EPT[DH Masters 2020 Fall] Season Finals - Page 72
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Tyrhanius
France947 Posts
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Ramiz1989
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HugoBallzak
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:40 HugoBallzak wrote: clem better player but loses peace Clem is a good player, but if he is better is a bold claim,what you have to back it up? | ||
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Weavel
Finland9224 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:41 Weavel wrote: Kinda cheering for Trap in the finals. Too many zerg winners lately. Cheering for Trap just to see whiners choke up at this point. | ||
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
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HolydaKing
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Elentos
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On September 21 2020 01:41 lolfail9001 wrote: Clem is a good player, but if he is better is a bold claim,what you have to back it up? Liquid bias tbh | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:39 Zzzapper wrote: It's actually wild that zerg can go to 110 drones and not die instantly btw are mines really good against this style? Way back when people initially started using ling/bane/hydra against terran it was specifically to counter mine heavy bio Lurkers + Defiler... uh I mean Vipers, do that. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:35 Swisslink wrote: What's that argument? It's the same for every race: losing half your economy early on matters a lot. A Zerg can't lose half his economy to any kind of runby neither. Losing a bunch of units later on while sitting on 70-90 workers with all the production facitilies up doesn't matter that much though. Which makes sense, btw. My argument is that queens are a design / balance nightmare - it's a unit that shuts down most early aggression, so that it's a lot easier for a zerg player to reach the late game 70-90 worker eco. Normally, making extra units early on (such as lings), incurs an opportunity cost (e.g., lost eco). With queens, making more just allows for better creep spread, and allows them to bank up energy for transfuse later. It's a no regret move, which I think from a design perspective isn't great. | ||
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t5Fab
183 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:40 Ramiz1989 wrote: I don't understand Feardragon, he keeps bringing Clem down with his commentary, how he is not yet on the Reynor and Serral's level etc... what the heck? Yeah, really not nice, considering he has just beaten serral yesterday, and reynor last week :/ | ||
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Topin
Peru10131 Posts
 but damn Reynor was amazing too wp! | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:40 HugoBallzak wrote: clem better player but loses peace Hard to justify that after a loss haha. I do think hes incredibly good, and just very slightly the worse player This makes the finals a fun rematch though | ||
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Lexender
Mexico2665 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:40 Ramiz1989 wrote: I don't understand Feardragon, he keeps bringing Clem down with his commentary, how he is not yet on the Reynor and Serral's level etc... what the heck? If he doesn't its admiting that Clem lost due to his race and I'm guessing he wants to keep his job. I understand, they have to keep saying that else they would have to say it was due to other reasons. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:41 Bagration wrote: My argument is that queens are a design / balance nightmare - it's a unit that shuts down most early aggression, so that it's a lot easier for a zerg player to reach the late game 70-90 worker eco. Yeah, Serral should have just made queens yesterday lol. | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2467 Posts
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Swisslink
2958 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:41 Bagration wrote: My argument is that queens are a design / balance nightmare - it's a unit that shuts down most early aggression, so that it's a lot easier for a zerg player to reach the late game 70-90 worker eco. Na, your argument was that it's weird that Clem can't lose half his workers to a runby while sitting on 2 bases and Reynor can't lose 10+ banelings to a widow mine while sitting on 6 bases. Don't twist it around now. | ||
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Elentos
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On September 21 2020 01:41 lolfail9001 wrote: Cheering for Trap just to see whiners choke up at this point. Cheering for Trap so Protoss can get a decent win on the board for the first time since ASUS Rog  | ||
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