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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
November 15 2020 17:24 GMT
#1121
On November 16 2020 02:23 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 02:21 [PkF] Wire wrote:
wait I went to the bathroom for like one minute and Serral just killed Stats ?


There was a bane drop he didn't see, 18 probes dead. Then Serral kept attacking the 4th and overwhelmed it just before carriers came out.

thanks for the summary
MASTERCAKES
Profile Joined March 2012
United States127 Posts
November 15 2020 17:24 GMT
#1122
On November 16 2020 02:23 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 02:16 MASTERCAKES wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:14 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:14 Nebuchad wrote:
Protoss starts crying if they don't win a major in a full year, zerg starts crying when they lose the first game in a Bo7. Clowns =)

"tournament wins aren't a relevant statistic"

sometimes they even bring up Neebs NA wins as if those count.

Liquipedia ranks them the same way though.

The Liquipedia tiers are very arbitrary. Shouldn't at all be used as a metric to define a player's tournament success.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
November 15 2020 17:25 GMT
#1123
On November 16 2020 02:21 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 02:21 stilt wrote:
Wut, I turn off the stream 1 minutes and Stats is dead.

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 02:21 [PkF] Wire wrote:
wait I went to the bathroom for like one minute and Serral just killed Stats ?

feel you mate


haha, I had to watch the replay of og, quite a meh game
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-15 17:31:49
November 15 2020 17:31 GMT
#1124
mutas against triple stargate... That's bold to say the least

edit : sry for the double post
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 15 2020 17:31 GMT
#1125
On November 16 2020 02:22 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 02:20 MASTERCAKES wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:18 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:15 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:13 darklycid wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:12 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:10 darklycid wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:09 stilt wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:07 darklycid wrote:
I love how suddenly the zergs start crying because serral lost one lategame xD


No ones is saying P op contrary to you who QQ each time a toss loses an unit.

I lterally just saw a post talking aboput serral shouldn't let it go to lategame beacause once 10 carriers hit it's impossible.


Bro. That was me and its entirely true. Everyone agrees ZvP lategame is impossible. Serral seemed content letting it get there, a mistake. Zerg has a stronger mid game and he didnt leverage it. Im a huge Stats and Serral fanboy. How the fuck did you miscontrue this has QQ balance whining. Relax my dude

"it's not balance whining if it's the truth"

Yeah i don't even wanna comment on this dellusion.
e: also i don't wanna make a statement on pvz lategame as it isn't long enough in this state to do that imo, but what i can say is that i don't like it.


Delusion lmao. Yall are so pathetic


Correct, but Zerg midgame isnt as dominant as Protoss lategame. Protoss has an easier time winning in mid game than zerg does in lategame. So yes, game ends in midgame more often, but Protoss can certainly win there. Its extreme to say Zerg CANT win in lategame but they need to enter it very ahead

If you look back on my post from an hour ago, I think ZvP is balanced winrate wise. However, its balanced by the extremes of a great Protoss lategame and a great Zerg mid game. But go on framing me as a balance whiner haha


The issue is that since the midgame comes first, Protoss isn't usually able to get to where they have the advantage.


EDIT: Lol my post never posted? Wtf

Anyway, zerg midgame isnt as dominant as protoss lategame. So Protoss CAN win in midgame.


The last 16 months of Starcraft disagree with you. And if you're going to say "PvZ was a problem before, but now Protoss is fine" we've heard that every patch and map pool change since then.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3562 Posts
November 15 2020 17:34 GMT
#1126
On November 16 2020 02:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 02:22 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:20 MASTERCAKES wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:18 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:15 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:13 darklycid wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:12 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:10 darklycid wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:09 stilt wrote:
[quote]

No ones is saying P op contrary to you who QQ each time a toss loses an unit.

I lterally just saw a post talking aboput serral shouldn't let it go to lategame beacause once 10 carriers hit it's impossible.


