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Pandemona *
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Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
July 24 2020 17:42 GMT
#1

GSL Code S


Saturday, Jul 25 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2020/Season 2

Streams & Casters


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Artosis - Tasteless

Format

  • Group Stage #2 (Round of 16): Dual Tournament Format.

  • 12 players from Group Stage 1 and 4 seeded players.
  • Group Nominations.
  • All matches are Bo3.

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Group D


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(T)Cure vs (P)Stats
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(P)Zest vs (Z)Rogue

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Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
July 24 2020 17:42 GMT
#2
Poll: Who Advances?

Cure & Stats (9)
 
26%

Rogue & Cure (8)
 
23%

Stats & Rogue (7)
 
20%

Stats & Zest (5)
 
14%

Zest & Rogue (4)
 
11%

Cure & Zest (2)
 
6%

35 total votes

Your vote: Who Advances?

(Vote): Cure & Stats
(Vote): Zest & Rogue
(Vote): Stats & Zest
(Vote): Rogue & Cure
(Vote): Stats & Rogue
(Vote): Cure & Zest



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TheSpam
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada54 Posts
July 25 2020 02:09 GMT
#3
Awesome, I hope we see some excellent SC2!
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1770 Posts
July 25 2020 03:10 GMT
#4
Hell of a group
StaNi
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine54 Posts
July 25 2020 03:15 GMT
#5
Stats looks back to form. Cure maybe the best terran right now. Rogue can focus on GSL, because no big tournaments in the future and Zest, who in good day can be №1 and in bad day number last
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2627 Posts
July 25 2020 04:14 GMT
#6
Remember when people said the overcharge buff was useless?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 04:16:38
July 25 2020 04:14 GMT
#7
Battery overcharge honestly seems to have the most impact in PvT.

Though it is good to see Stats deflecting pressure just like the old days. Hope he makes it out today.
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ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1770 Posts
July 25 2020 04:16 GMT
#8
Lol artosis with some scathing critique there
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 04:17 GMT
#9
On July 25 2020 13:14 pvsnp wrote:
Battery overcharge honestly seems to have the most impact in PvT.

Though it is good to see Stats deflecting pressure just like the old days. Hope he makes it out today.


It's changed PvP a lot more (and for the better).
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 04:19:05
July 25 2020 04:18 GMT
#10
Cure played like someone who didn't study for the final exam, and the result was catastrophic.
god awful game, nice preparation Cure, you prepared a freaking one base strategy against one of, if not, the most defensive players in the game.
It's like throwing this against Serral, it's gonna do fuk all lol
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2627 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 04:20:07
July 25 2020 04:19 GMT
#11
hellions haven't been good since protoss learned to use batteries, tank pushes is where the money is at.

On July 25 2020 13:18 AzAlexZ wrote:
Cure played like someone who didn't study for the final exam, and the result was catastrophic.
god awful game, nice preparation Cure, you prepared a freaking one base strategy against one of, if not, the most defensive players in the game.
It's like throwing this against Serral, it's gonna do fuk all lol



TBH no terran wants to play macro vs protoss.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2020-07-25 04:20:59
July 25 2020 04:20 GMT
#12
On July 25 2020 13:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 13:14 pvsnp wrote:
Battery overcharge honestly seems to have the most impact in PvT.

Though it is good to see Stats deflecting pressure just like the old days. Hope he makes it out today.


It's changed PvP a lot more (and for the better).


I dunno, I've seen some pretty wonky PvPs after the battery overcharge. It still seems like a crazy matchup.
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BabyMozart
Profile Joined January 2013
54 Posts
July 25 2020 04:20 GMT
#13
hahahaha Artosis being the epitome of stubborn.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2627 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 04:22:47
July 25 2020 04:22 GMT
#14
Fun fact, Aligulac has TvP as a worst MU than PvZ. Its aligulac so obviously huge grain of salt.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 04:25 GMT
#15
On July 25 2020 13:20 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 13:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 25 2020 13:14 pvsnp wrote:
Battery overcharge honestly seems to have the most impact in PvT.

Though it is good to see Stats deflecting pressure just like the old days. Hope he makes it out today.


It's changed PvP a lot more (and for the better).


I dunno, I've seen some pretty wonky PvPs after the battery overcharge. It still seems like a crazy matchup.


Sure games can still be wonky, but just look at how it's influenced openings. It's gone from a match-up where people opened 2-gate 95% of the time to one where, gate expands and nexus first are actually viable. And we've seen more lategame PvPs since the patch than there were in the previous year.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 25 2020 04:28 GMT
#16
On July 25 2020 13:22 Lexender wrote:
Fun fact, Aligulac has TvP as a worst MU than PvZ. Its aligulac so obviously huge grain of salt.


