For the best players most brackets are favorable. For Maru i would say that every TvT is really favorable. The amount of really good terrans is quite low at the moment, and especially really good TvT terrans.
J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
January 18 2022 10:04 GMT
#64
Great games... Tastosis really need to consider whether they want their job anymore. I am very forgiving and a fan of both of them, but missing the baneling nest kill and speculating as to why Rogue would cancel baneling speed... I was honestly shocked.

And Tasteless in g1 saying something like "Bunny is in trouble", 5 second later "yeah so zerg loses the fight, 5 seconds later Rogue GG's... Artosis "I don't want to be a Debbie downer, but I'm worried Rogue barely wins this game" after Bunny kills 11 drones...

I wish they would stop with all the damn prognostication, it's become a trend and it is a lazy way to fill time and talk without providing any actual PBP. They think they have enough experience to slide by with it and they don't, because nobody does or ever will. Someone can always throw and miracle comebacks do happen.

"Bunny gets in and kills 11 drones! Great start for him, let's see if he can parlay this advantage into something bigger!" Would be perfectly acceptable from them.

They are still great, I just know how much better they can be. That's all.

Great for Bunny and Maru looks incredible.
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 18 2022 10:24 GMT
#65
On January 18 2022 19:04 J. Corsair wrote:
Great games... Tastosis really need to consider whether they want their job anymore. I am very forgiving and a fan of both of them, but missing the baneling nest kill and speculating as to why Rogue would cancel baneling speed... I was honestly shocked.

And Tasteless in g1 saying something like "Bunny is in trouble", 5 second later "yeah so zerg loses the fight, 5 seconds later Rogue GG's... Artosis "I don't want to be a Debbie downer, but I'm worried Rogue barely wins this game" after Bunny kills 11 drones...

I wish they would stop with all the damn prognostication, it's become a trend and it is a lazy way to fill time and talk without providing any actual PBP. They think they have enough experience to slide by with it and they don't, because nobody does or ever will. Someone can always throw and miracle comebacks do happen.

"Bunny gets in and kills 11 drones! Great start for him, let's see if he can parlay this advantage into something bigger!" Would be perfectly acceptable from them.

They are still great, I just know how much better they can be. That's all.

Great for Bunny and Maru looks incredible.

THe prediction part is quite hilarious for another reason. When you see the game is over but there's still time to play to finish the crazy advantage. All the casters pretend the losing player is going to get some miracle and win the game, nobody says - well, the game is over and the player X is waiting to collect his victory while the player Y is hoping for a miracle. But here we are predicting literally everything else xD I still remember one HotS game, where the 2-base Protoss lost 12 probes to a mine drop. EVERYBODY knew it's over. Protoss doesn't have anything to recover. The silence from Tastosis was defeaning, because what can you say - well, that was anticlimactic, he just missed a single medevac and lost the game? Anyway, rant over :D
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3221 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 10:38:51
January 18 2022 10:38 GMT
#66
On January 18 2022 12:25 Lokol18 wrote:
To those saying that maru is getting lucky with his brackets, let's not forget that just a couple of days ago he was paired against dark in the ro8 of dh last chance (the remaining players were solar, reynor, cure, zest, time, and drg)

Well, Serral did win the DH Fall Global Final by dodging Dark and Clem on the bracket, was it because he lucky? or was it because "Serral is the GOAT"?
I do feel like as long as Maru doesnt have to face a long line of Zerg players in the bracket stage, he should be favorable. My worst fear for Maru in IEM would be facing any of Rogue-Dark-Serral-Reynor consecutively in the bracket stage, even if he got a 60+% win rate against those guys, thats still a 20% chance to win against all of them to win a championship.
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
521 Posts
January 18 2022 10:40 GMT
#67
On January 18 2022 19:38 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2022 12:25 Lokol18 wrote:
To those saying that maru is getting lucky with his brackets, let's not forget that just a couple of days ago he was paired against dark in the ro8 of dh last chance (the remaining players were solar, reynor, cure, zest, time, and drg)

Well, Serral did win the DH Fall Global Final by dodging Dark and Clem on the bracket, was it because he lucky? or was it because "Serral is the GOAT"?
I do feel like as long as Maru doesnt have to face a long line of Zerg players in the bracket stage, he should be favorable. My worst fear for Maru in IEM would be facing any of Rogue-Dark-Serral-Reynor consecutively in the bracket stage, even if he got a 60+% win rate against those guys, thats still a 20% chance to win against all of them to win a championship.

I think Rogue, Dark and Serral are the top three players Maru would like to avoid in any case.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15880 Posts
January 18 2022 12:20 GMT
#68
On January 18 2022 19:04 J. Corsair wrote:
Great games... Tastosis really need to consider whether they want their job anymore. I am very forgiving and a fan of both of them, but missing the baneling nest kill and speculating as to why Rogue would cancel baneling speed... I was honestly shocked.