Bro. That was me and its entirely true. Everyone agrees ZvP lategame is impossible. Serral seemed content letting it get there, a mistake. Zerg has a stronger mid game and he didnt leverage it. Im a huge Stats and Serral fanboy. How the fuck did you miscontrue this has QQ balance whining. Relax my dude

"it's not balance whining if it's the truth"

Yeah i don't even wanna comment on this dellusion.
e: also i don't wanna make a statement on pvz lategame as it isn't long enough in this state to do that imo, but what i can say is that i don't like it.


Delusion lmao. Yall are so pathetic


Correct, but Zerg midgame isnt as dominant as Protoss lategame. Protoss has an easier time winning in mid game than zerg does in lategame. So yes, game ends in midgame more often, but Protoss can certainly win there. Its extreme to say Zerg CANT win in lategame but they need to enter it very ahead

If you look back on my post from an hour ago, I think ZvP is balanced winrate wise. However, its balanced by the extremes of a great Protoss lategame and a great Zerg mid game. But go on framing me as a balance whiner haha


The issue is that since the midgame comes first, Protoss isn't usually able to get to where they have the advantage.


EDIT: Lol my post never posted? Wtf

Anyway, zerg midgame isnt as dominant as protoss lategame. So Protoss CAN win in midgame.


The last 16 months of Starcraft disagree with you. And if you're going to say "PvZ was a problem before, but now Protoss is fine" we've heard that every patch and map pool change since then.

If i would say x is unbeatable because i lose to it now, i don't know what you would call me but i don't think it would be 'reasonable'. Aslo how often did we see this lategame? Not enough to make those statements imo.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33707 Posts
November 15 2020 17:35 GMT
#1127
this macro void ray opener is so fucking weird. I dunno why it works, but it does.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3562 Posts
November 15 2020 17:37 GMT
#1128
Yeah not too sure if this muta vs 3sg was so good.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
November 15 2020 17:37 GMT
#1129
Statsuuuuuu
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
November 15 2020 17:37 GMT
#1130
On November 16 2020 02:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 02:22 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:20 MASTERCAKES wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:18 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:15 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:13 darklycid wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:12 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:10 darklycid wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:09 stilt wrote:
[quote]

No ones is saying P op contrary to you who QQ each time a toss loses an unit.

I lterally just saw a post talking aboput serral shouldn't let it go to lategame beacause once 10 carriers hit it's impossible.


Bro. That was me and its entirely true. Everyone agrees ZvP lategame is impossible. Serral seemed content letting it get there, a mistake. Zerg has a stronger mid game and he didnt leverage it. Im a huge Stats and Serral fanboy. How the fuck did you miscontrue this has QQ balance whining. Relax my dude

"it's not balance whining if it's the truth"

Yeah i don't even wanna comment on this dellusion.
e: also i don't wanna make a statement on pvz lategame as it isn't long enough in this state to do that imo, but what i can say is that i don't like it.


Delusion lmao. Yall are so pathetic


Correct, but Zerg midgame isnt as dominant as Protoss lategame. Protoss has an easier time winning in mid game than zerg does in lategame. So yes, game ends in midgame more often, but Protoss can certainly win there. Its extreme to say Zerg CANT win in lategame but they need to enter it very ahead

If you look back on my post from an hour ago, I think ZvP is balanced winrate wise. However, its balanced by the extremes of a great Protoss lategame and a great Zerg mid game. But go on framing me as a balance whiner haha


The issue is that since the midgame comes first, Protoss isn't usually able to get to where they have the advantage.


EDIT: Lol my post never posted? Wtf

Anyway, zerg midgame isnt as dominant as protoss lategame. So Protoss CAN win in midgame.


The last 16 months of Starcraft disagree with you. And if you're going to say "PvZ was a problem before, but now Protoss is fine" we've heard that every patch and map pool change since then.


Oh shit did stats just win in the mid game?? Lol
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-15 17:40:06
November 15 2020 17:38 GMT
#1131
Stats did beat Serral on his way to winning Assembly last time Protoss won an important event, so it would be going full circle in a way.

