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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3171 Posts
October 21 2020 09:18 GMT
#121
TY don't get to fancy with your BC's. Don't want to bleed them.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7196 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-21 09:19:28
October 21 2020 09:19 GMT
#122
On October 21 2020 18:17 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2020 18:14 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
The BC teleport is, always was, and as long as it's in the game, always will be a terrible piece of game design.


Battlecruisers were literally not used outside of ultra late game TvT until they got Tactical Jump and moving shot. That's what it took to actually make them viable.

The alternative to those abilities is just returning to the days where the Battlecruiser was a joke unit.

Those are just the facts. Before it got those buffs, it wasn't a valid unit. After those buffs it's still niche but actually a valid unit. If you want those buffs reverted you're just admitting that you think it shouldn't be a useful unit for Terran, and that logic to me disqualifies you from talking about game design.

I would be happy if BC was a joke unit if this is the alternative.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
October 21 2020 09:19 GMT
#123
i dont know kev if stats could hold the death push unless he makes 20 chad rays right now
Supah
Profile Joined August 2010
708 Posts
October 21 2020 09:20 GMT
#124
Are Tempests not useful against BCs?
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
October 21 2020 09:20 GMT
#125
On October 21 2020 18:17 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2020 18:14 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
The BC teleport is, always was, and as long as it's in the game, always will be a terrible piece of game design.


Battlecruisers were literally not used outside of ultra late game TvT until they got Tactical Jump and moving shot. That's what it took to actually make them viable.

The alternative to those abilities is just returning to the days where the Battlecruiser was a joke unit.

Those are just the facts. Before it got those buffs, it wasn't a valid unit. After those buffs it's still niche but actually a valid unit. If you want those buffs reverted you're just admitting that you think it shouldn't be a useful unit for Terran, and that logic to me disqualifies you from talking about game design.


This is an atrociously bad strawman take. But I really would rather BCs not be in the meta at all, than be in it by virtue of blinking into main bases before Zerg can finish a spire.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3171 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-21 09:21:22
October 21 2020 09:21 GMT
#126
I think stats can win. He still has a lot of bases.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
October 21 2020 09:21 GMT
#127
So who was saying earlier that defending multiple locations was difficult for Protoss? This is what it looks like when you play Mech, can't defend multiple locations at all. It all depends on your unit comp.

Heavy Robotics play is basically the Protoss equivalent of Terran Mech.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
October 21 2020 09:21 GMT
#128
On October 21 2020 18:20 Supah wrote:
Are Tempests not useful against BCs?

its shiet against BC
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
October 21 2020 09:22 GMT
#129
STATS! THAT'S A RAMP WITH A TANK LINE ON IT! DO NOT GO UP THAT!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
October 21 2020 09:22 GMT
#130
On October 21 2020 18:17 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2020 18:14 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
The BC teleport is, always was, and as long as it's in the game, always will be a terrible piece of game design.


Battlecruisers were literally not used outside of ultra late game TvT until they got Tactical Jump and moving shot. That's what it took to actually make them viable.

The alternative to those abilities is just returning to the days where the Battlecruiser was a joke unit.

Those are just the facts. Before it got those buffs, it wasn't a valid unit. After those buffs it's still niche but actually a valid unit. If you want those buffs reverted you're just admitting that you think it shouldn't be a useful unit for Terran, and that logic to me disqualifies you from talking about game design.

It's still a bad design choice though. WIth a good end, so what? Still it's a bad thing, same with BL/SH. They're hated not because they're directly OP but because they're bad design
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2467 Posts
October 21 2020 09:23 GMT
#131
really sad game for Stats retirement.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
October 21 2020 09:23 GMT
#132
Correct me if I'm wrong did TY win every single game with basetrade?
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
October 21 2020 09:23 GMT
#133
zealot boombs!
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
October 21 2020 09:24 GMT
#134
lol, stats is very lost in this game.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
October 21 2020 09:24 GMT
#135
On October 21 2020 18:22 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2020 18:17 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 21 2020 18:14 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
The BC teleport is, always was, and as long as it's in the game, always will be a terrible piece of game design.


Battlecruisers were literally not used outside of ultra late game TvT until they got Tactical Jump and moving shot. That's what it took to actually make them viable.

The alternative to those abilities is just returning to the days where the Battlecruiser was a joke unit.

Those are just the facts. Before it got those buffs, it wasn't a valid unit. After those buffs it's still niche but actually a valid unit. If you want those buffs reverted you're just admitting that you think it shouldn't be a useful unit for Terran, and that logic to me disqualifies you from talking about game design.

It's still a bad design choice though. WIth a good end, so what? Still it's a bad thing, same with BL/SH. They're hated not because they're directly OP but because they're bad design


Well you just answered with the easiest counter point ever.

If Zerg and Protoss have all of these band aid answers to making their race work in Starcraft 2, why can't Terran?

If you want to start making arguments based on "well I think that's bad design" two things, first that's a subjective argument and second, that's a rabbit hole that doesn't have an end.

So what difference does it make?
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
October 21 2020 09:25 GMT
#136
On October 21 2020 18:24 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2020 18:22 deacon.frost wrote:
On October 21 2020 18:17 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 21 2020 18:14 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
The BC teleport is, always was, and as long as it's in the game, always will be a terrible piece of game design.


Battlecruisers were literally not used outside of ultra late game TvT until they got Tactical Jump and moving shot. That's what it took to actually make them viable.

The alternative to those abilities is just returning to the days where the Battlecruiser was a joke unit.

Those are just the facts. Before it got those buffs, it wasn't a valid unit. After those buffs it's still niche but actually a valid unit. If you want those buffs reverted you're just admitting that you think it shouldn't be a useful unit for Terran, and that logic to me disqualifies you from talking about game design.

It's still a bad design choice though. WIth a good end, so what? Still it's a bad thing, same with BL/SH. They're hated not because they're directly OP but because they're bad design


Well you just answered with the easiest counter point ever.

If Zerg and Protoss have all of these band aid answers to making their race work in Starcraft 2, why can't Terran?

If you want to start making arguments based on "well I think that's bad design" two things, first that's a subjective argument and second, that's a rabbit hole that doesn't have an end.

So what difference does it make?

DUDE. Do you read my posts? I'm all for removing ALL OF THE BAD CHOICES. It was like 2 posts over yours original... wtf? C'mon, I am advocating for a queen change for years now.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33707 Posts
October 21 2020 09:26 GMT
#137
Damn, GSL TY really is different
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
October 21 2020 09:26 GMT
#138
Ugh.
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
October 21 2020 09:27 GMT
#139
Well that was awful
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
WTCO
Profile Joined September 2013
United States646 Posts
October 21 2020 09:27 GMT
#140
RIP the protoss dream.
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