And Tasteless in g1 saying something like "Bunny is in trouble", 5 second later "yeah so zerg loses the fight, 5 seconds later Rogue GG's... Artosis "I don't want to be a Debbie downer, but I'm worried Rogue barely wins this game" after Bunny kills 11 drones...

I wish they would stop with all the damn prognostication, it's become a trend and it is a lazy way to fill time and talk without providing any actual PBP. They think they have enough experience to slide by with it and they don't, because nobody does or ever will. Someone can always throw and miracle comebacks do happen.

"Bunny gets in and kills 11 drones! Great start for him, let's see if he can parlay this advantage into something bigger!" Would be perfectly acceptable from them.

They are still great, I just know how much better they can be. That's all.

Great for Bunny and Maru looks incredible.

Nah disagree... Tastosis are still the GOAT casters and everything they do is good
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
January 18 2022 13:29 GMT
#69
On January 18 2022 19:24 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2022 19:04 J. Corsair wrote:
Great games... Tastosis really need to consider whether they want their job anymore. I am very forgiving and a fan of both of them, but missing the baneling nest kill and speculating as to why Rogue would cancel baneling speed... I was honestly shocked.

And Tasteless in g1 saying something like "Bunny is in trouble", 5 second later "yeah so zerg loses the fight, 5 seconds later Rogue GG's... Artosis "I don't want to be a Debbie downer, but I'm worried Rogue barely wins this game" after Bunny kills 11 drones...

I wish they would stop with all the damn prognostication, it's become a trend and it is a lazy way to fill time and talk without providing any actual PBP. They think they have enough experience to slide by with it and they don't, because nobody does or ever will. Someone can always throw and miracle comebacks do happen.

"Bunny gets in and kills 11 drones! Great start for him, let's see if he can parlay this advantage into something bigger!" Would be perfectly acceptable from them.

They are still great, I just know how much better they can be. That's all.

Great for Bunny and Maru looks incredible.

THe prediction part is quite hilarious for another reason. When you see the game is over but there's still time to play to finish the crazy advantage. All the casters pretend the losing player is going to get some miracle and win the game, nobody says - well, the game is over and the player X is waiting to collect his victory while the player Y is hoping for a miracle. But here we are predicting literally everything else xD I still remember one HotS game, where the 2-base Protoss lost 12 probes to a mine drop. EVERYBODY knew it's over. Protoss doesn't have anything to recover. The silence from Tastosis was defeaning, because what can you say - well, that was anticlimactic, he just missed a single medevac and lost the game? Anyway, rant over :D

I know exactly what you mean lol.
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
January 18 2022 14:27 GMT
#70
On January 18 2022 19:40 HeroSandro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2022 19:38 tigera6 wrote:
On January 18 2022 12:25 Lokol18 wrote:
To those saying that maru is getting lucky with his brackets, let's not forget that just a couple of days ago he was paired against dark in the ro8 of dh last chance (the remaining players were solar, reynor, cure, zest, time, and drg)

Well, Serral did win the DH Fall Global Final by dodging Dark and Clem on the bracket, was it because he lucky? or was it because "Serral is the GOAT"?
I do feel like as long as Maru doesnt have to face a long line of Zerg players in the bracket stage, he should be favorable. My worst fear for Maru in IEM would be facing any of Rogue-Dark-Serral-Reynor consecutively in the bracket stage, even if he got a 60+% win rate against those guys, thats still a 20% chance to win against all of them to win a championship.

I think Rogue, Dark and Serral are the top three players Maru would like to avoid in any case.


To be fair as well, Maru is also the one player that no one wants to face.
Husyelt
Profile Joined May 2020
United States823 Posts
January 18 2022 15:58 GMT
#71
Maru has looked so dominate these last few months. He’s easily the best player in the world at this moment. Watching Bunny take out Rogue was fun to see. He looked genuinely happy. Big variety of plays to do it too.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
521 Posts
January 18 2022 18:06 GMT
#72
On January 18 2022 23:27 buzz_bender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2022 19:40 HeroSandro wrote:
On January 18 2022 19:38 tigera6 wrote:
On January 18 2022 12:25 Lokol18 wrote:
To those saying that maru is getting lucky with his brackets, let's not forget that just a couple of days ago he was paired against dark in the ro8 of dh last chance (the remaining players were solar, reynor, cure, zest, time, and drg)

Well, Serral did win the DH Fall Global Final by dodging Dark and Clem on the bracket, was it because he lucky? or was it because "Serral is the GOAT"?
I do feel like as long as Maru doesnt have to face a long line of Zerg players in the bracket stage, he should be favorable. My worst fear for Maru in IEM would be facing any of Rogue-Dark-Serral-Reynor consecutively in the bracket stage, even if he got a 60+% win rate against those guys, thats still a 20% chance to win against all of them to win a championship.