On November 16 2020 02:37 TentativePanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 02:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:22 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:20 MASTERCAKES wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:18 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:15 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:13 darklycid wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:13 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:12 TentativePanda wrote:
On November 16 2020 02:10 darklycid wrote:
[quote]
I lterally just saw a post talking aboput serral shouldn't let it go to lategame beacause once 10 carriers hit it's impossible.


Bro. That was me and its entirely true. Everyone agrees ZvP lategame is impossible. Serral seemed content letting it get there, a mistake. Zerg has a stronger mid game and he didnt leverage it. Im a huge Stats and Serral fanboy. How the fuck did you miscontrue this has QQ balance whining. Relax my dude

"it's not balance whining if it's the truth"

Yeah i don't even wanna comment on this dellusion.
e: also i don't wanna make a statement on pvz lategame as it isn't long enough in this state to do that imo, but what i can say is that i don't like it.


Delusion lmao. Yall are so pathetic


Correct, but Zerg midgame isnt as dominant as Protoss lategame. Protoss has an easier time winning in mid game than zerg does in lategame. So yes, game ends in midgame more often, but Protoss can certainly win there. Its extreme to say Zerg CANT win in lategame but they need to enter it very ahead

If you look back on my post from an hour ago, I think ZvP is balanced winrate wise. However, its balanced by the extremes of a great Protoss lategame and a great Zerg mid game. But go on framing me as a balance whiner haha


The issue is that since the midgame comes first, Protoss isn't usually able to get to where they have the advantage.


EDIT: Lol my post never posted? Wtf

Anyway, zerg midgame isnt as dominant as protoss lategame. So Protoss CAN win in midgame.


The last 16 months of Starcraft disagree with you. And if you're going to say "PvZ was a problem before, but now Protoss is fine" we've heard that every patch and map pool change since then.


Oh shit did stats just win in the mid game?? Lol


Only takes the zerg going mutas against triple stargate. One map doesn't mean much--I can find you games where Zerg won lategame if you want too.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13022 Posts
November 15 2020 17:38 GMT
#1132
Stats putting up a better fight than I expected so far :o.
Winning for one of his last tournaments? The protoss victory everyone was waiting for?
WriterMaru
ytherik
Profile Joined July 2020
199 Posts
November 15 2020 17:38 GMT
#1133
lol Zerg so weak can't even beat Protoss midgame
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
November 15 2020 17:38 GMT
#1134
On November 16 2020 02:37 darklycid wrote:
Yeah not too sure if this muta vs 3sg was so good.

Agreed. It forced some phoenixes and killed about 10 probes. Not worth it imho. It also led to the corruptor phase, which was decent for a while, but it allowed Stats to build a quality ground army.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
November 15 2020 17:39 GMT
#1135
On November 16 2020 02:38 ytherik wrote:
lol Zerg so weak can't even beat Protoss midgame


It's late, Serral is tired, there was lag, he didn't really care about the match...

Oh I don't think I did that right.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
November 15 2020 17:39 GMT
#1136
Winning their own map picks so far. Do we know anything about servers for each map?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16102 Posts
November 15 2020 17:40 GMT
#1137
On November 16 2020 02:38 ytherik wrote:
lol Zerg so weak can't even beat Protoss midgame

Yeah this matchup is so broken that Protoss might even win a tournament.
David Kim where are you?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 15 2020 17:43 GMT
#1138
On November 16 2020 02:39 sneakyfox wrote:
Winning their own map picks so far. Do we know anything about servers for each map?


Preferred servers were opposite to the map picks I think? So it'd be Central for Stats' maps and West for Serral's.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
November 15 2020 17:45 GMT
#1139
On November 16 2020 02:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2020 02:39 sneakyfox wrote:
Winning their own map picks so far. Do we know anything about servers for each map?


Preferred servers were opposite to the map picks I think? So it'd be Central for Stats' maps and West for Serral's.


Okay thanks. I did hear that before but it's a bit difficult to follow all the adjustments to the rules.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-15 17:47:36
November 15 2020 17:46 GMT
#1140
Btw, Rotti + ZG (Rottigrub? Zombiedam?) best casting duo these days

Wardi and PiG also very good imo, and Tastosis are Tastosis of course
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
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