EPTSo all people telling the world: « it’s fine if Koreans play from 10pm to 6am lol, they adapted their sleep schedule » what is your take now? Lmao.
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Poopi
France12909 Posts
So all people telling the world: « it’s fine if Koreans play from 10pm to 6am lol, they adapted their sleep schedule » what is your take now? Lmao. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16044 Posts
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Anc13nt
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On December 21 2020 18:12 Charoisaur wrote: At first I thought too that it's bullshit to interpret something like this in Rotti's statement but then I asked myself:"would Rotti have said the same if Serral did to Dark exactly what Dark did to him?" and the answer was a clear no - I can't imagine that - he never would've felt the need to point out that the win was purely based on strategical choices and not on mechanics. but I don't think it's a big deal at all or that he intentionally tried to sell Dark short. not sure why it is even controversial that a lot of casters might be a bit biased in favour of foreign players. They can relate more to them because many of the casters were foreign esports players themselves. I don't have a problem with this in general though. Maybe only at times where it feels like they are focusing on Serral's side of the game a bit too much but that might just be my own bias lol. | ||
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serralfan18
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
On December 21 2020 18:26 Charoisaur wrote: Btw where are the jokes about korean ZvZ? Give it a week. | ||
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Poopi
France12909 Posts
On December 21 2020 18:50 serralfan18 wrote: Dark beat Serral fair and square. Dark always had superior mechanics and strategy to Serral. Never once was Dark an inferior player to Serral. I highly doubt Dark will be able to beat Serral in offline tournaments (if they do indeed happen next year), such as IEM for example. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16044 Posts
On December 21 2020 19:00 Poopi wrote: I highly doubt Dark will be able to beat Serral in offline tournaments (if they do indeed happen next year), such as IEM for example. How do you come to that conclusion after Dark just 4-0ed Serral with very unfavorable conditions to him (playing at 9 in the morning after playing all night back to back bo5s while Serral was well rested and played at a much more reasonable hour)? | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7090 Posts
On December 21 2020 18:50 serralfan18 wrote: Dark beat Serral fair and square. Dark always had superior mechanics and strategy to Serral. Never once was Dark an inferior player to Serral. I'm a Noob concering Aligulac, but this kinda contradicts what your are saying: Last 3 years: Found 5 matches. Under these filters, Serral is 12–8 (60.00%) in games and 4–1 (80.00%) in matches against Dark. TSL #6 Main Event Final 12/20/2020 Serral FI Z 0–4 Z KR Dark TSL #6 Main Event WB Ro16 12/12/2020 Serral FI Z 3–2 Z KR Dark WESG 2018 Main Event Playoffs Ro8 03/14/2019 Serral FI Z 3–1 Z KR Dark WCS 2018 Blizzcon Ro8 11/02/2018 Serral FI Z 3–0 Z KR Dark GSL 2018 GSL vs. the World Main Event Ro4 08/04/2018 Serral FI Z 3–1 Z KR Dark | ||
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Poopi
France12909 Posts
On December 21 2020 19:23 Charoisaur wrote: How do you come to that conclusion after Dark just 4-0ed Serral with very unfavorable conditions to him (playing at 9 in the morning after playing all night back to back bo5s while Serral was well rested and played at a much more reasonable hour)? Because Dark is still a top zerg when not too much affected by his health issues, so it's possible he beats Serral, but watching both play at peak form in offline tournaments (that matters more than online tournaments), Serral is still capable of much more than Dark. It's my head prediction though, heart I don't care much about either result. | ||
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria837 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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TheCheapSkate
Slovenia317 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26270 Posts
I still think it’s fair to simultaneously view Dark stomping Serral here and think if Serral hadn’t botched the final set against Reynor he’d have been the favourite against Dark at the 2019 Blizzcon. Be it other players getting better or him falling off in that matchup his ZvZ was immense 2018 thru 2019 Not sure why Rotti’s comments are being taken the way they are by some people, he’s obviously praising Dark’s superiority in strategic choices in this series, which are rather an important part of a competitive strategy game | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
EDIT: you people trashing Rotti are like reading Twitch chat, please keep your asinine bullshit isolated to that cesspit please and thank you, lol Only Rotti love. <3 | ||
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allmotor1
153 Posts
On December 21 2020 19:38 Poopi wrote: Because Dark is still a top zerg when not too much affected by his health issues, so it's possible he beats Serral, but watching both play at peak form in offline tournaments (that matters more than online tournaments), Serral is still capable of much more than Dark. It's my head prediction though, heart I don't care much about either result. "much more" capable exxagerated. DArk/Serral have always been very close in skill. If one is better than the other at any particular time, it is not a huge margin. | ||
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NotSoHappy
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Arghmyliver
United States1077 Posts
Dark Fans: "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeee DARK HAS AS MANY HAND SERRAL HAS!" Everyone else: ??? | ||
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Poopi
France12909 Posts
On December 21 2020 23:52 allmotor1 wrote: "much more" capable exxagerated. DArk/Serral have always been very close in skill. If one is better than the other at any particular time, it is not a huge margin. I think Serral and Dark have different strengths really. Serral is more a player that will play the "perfect" answers / strategies, with superb mechanics. He will be on top when zerg is on top (for example in ZvT), but will have more troubles when it isn't the case (see WESG 2018 vs Maru). Whereas Dark is a bit more wild in his play and won't necessarily try to play the "perfect" way, which allows him (and Rogue for that matter) to still be fine in ZvT even vs the raven play from Maru in WESG and other tournaments they met in 2018. He also can play "dirty" strats in ZvZ, so sometimes he will look like a god (beating Reynor in BlizzCon finals for example) and sometimes look dumb losing with such strats. But regarding peak zerg play, I think Serral went over Dark (much more might be too strong words I guess) in several instances, in different tournaments, and in all matchups to be honest. | ||
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NotSoHappy
445 Posts
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allmotor1
153 Posts
On December 22 2020 01:48 Poopi wrote: I think Serral and Dark have different strengths really. Serral is more a player that will play the "perfect" answers / strategies, with superb mechanics. He will be on top when zerg is on top (for example in ZvT), but will have more troubles when it isn't the case (see WESG 2018 vs Maru). Whereas Dark is a bit more wild in his play and won't necessarily try to play the "perfect" way, which allows him (and Rogue for that matter) to still be fine in ZvT even vs the raven play from Maru in WESG and other tournaments they met in 2018. He also can play "dirty" strats in ZvZ, so sometimes he will look like a god (beating Reynor in BlizzCon finals for example) and sometimes look dumb losing with such strats. But regarding peak zerg play, I think Serral went over Dark (much more might be too strong words I guess) in several instances, in different tournaments, and in all matchups to be honest. sure they aren't exactly the same of course in terms of their strengths and weaknesses and variances in their styles sure. but my point still stands, the overall skill difference between those two is negligible, both are amazing in top form. | ||
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