I think Rogue, Dark and Serral are the top three players Maru would like to avoid in any case.


To be fair as well, Maru is also the one player that no one wants to face.

I think Serral would take Maru any day over Rogue
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7192 Posts
January 18 2022 18:32 GMT
#73
On January 18 2022 19:38 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2022 12:25 Lokol18 wrote:
To those saying that maru is getting lucky with his brackets, let's not forget that just a couple of days ago he was paired against dark in the ro8 of dh last chance (the remaining players were solar, reynor, cure, zest, time, and drg)

Well, Serral did win the DH Fall Global Final by dodging Dark and Clem on the bracket, was it because he lucky? or was it because "Serral is the GOAT"?
I do feel like as long as Maru doesnt have to face a long line of Zerg players in the bracket stage, he should be favorable. My worst fear for Maru in IEM would be facing any of Rogue-Dark-Serral-Reynor consecutively in the bracket stage, even if he got a 60+% win rate against those guys, thats still a 20% chance to win against all of them to win a championship.


Dont forget Jin Air people, Marus achilles heel has always been his teammates for the longest time. Even if Trap doesnt look particularly good at any given moment, or Rogue, or sOs, you never know when they'll just kind of show up against Maru for some reason.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-19 03:44:41
January 19 2022 03:44 GMT
#74
On one hand, feel happy for Bunny. A grinder like Solar who deserves a trophy.

But feels like he got slightly lucky catching Rogue on an off-day. And the tournament is less epic and interesting without Rogue. Zest v Bunny is likely to be a clown fiesta - whoever advancing will likely be smashed by Maru in SF or Dark in finals.

ST always throw up weird upsets. Not sure it's because the tournament is ill-timed (after GSL when players are burn-out or before a big tourney like Katowice where players want to hide prep). It's been ages where we had a truly epic final (last that I remember was Dark v Maru).
gg no re thx
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-19 08:08:25
January 19 2022 08:06 GMT
#75
On January 19 2022 12:44 RKC wrote:
On one hand, feel happy for Bunny. A grinder like Solar who deserves a trophy.

But feels like he got slightly lucky catching Rogue on an off-day. And the tournament is less epic and interesting without Rogue. Zest v Bunny is likely to be a clown fiesta - whoever advancing will likely be smashed by Maru in SF or Dark in finals.

ST always throw up weird upsets. Not sure it's because the tournament is ill-timed (after GSL when players are burn-out or before a big tourney like Katowice where players want to hide prep). It's been ages where we had a truly epic final (last that I remember was Dark v Maru).


I thought that some didn't like Rogue to be in the tournament just because he was accused of killing hype? Mostly it came from the exaggerated 'GOAT' fans but the true Zerg or Sc2 fans didn't care much as they just love having all these nerds playing in the tournament.

In my opinion, Rogue vs Maru in recent ST2 tourney has surpassed the epic final we got from Dark vs Maru in term of excitements and quality of game offered. But, Dark vs Maru in WESG tourney was still embedded in my memory till to this date.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7192 Posts
January 19 2022 12:40 GMT
#76
On January 19 2022 17:06 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2022 12:44 RKC wrote:
On one hand, feel happy for Bunny. A grinder like Solar who deserves a trophy.

But feels like he got slightly lucky catching Rogue on an off-day. And the tournament is less epic and interesting without Rogue. Zest v Bunny is likely to be a clown fiesta - whoever advancing will likely be smashed by Maru in SF or Dark in finals.

ST always throw up weird upsets. Not sure it's because the tournament is ill-timed (after GSL when players are burn-out or before a big tourney like Katowice where players want to hide prep). It's been ages where we had a truly epic final (last that I remember was Dark v Maru).


I thought that some didn't like Rogue to be in the tournament just because he was accused of killing hype? Mostly it came from the exaggerated 'GOAT' fans but the true Zerg or Sc2 fans didn't care much as they just love having all these nerds playing in the tournament.

In my opinion, Rogue vs Maru in recent ST2 tourney has surpassed the epic final we got from Dark vs Maru in term of excitements and quality of game offered. But, Dark vs Maru in WESG tourney was still embedded in my memory till to this date.


I am some.

Same for Maru, if they had both lost in the first round I'd have been pretty hyped for ST
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
encoded_evil
Profile Joined May 2020
29 Posts
January 19 2022 19:14 GMT
#77
dream/solar/dark

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