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[DHM 2021] Summer: Season Finals - Playoffs - Page 5

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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-03 18:52:02
July 03 2021 18:50 GMT
#81
On July 04 2021 03:44 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2021 03:35 Elentos wrote:
On July 04 2021 03:24 Nakajin wrote:
On July 04 2021 03:20 JJH777 wrote:
On July 04 2021 03:09 ReachTheSky wrote:
On July 04 2021 02:59 JJH777 wrote:
On July 04 2021 02:50 Pandain wrote:
I feel like this is one of the worst season finals in a while, even in ro8 we have pretty mismatched rounds. And even inno advancing to the semifinals beating only (not even top 5) foreigners.

Hoping for a good ro4 and onwards


How do you support Scarlett not being a top 5 foreigner? Who is clearly better than her currently besides Serral/Reynor/Clem? She is definitely in the tier immediately below them and everyone in that tier is roughly equal imo without enough clear evidence to order it because of the lack of cross region tournaments without Koreans.


If we go by statistics on aligulac as of the time of this post, scarlett is #36. Which non-koreans are above her? Uthermal, Time, Soul, Special, Astrea, Neeb, Lambo, MaxPax, Elazer, Showtime, HeroMarine, Reynor, Serral and Clem. That would put scarlett as #15 out of the top 16 non-koreans with Mana filling the final 16th spot.


Aligulac overrates all of Europe dramatically. I'm surprised it rates Astrea above her. In an important match I would bet on Scarlett over most of that group besides Neeb/Showtime/Special/Time and I would still give her a very high chance vs them.


I'd say as much as Scarlett can feel like a choker from time to time, she's definitely prone to overperform in big tournament, in a random online cup I'd say she's rather low in the ranking. But in big tournament, she's capable of pulling off big upset in a way many other foreigner aren't.

When was the last time Scarlett overperformed in a notable tournament before she got out of the group stage here?



GSL season 1 2020 and WESG 2019 were good performances.

The only noteworthy player she beat at WESG was Special and he wasn't nearly as good as he is today
And in GSL she literally only beat retired players lol. And one upset against Rogue I guess
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
July 03 2021 18:52 GMT
#82
What is this? Dream taking a page out of the book of Maru plays??
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
July 03 2021 18:53 GMT
#83
On July 04 2021 03:52 buzz_bender wrote:
What is this? Dream taking a page out of the book of Maru plays??

He's playing a relaxing campaign mission to warm up.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
July 03 2021 18:57 GMT
#84
Dreams bank is bigger than Reynor's lol
Faker is the GOAT!
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16017 Posts
July 03 2021 18:59 GMT
#85
Can Broodlord Infestor save the day?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33494 Posts
July 03 2021 19:00 GMT
#86
Finally dream getting vehicle armor for his thors
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
July 03 2021 19:03 GMT
#87
Love these long TvZ slugfests. Excellent starcraft right here!
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33494 Posts
July 03 2021 19:07 GMT
#88
On July 04 2021 04:00 Waxangel wrote:
Finally dream getting vehicle armor for his thors


LOL he forgot to get extra armor after +1 like against Lambo
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
July 03 2021 19:07 GMT
#89
The lack of armour lost this fight for Dream
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
July 03 2021 19:09 GMT
#90
How did Dream spend all of his bank? Reynor mist have been being extremely efficient in the last few minutes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55560 Posts
July 03 2021 19:09 GMT
#91
On the one hand I don't think Dream should have gotten this close to winning after the early game ever

On the other hand he should never lose this late game
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
July 03 2021 19:09 GMT
#92
Wtf Dream is doing? just taunt Reynor with false alarm nuke on the clumped Blords.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
July 03 2021 19:10 GMT
#93
This game was like HotS Cinematic
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3443 Posts
July 03 2021 19:11 GMT
#94
Dream was going too much into Thors, I think. He could have added more Libs Vikings as there was almost no anti-air for Zerg units.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
July 03 2021 19:11 GMT
#95
How the fuck did Dream lose this? Did he fight the broodlings all fight long?
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
July 03 2021 19:11 GMT
#96
Massive throw from dream lol. Another Terran who gives the lucky kid free maps?
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3443 Posts
July 03 2021 19:12 GMT
#97
On July 04 2021 04:11 Swisslink wrote:
How the fuck did Dream lose this? Did he fight the broodlings all fight long?

All the Thors were not shooting into Broodlord at the same time, it was a choke point and some of the Thors were pushed behind.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16017 Posts
July 03 2021 19:13 GMT
#98
On July 04 2021 04:11 Swisslink wrote:
How the fuck did Dream lose this? Did he fight the broodlings all fight long?

pure Thor with a few Ghosts apparently isn't that good. Especially if you don't upgrade armor
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
July 03 2021 19:13 GMT
#99
On July 04 2021 03:24 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2021 03:20 JJH777 wrote:
On July 04 2021 03:09 ReachTheSky wrote:
On July 04 2021 02:59 JJH777 wrote:
On July 04 2021 02:50 Pandain wrote:
I feel like this is one of the worst season finals in a while, even in ro8 we have pretty mismatched rounds. And even inno advancing to the semifinals beating only (not even top 5) foreigners.

Hoping for a good ro4 and onwards


How do you support Scarlett not being a top 5 foreigner? Who is clearly better than her currently besides Serral/Reynor/Clem? She is definitely in the tier immediately below them and everyone in that tier is roughly equal imo without enough clear evidence to order it because of the lack of cross region tournaments without Koreans.


If we go by statistics on aligulac as of the time of this post, scarlett is #36. Which non-koreans are above her? Uthermal, Time, Soul, Special, Astrea, Neeb, Lambo, MaxPax, Elazer, Showtime, HeroMarine, Reynor, Serral and Clem. That would put scarlett as #15 out of the top 16 non-koreans with Mana filling the final 16th spot.


Aligulac overrates all of Europe dramatically. I'm surprised it rates Astrea above her. In an important match I would bet on Scarlett over most of that group besides Neeb/Showtime/Special/Time and I would still give her a very high chance vs them.


I'd say as much as Scarlett can feel like a choker from time to time, she's definitely prone to overperform in big tournament, in a random online cup I'd say she's rather low in the ranking. But in big tournament, she's capable of pulling off big upset in a way many other foreigner aren't.

She is an upset specialist, always has been.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
July 03 2021 19:13 GMT
#100
On July 04 2021 02:59 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2021 02:50 Pandain wrote:
I feel like this is one of the worst season finals in a while, even in ro8 we have pretty mismatched rounds. And even inno advancing to the semifinals beating only (not even top 5) foreigners.

Hoping for a good ro4 and onwards


How do you support Scarlett not being a top 5 foreigner? Who is clearly better than her currently besides Serral/Reynor/Clem? She is definitely in the tier immediately below them and everyone in that tier is roughly equal imo without enough clear evidence to order it because of the lack of cross region tournaments without Koreans.

HeroMarine for sure, probably Showtime.
WriterMaru
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