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Mizenhauer
United States1923 Posts
On December 21 2020 09:39 Waxangel wrote: When Protoss does it it's brilliant when Zerg does it it's dirty trickery. Calling scarlett brb Protossed article has somehow become an ode to the beleaguered underdog over the past three years. | ||
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serralfan18
99 Posts
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ZombieGrub
United States714 Posts
On December 21 2020 09:38 Solio wrote: Everyone is free to interpret what he said but don't tell me that he did not say that when what i wrote is exactly what he said. It's damage control, obviously he was not going to say "dark is bad he got lucky" and i'm sure he acknowledges dark's win but we can clearly see he was a bit salty and wanted to find an explanation for serral losing, "he just got outplayed strategically, he still has the best mechanics, dark chose the best builds, even tho he lost he is still better" not to hate on rotti or anything but if dark had lost to serral like that i'm pretty sure it would have been different. I was hoping you'd find the clip so we could talk about how his tone was clearly communicating praise. If he was saying "yeah but yknow...it really was all about strategy, maybe if Serral could've played a mechanics based game, Dark would've had trouble" in a hesitant manner, I'd understand where you're coming from. But Rotti had been doing nothing but PRAISING Dark for how well he's playing, how perfect some of his games were, how insane his bracket run is, etc. He's talking about this strategy point with a huge smile on his face as he attempts to show how SMART Dark is being, how amazing it is he won so hard so fast because his strategies were great. You could even have said "I wish Rotti hadn't just highlighted that, it sounded like he doesn't think Dark would win a mechanical series" and I would've understood that. But no, you say he's so bitter, that it's damage control, that he's salty, that he wouldn't be praising the exact same thing if it had been a Serral 4-0. You're just wrong. So, so wrong, and really putting Rotti in a bad light by not grasping tone or context. How you listened to the rest of the day where Rotti was praising Dark left, right, and center and come up with the conclusion that Rotti was doing damage control...yeesh. | ||
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lolkuci
1 Post
On December 21 2020 10:53 ZombieGrub wrote: I was hoping you'd find the clip so we could talk about how his tone was clearly communicating praise. If he was saying "yeah but yknow...it really was all about strategy, maybe if Serral could've played a mechanics based game, Dark would've had trouble" in a hesitant manner, I'd understand where you're coming from. But Rotti had been doing nothing but PRAISING Dark for how well he's playing, how perfect some of his games were, how insane his bracket run is, etc. He's talking about this strategy point with a huge smile on his face as he attempts to show how SMART Dark is being, how amazing it is he won so hard so fast because his strategies were great. You could even have said "I wish Rotti hadn't just highlighted that, it sounded like he doesn't think Dark would win a mechanical series" and I would've understood that. But no, you say he's so bitter, that it's damage control, that he's salty, that he wouldn't be praising the exact same thing if it had been a Serral 4-0. You're just wrong. So, so wrong, and really putting Rotti in a bad light by not grasping tone or context. How you listened to the rest of the day where Rotti was praising Dark left, right, and center and come up with the conclusion that Rotti was doing damage control...yeesh. People have provided the part you are able to listen to again and again he said and I quote: "THIS IS NOT THAT HE OUTPLAYED SERRAL FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END WITH MULTITASKING, MICRO. NO. HE SIMPLY CHOSE BETTER STRATEGIES." Yeah that must be admiration. I just had to register to point that out to you and anybody reading your message ignoring the evidence you yourself have ignored and your obvious bias and yet again another attempt to damage control due to lack of objectivity. Please don't go any further on that matter as people are able to make their own mind: https://clips.twitch.tv/HeadstrongViscousHyenaKAPOW Watch and have a good night. | ||
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mikedupp
233 Posts
I was actually surprised how much Rotti was gushing over Dark throughout this tournament and especially today. Watch Dark vs Showtime and you might think Rotti openly wants Dark to win. | ||
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SamirDuran
Philippines895 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
It's also really nice to see Dark back at his best again. What a beast he is | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
