EPT[DH Masters 2020 Fall] Season Finals - Page 69
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Luolis
Finland7202 Posts
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Javah
France739 Posts
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Lexender
Mexico2665 Posts
He was dead since he decided to pull back and not capitalize on the hellbat push. | ||
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Swisslink
2958 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:21 Lexender wrote: He was dead since he decided to pull back and not capitalize on the hellbat push. + he missed all the timings with an upgrade advantage, if I'm not mistaken. | ||
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Zzzapper
1798 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:20 Luolis wrote: Clem was dead when Reynor established a 5-base eco. Clem had a 2-2 timing a bit later that looked like it could've made for a scary push. I think that was his last chance. | ||
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Penev
28536 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:21 Lexender wrote: He was dead since he decided to pull back and not capitalize on the hellbat push. Yeah. Clem played uncharacteristically passive this game. | ||
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Topin
Peru10131 Posts
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jojamon
133 Posts
P and Z both have much faster tech switches to keep opponent on their toes. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
Zerg: Lol, 7 queens Now, I'm not saying that Reynor isn't a good player (he's one of the best Zergs in the world) - but why the hell does a Zerg get to shut down a committed, unscouted attack like that with mineral-only tier 1 units? There's no downside to queens - make too many? Oh well, now I get extra creep spread | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:11 Vindicare605 wrote: The old wisdom used to say that 70 Drones was optimal. This 90-100 drones stuff is new, very new. 80-85 drones was quite standart back then, 90-100 wasn't a thing. | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:23 Bagration wrote: Unscouted 2 factory, blue flame hellbat push Zerg: Lol, 7 queens Now, I'm not saying that Reynor isn't a good player (he's one of the best Zergs in the world) - but why the hell does a Zerg get to shut down a committed, unscouted attack like that with mineral-only tier 1 units? There's no downside to queens - make too many? Oh well, now I get extra creep spread Queens need to cost gas and have less health | ||
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Lexender
Mexico2665 Posts
He just is incapable of saying one player played bad and that's why he lost, its always "the build was good to be this player is such a god that he came back from a position etc etc". I don't think theres anything wrong with that and its only my opinion but it feels disengenuos sometimes. | ||
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Swisslink
2958 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:23 Bagration wrote: Unscouted 2 factory, blue flame hellbat push Zerg: Lol, 7 queens Now, I'm not saying that Reynor isn't a good player (he's one of the best Zergs in the world) - but why the hell does a Zerg get to shut down a committed, unscouted attack like that with mineral-only tier 1 units? There's no downside to queens - make too many? Oh well, now I get extra creep spread Queens alone didn't defend the push. He had Banelings there as well, which cost Gas. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16129 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:24 AzAlexZ wrote: Queens need to cost gas and have less health Not happening. Every race in Starcraft has 2 mineral only units. For Zerg that's the Queen and the Zergling. Suggest whatever you want about Queens, but they will never ever cost gas, I can promise you that. | ||
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:21 Javah wrote: That's the part of the game which looks unwinnable for T against top Z, massive bank allows for infinity "cheap" cracklings/banes runbys while T can't really retaliate on creep. very nice game regardless from both. This works as long as you hit your injects perfectly. Otherwise you'll be running out of larva pretty soon. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:23 Bagration wrote: Unscouted 2 factory, blue flame hellbat push Zerg: Lol, 7 queens Now, I'm not saying that Reynor isn't a good player (he's one of the best Zergs in the world) - but why the hell does a Zerg get to shut down a committed, unscouted attack like that with mineral-only tier 1 units? There's no downside to queens - make too many? Oh well, now I get extra creep spread 7 queens only bought time for banes, they did not defend it on their own (or why do you think Reynor had to give up 3rd?). | ||
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Luolis
Finland7202 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:26 JoeCool wrote: This works as long as you hit your injects perfectly. Otherwise you'll be running out of larva pretty soon. You can queue injects... | ||
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:23 Bagration wrote: Unscouted 2 factory, blue flame hellbat push Zerg: Lol, 7 queens Now, I'm not saying that Reynor isn't a good player (he's one of the best Zergs in the world) - but why the hell does a Zerg get to shut down a committed, unscouted attack like that with mineral-only tier 1 units? There's no downside to queens - make too many? Oh well, now I get extra creep spread What else is zerg supposed to build? There are no other viable options. Reynor did a very good job in repositioning his queens and sniping some medivacs. If zerg doesn't go for the mass queen approach, they normally sacrifice eco, which is worse than playing on knife's edge. Queens are needed to buy time before the banes arrive. | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:25 Vindicare605 wrote: Not happening. Every race in Starcraft has 2 mineral only units. For Zerg that's the Queen and the Zergling. Suggest whatever you want about Queens, but they will never ever cost gas, I can promise you that. with how much they are managing to accomplish for the zerg nowadays, they should cost gas, even if it's 25. or less health honestly one of the two | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Queue only kicks in when you fail your injects for half an hour. Or 10 minutes, but fail them very hard. | ||
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