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Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
December 20 2020 16:33 GMT
#21
Its almost 2021 and progamers still make Ultras
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
December 20 2020 16:33 GMT
#22
Showtime had everything that counters Ultras... What a weird game.
irvnasty
Profile Joined July 2019
United States211 Posts
December 20 2020 16:33 GMT
#23
Dark headbutting archons with Ultras rather than just having 30-40 hydras was pretty bad.
GuMiho | TY | TIME | AqueroN | Rogue | RagnaroK | Scarlett | sOs | Astrea
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
December 20 2020 16:34 GMT
#24
What a cool game. Zerg swarming the protoss everywhere, Protoss barely holding and then such a close fight to finish off the game. Amzaing game to watch :-)
Good job Showtime.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
December 20 2020 16:34 GMT
#25
On December 21 2020 01:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
Ultras into loss to open the day, 10/10


Yeah ultras are supposed to be tanky but they take MASSIVE damage from immortals, archons, void rays, lurkers, widow mines (like wtf??), thors, and siege tanks. Like they arent even tanky I don't get it lol
irvnasty
Profile Joined July 2019
United States211 Posts
December 20 2020 16:35 GMT
#26
On December 21 2020 01:34 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2020 01:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
Ultras into loss to open the day, 10/10


Yeah ultras are supposed to be tanky but they take MASSIVE damage from immortals, archons, void rays, lurkers, widow mines (like wtf??), thors, and siege tanks. Like they arent even tanky I don't get it lol


Don't forget ghosts making five of them explode as they hopelessly retreat, which is my personal favorite way to watch ultras die.
GuMiho | TY | TIME | AqueroN | Rogue | RagnaroK | Scarlett | sOs | Astrea
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
December 20 2020 16:35 GMT
#27
On December 21 2020 01:33 irvnasty wrote:
Dark headbutting archons with Ultras rather than just having 30-40 hydras was pretty bad.


Hydras are bad once they have 100+ army supply though. They just get stormed and the interceptors melt them
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-20 16:39:03
December 20 2020 16:36 GMT
#28
On December 21 2020 01:35 irvnasty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2020 01:34 TentativePanda wrote:
On December 21 2020 01:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
Ultras into loss to open the day, 10/10


Yeah ultras are supposed to be tanky but they take MASSIVE damage from immortals, archons, void rays, lurkers, widow mines (like wtf??), thors, and siege tanks. Like they arent even tanky I don't get it lol


Don't forget ghosts making five of them explode as they hopelessly retreat, which is my personal favorite way to watch ultras die.


How could I forget. Oh yeah, maybe because the "tanky" zerg unit gets melted by half the mid/high tech units in the game.

EDIT: Oh and liberators LOL

EDIT 2: Oh and cyclones do good damage to them and kite them forever. Oh and marauders are honestly pretty good vs them
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-20 16:40:56
December 20 2020 16:40 GMT
#29
when ultras where acutally tanky tvz was the worst matchup to play off all. 7 armor ultralisk never forget
~~~~~
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States839 Posts
December 20 2020 16:40 GMT
#30
On December 21 2020 01:36 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2020 01:35 irvnasty wrote:
On December 21 2020 01:34 TentativePanda wrote:
On December 21 2020 01:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
Ultras into loss to open the day, 10/10


Yeah ultras are supposed to be tanky but they take MASSIVE damage from immortals, archons, void rays, lurkers, widow mines (like wtf??), thors, and siege tanks. Like they arent even tanky I don't get it lol


Don't forget ghosts making five of them explode as they hopelessly retreat, which is my personal favorite way to watch ultras die.


How could I forget. Oh yeah, maybe because the "tanky" zerg unit gets melted by half the mid/high tech units in the game.

EDIT: Oh and liberators LOL

EDIT 2: Oh and cyclones do good damage to them and kite them forever. Oh and marauders are honestly pretty good vs them

Ultras would be so much scarier if they walked over lings and still could attack. At least they do splash damage!
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
December 20 2020 16:41 GMT
#31
On December 21 2020 01:40 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
when ultras where acutally tanky tvz was the worst matchup to play off all. 7 armor ultralisk never forget

It was 8, 7 is what they get to now.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
December 20 2020 16:42 GMT
#32
On December 21 2020 01:40 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
when ultras where acutally tanky tvz was the worst matchup to play off all. 8 armor ultralisk never forget


8 armor ultras were OP. I think things went wrong when they buffed terran vs protoss, and widow mines and other units were inadvertently really good vs ultras suddenly
irvnasty
Profile Joined July 2019
United States211 Posts
December 20 2020 16:42 GMT
#33
That's a win for Dark... I think?
GuMiho | TY | TIME | AqueroN | Rogue | RagnaroK | Scarlett | sOs | Astrea
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10122 Posts
December 20 2020 16:42 GMT
#34
great hold
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
December 20 2020 16:43 GMT
#35
I don't like how slowly Showtime gets +1 air despite opening 2 Stargate. He's had plenty of time and money to have it by now, or at least starting it by now
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
December 20 2020 16:43 GMT
#36
On December 21 2020 01:42 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2020 01:40 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
when ultras where acutally tanky tvz was the worst matchup to play off all. 8 armor ultralisk never forget


8 armor ultras were OP. I think things went wrong when they buffed terran vs protoss, and widow mines and other units were inadvertently really good vs ultras suddenly

how has any widow mine change impacted the way they kill ultras
~~~~~
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10122 Posts
December 20 2020 16:43 GMT
#37
not enough for the 2nd wave though
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
irvnasty
Profile Joined July 2019
United States211 Posts
December 20 2020 16:44 GMT
#38
On December 21 2020 01:42 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2020 01:40 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
when ultras where acutally tanky tvz was the worst matchup to play off all. 8 armor ultralisk never forget