What a great ending to 2020! As sickened I am with Zerg scum, I always have a soft spot for Dark. From Blizzcon champ to wrist pains to a sharp fall from grace. And now what a comeback! Didn't manage to catch any of his games (except against uThermal where he looked shaky). On a more ominous note, 2020 ends with a ZvZ final. Protoss getting their asses kicked (despite a false dawn in ST). Top Terrans still lacking consistency. Oh well. Some things never change... | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On December 21 2020 09:38 Solio wrote: Everyone is free to interpret what he said but don't tell me that he did not say that when what i wrote is exactly what he said. It's damage control, obviously he was not going to say "dark is bad he got lucky" and i'm sure he acknowledges dark's win but we can clearly see he was a bit salty and wanted to find an explanation for serral losing, "he just got outplayed strategically, he still has the best mechanics, dark chose the best builds, even tho he lost he is still better" not to hate on rotti or anything but if dark had lost to serral like that i'm pretty sure it would have been different. You are laughably wrong, Rotti never used the word macro in that clip so when you say what it is exactly what he said, you basically announced to the whole world that you have no ability to listen to what someone is saying. You said that Rotti said this: On December 21 2020 09:13 Solio wrote: Serral HUMILIATED hahaha rotti "b-but dark didnt outplay serral, he didnt have better micro or macro, he just used better strategies thats why he won" hahahaha This is what Rotti actually said: it's not that he (Dark) outplayed Serral from the beginning to the end with multitasking or micro So yeah you're actually dumb Also, On December 21 2020 09:10 Morbidius wrote: Rotti is so bitter. ''Dark was inferior in micro and macro, he just chose the right builds!'' you two must be super bad at English. Go listen to that clip again. Rotti said "it's not that he (Dark) outplayed Serral from the beginning to the end with multitasking or micro," if you listen carefully, Rotti didn't even use the word macro in that line. Rotti only talked about Darks strategic genius, not once talking about whether or not he was superior to Serral in macro or micro. The phrase "it's not that he (Dark) outplayed Serral from the beginning to the end with multitasking or micro" does not in any mean that either of Dark or Serral outmuscle the other in the micro/multitasking department. It's a very neutral statement. Rotti is not bitter at all. In fact it's you two who can't even grasp basic English grammar, quit being a fuking party-pooper and making Rotti sound bad because you two have an inability to comprehend what he is saying. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
Everyone know Rotti and most casters are biased towards Reynor/Serral duo. You will never expect them to say someone played better than Serral despite a 4:0, or a 3:0 (remember they always blame broken ravens for the Maru 3:0 Serral) but at least what Rotti said was not far off and its not a big of a deal | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
 Sometimes the destiny delivers | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7167 Posts
Unfortunately I had to sleep after Maru vs Dark. Just did the recap and wow. Dark casually 7:0'd ByuN and Serral. GG Dark. Blame it on injuries, sleeplessness or whatever. Dark delivered BIG TIME after a crazy gauntlet of the best players in the world | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Where the games close or one-sided? | ||
Waxangel
United States33592 Posts
On December 21 2020 17:53 Musicus wrote: Holy shit, I missed the annihilation of Serral it seems? Where the games close or one-sided? They were quite one-sided as Dark seemed to have the strategic/build orderic advantage in every single game. It was one of those unfortunate (for a neutral fan) series where one side never really got to play their game. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On December 21 2020 17:55 Waxangel wrote: They were quite one-sided as Dark seemed to have the strategic/build orderic advantage in every single game. It was one of those unfortunate (for a neutral fan) series where one side never really got to play their game. okay, doesn't sound great but I will still watch it, just because it's something else to see Serral go 0-4 | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50878 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
On December 21 2020 14:17 AzAlexZ wrote: Solio you are actually so wrong, but here, I'll demonstrate to you why: You are laughably wrong, Rotti never used the word macro in that clip so when you say what it is exactly what he said, you basically announced to the whole world that you have no ability to listen to what someone is saying. You said that Rotti said this: This is what Rotti actually said: it's not that he (Dark) outplayed Serral from the beginning to the end with multitasking or micro So yeah you're actually dumb Also, you two must be super bad at English. Go listen to that clip again. Rotti said "it's not that he (Dark) outplayed Serral from the beginning to the end with multitasking or micro," if you listen carefully, Rotti didn't even use the word macro in that line. Rotti only talked about Darks strategic genius, not once talking about whether or not he was superior to Serral in macro or micro. The phrase "it's not that he (Dark) outplayed Serral from the beginning to the end with multitasking or micro" does not in any mean that either of Dark or Serral outmuscle the other in the micro/multitasking department. It's a very neutral statement. Rotti is not bitter at all. In fact it's you two who can't even grasp basic English grammar, quit being a fuking party-pooper and making Rotti sound bad because you two have an inability to comprehend what he is saying. At first I thought too that it's bullshit to interpret something like this in Rotti's statement but then I asked myself:"would Rotti have said the same if Serral did to Dark exactly what Dark did to him?" and the answer was a clear no - I can't imagine that - he never would've felt the need to point out that the win was purely based on strategical choices and not on mechanics. but I don't think it's a big deal at all or that he intentionally tried to sell Dark short. | ||
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