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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 29 2021 12:26 GMT
#101
On November 29 2021 21:00 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2021 20:53 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Despite getting swept by Maru, both herO and Classic make me quite hopeful for some fiercer protoss resistance in the next year


Not sure what you're going to need to lose hope.


The battered and beaten Protoss spirit is oddly hard to break.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
November 29 2021 12:27 GMT
#102
On November 29 2021 18:57 swarminfestor wrote:
How much TvP streak Cure has recorded till now?


Cure literally lost to Trap, in Dreamhack Winter, just a few weeks ago. In fact, it was Trap that knocked Cure out of Dreamhack Winter.

It's strange how some people have such a short memory.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
November 29 2021 12:40 GMT
#103
How clean did Maru look?
WriterMaru
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
November 29 2021 12:45 GMT
#104
no P in a GSL ST ro4 ; what is this sorcery ?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
November 29 2021 12:45 GMT
#105
(and so happy for Rogue, another elimination at the hands of Dark would have been annoying !)
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3479 Posts
November 29 2021 13:27 GMT
#106
Just catch up on the last game of Maru vs Hero. I think Hero has shown the best PvT in recent tournament, mixing in solid builds with aggressive build and take good fight most of the time. Really hope he can make it into IEM.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 29 2021 13:33 GMT
#107
Let's rename herO to the Hope of Protoss, since the Shield of Aiur is already taken
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
November 29 2021 14:20 GMT
#108
Just watched the Maru series, he was pretty much on point. Funny that the last game started with proxy magic and still ended in a super late game.

Solar looked as confident as ever, will be an interesting ro4.

Cure had a good run but I don’t see him beat Rogue seeing how their games looked in code S. New map pool though, who knows?
WriterMaru
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3479 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-29 15:25:31
November 29 2021 15:23 GMT
#109
I think Maru is so confident in his lategame across all 3 matchups now that he doesnt have to play extra risky in early game. Just play clean and solid macro game, watch for cheese, and hit lategame on a good standing while creating enough pressure on the opponent.
Solar is also considered as one of the best Zerg in lategame, and his problem was how to get there safely, normally he died to either proxy or minedrop or helion runby. Will be interesting if Solar vs Maru would be full of lategame this time around.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 29 2021 16:02 GMT
#110
Solar's endgame currently is named - where is the red dot?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
November 29 2021 16:18 GMT
#111
I can't imagine how herO must have felt at that barracks in game 3
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-29 17:13:24
November 29 2021 17:12 GMT
#112
Missed on Dark and Trap. Trap has definitely fallen from his streak of being the most elite Protoss in the world. Dark vs Rogue is always a toss up.

Either way. Not doing good on my bets this season at all.

Probably going to be another Maru vs Rogue final.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55567 Posts
November 29 2021 18:01 GMT
#113
On November 30 2021 02:12 Vindicare605 wrote:
Trap has definitely fallen from his streak of being the most elite Protoss in the world.

He's sloppy and making many questionable decisions, but thanks to a total lack of competition that has to be taken seriously he's still #1.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
November 29 2021 18:15 GMT
#114
Protoss underperformance is getting concerning fast. Obviously they've been underperforming for a long time in terms of trophies but they've always been fine in terms of ro8/ro4 representation and making it to the finals. For the last few months they've just been doing outright atrocious on every metric besides GM representation.
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
November 29 2021 19:32 GMT
#115
On a happier note, I'm super stoked for Cure vs Rogue again. They had some fantastic games last GSL. And while I feel for the Protoss fans out there, I'll never complain about seeing too many TvZs
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 29 2021 22:03 GMT
#116
On November 30 2021 03:15 JJH777 wrote:
Protoss underperformance is getting concerning fast. Obviously they've been underperforming for a long time in terms of trophies but they've always been fine in terms of ro8/ro4 representation and making it to the finals. For the last few months they've just been doing outright atrocious on every metric besides GM representation.

There were 3 Protosses in the RO8 though. So the representation is OK-ish. In the winter finals we had 2 Protosses in the RO8. KoB is kinda tough considering the top Protosses there were Classic and herO who are still not their top tier pre-army state(although herO is aiming there fast)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
November 29 2021 22:25 GMT
#117
Yea herO is looking like he's the only one who can be a "hero" to Protoss right now.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-29 22:37:34
November 29 2021 22:36 GMT
#118
I honestly wonder if the issue isn't Trap and his nerves. To be the only top tier Protoss has to be an insane pressure. Maru doesn't give a fuck to be the only Terran hope and in the end, he can always show towards the C boys. Zergs are laughing with their world championship streak of 5 different players, 4 still active.

It would actually clarified why did he go full derp after winning the first game against Cure. He has some nice 2nd places at high tournanents so there may be a nerve problem. Well, or maybe I'm projecting :D But imagine the pressure... that must be big.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-11-29 22:50:29
November 29 2021 22:46 GMT
#119
On November 30 2021 07:36 deacon.frost wrote:
I honestly wonder if the issue isn't Trap and his nerves. To be the only top tier Protoss has to be an insane pressure. Maru doesn't give a fuck to be the only Terran hope and in the end, he can always show towards the C boys. Zergs are laughing with their world championship streak of 5 different players, 4 still active.

It would actually clarified why did he go full derp after winning the first game against Cure. He has some nice 2nd places at high tournanents so there may be a nerve problem. Well, or maybe I'm projecting :D But imagine the pressure... that must be big.


I've never considered Trap a "champion quality" player because of his nerves. He lacks the killer mentality that Rogue, Maru, and Dark have. Parting had it. Zest had it. They had their own issues sure but I never doubted their nerves.

He just isn't the kind of player who I would want to rely on to carry a race when its other players are struggling.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
November 29 2021 23:07 GMT
#120
This protoss slump is concerning? Idk... I remember the HoTS early blink days where it took Polt some crazy creativity to win against P. I feel like Terran has seen it before. No zerg slump that I can remember or am I mistaken?

But knowing the game is not so young anymore I can see the concern. I feel like a lategame upgrade that allowed faster warpins within range of a nexus would be interesting. Probably not feasible... I get the sense there aren't any P players who are really trying to push boundaries any more. Maybe they feel their isn't enough incentive this late in the game's lifespan? I'm not sure.

Hoping Maru can make some magic, or a Cure win would be great for him.
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
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