8 armor ultras were OP. I think things went wrong when they buffed terran vs protoss, and widow mines and other units were inadvertently really good vs ultras suddenly


I've always advocated for an upgrade to give Ultras a barrel roll ability where they roll slowly in a set direction about the distance of a stalker blink. They can't change direction, but they also don't take any damage, so they could roll over mines or through liberation zones.

Is this balanced? Probably not. Is it a good idea? No. Would we get to watch ultras do somersaults? Yes, yes we would.
GuMiho | TY | TIME | AqueroN | Rogue | RagnaroK | Scarlett | sOs | Astrea
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-20 16:45:40
December 20 2020 16:44 GMT
#39
On December 21 2020 01:40 Husyelt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2020 01:36 TentativePanda wrote:
On December 21 2020 01:35 irvnasty wrote:
On December 21 2020 01:34 TentativePanda wrote:
On December 21 2020 01:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
Ultras into loss to open the day, 10/10


Yeah ultras are supposed to be tanky but they take MASSIVE damage from immortals, archons, void rays, lurkers, widow mines (like wtf??), thors, and siege tanks. Like they arent even tanky I don't get it lol


Don't forget ghosts making five of them explode as they hopelessly retreat, which is my personal favorite way to watch ultras die.


How could I forget. Oh yeah, maybe because the "tanky" zerg unit gets melted by half the mid/high tech units in the game.

EDIT: Oh and liberators LOL

EDIT 2: Oh and cyclones do good damage to them and kite them forever. Oh and marauders are honestly pretty good vs them

Ultras would be so much scarier if they walked over lings and still could attack. At least they do splash damage!


Don't forget blink, they should definitely have blink.


On December 21 2020 01:44 irvnasty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2020 01:42 TentativePanda wrote:
On December 21 2020 01:40 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
when ultras where acutally tanky tvz was the worst matchup to play off all. 8 armor ultralisk never forget


8 armor ultras were OP. I think things went wrong when they buffed terran vs protoss, and widow mines and other units were inadvertently really good vs ultras suddenly


I've always advocated for an upgrade to give Ultras a barrel roll ability where they roll slowly in a set direction about the distance of a stalker blink. They can't change direction, but they also don't take any damage, so they could roll over mines or through liberation zones.

Is this balanced? Probably not. Is it a good idea? No. Would we get to watch ultras do somersaults? Yes, yes we would.


Excellent post.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-20 16:46:53
December 20 2020 16:44 GMT
#40
On December 21 2020 01:43 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2020 01:42 TentativePanda wrote:
On December 21 2020 01:40 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
when ultras where acutally tanky tvz was the worst matchup to play off all. 8 armor ultralisk never forget


8 armor ultras were OP. I think things went wrong when they buffed terran vs protoss, and widow mines and other units were inadvertently really good vs ultras suddenly

how has any widow mine change impacted the way they kill ultras


Didn't they buff the vs armor damage? If they didn't, have they always dealt an ultra like 1/4 of its hp while splashing on all the lings around it?

EDIT: It was shields they buffed it against which is good. But yeah I stand by the fact a 75/25 unit supposed to be good against clumped low tier units should not also be good vs 300/200 ultra
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