Really? I'm a bit surprised to hear that.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 04:29 GMT
#17
Losing those 5 vikings to the disruptor was really big.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
July 25 2020 04:30 GMT
#18
lol that critter stuck in the middle of Cure's army
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 04:33 GMT
#19
On July 25 2020 13:28 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 13:22 Lexender wrote:
Fun fact, Aligulac has TvP as a worst MU than PvZ. Its aligulac so obviously huge grain of salt.


Really? I'm a bit surprised to hear that.


The winrate is worse, which does not per se mean the match-up's balance is worse.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2627 Posts
July 25 2020 04:38 GMT
#20
On July 25 2020 13:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 13:28 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 13:22 Lexender wrote:
Fun fact, Aligulac has TvP as a worst MU than PvZ. Its aligulac so obviously huge grain of salt.


Really? I'm a bit surprised to hear that.


The winrate is worse, which does not per se mean the match-up's balance is worse.


I mean people do complain about adept all ins for PvZ like TvP isn't all about 1 base play and 2 base SCV pulls.
mikedupp
Profile Joined May 2020
233 Posts
July 25 2020 04:39 GMT
#21
What an awful 20 minute game
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 25 2020 04:40 GMT
#22
On July 25 2020 13:39 mikedupp wrote:
What an awful 20 minute game


it was a great game.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 04:40:45
July 25 2020 04:40 GMT
#23
On July 25 2020 13:38 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 13:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 25 2020 13:28 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 13:22 Lexender wrote:
Fun fact, Aligulac has TvP as a worst MU than PvZ. Its aligulac so obviously huge grain of salt.


Really? I'm a bit surprised to hear that.


The winrate is worse, which does not per se mean the match-up's balance is worse.


I mean people do complain about adept all ins for PvZ like TvP isn't all about 1 base play and 2 base SCV pulls.


Counterpoint: The game we just watched was good but not great, and that still makes it more watchable than 99% of PvZs.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4404 Posts
July 25 2020 04:40 GMT
#24
Stats won but what the hell was that lol. He was so indecisive and took forever to try to kill him when he was 60 supply up. Then almost threw the game and let the supply equalize.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 04:41:45
July 25 2020 04:41 GMT
#25
I don't know why Terrans stopped making Liberators in TvP, but I don't like it. Relying on pure micro against Disruptors never seems to work out.
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mikedupp
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July 25 2020 04:41 GMT
#26
On July 25 2020 13:40 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 13:39 mikedupp wrote:
What an awful 20 minute game


it was a great game.

Stats had no idea he had the game won for 10 minutes my dude.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 25 2020 04:50 GMT
#27
On July 25 2020 13:41 mikedupp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 13:40 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 13:39 mikedupp wrote:
What an awful 20 minute game


it was a great game.

Stats had no idea he had the game won for 10 minutes my dude.


Stats plays it safe. He's not your typical cowboy protoss which is why he and trap are the most consistent protoss players of the last 1-2 years

You can never be too safe against an elite terran player
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2627 Posts
July 25 2020 04:50 GMT
#28
I just realized, do GSL champs still get those pins they put in their shirts? I remember when you could tell who Mvp was solely due to his 4 pins. (Also I remember Maru using them sometimes).
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 04:52 GMT
#29
Tasteless makes it sound like people couldn't deal with the adept in early LotV solely due to the novelty factor, and is glossing over the fact that early LotV adepts were incredibly broken and have been nerfed like four times since then.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 25 2020 04:53 GMT
#30
On July 25 2020 13:50 Lexender wrote:
I just realized, do GSL champs still get those pins they put in their shirts? I remember when you could tell who Mvp was solely due to his 4 pins. (Also I remember Maru using them sometimes).


Pretty sure they do, I've seen pictures of Maru with them. They just don't wear them all the time.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 25 2020 04:54 GMT
#31
Adept printer go brrr
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 25 2020 04:54 GMT
#32
Adepts are lame
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 04:55 GMT
#33
Quick hydras was a bit of a strange build. I wonder what that's good against.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2627 Posts
July 25 2020 04:55 GMT
#34
On July 25 2020 13:53 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 13:50 Lexender wrote:
I just realized, do GSL champs still get those pins they put in their shirts? I remember when you could tell who Mvp was solely due to his 4 pins. (Also I remember Maru using them sometimes).


Pretty sure they do, I've seen pictures of Maru with them. They just don't wear them all the time.


Yeah, Rogue is clearly using one but I was weirded out because I don't remember them being so big (?
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12164 Posts
July 25 2020 04:56 GMT
#35
Protoss is winning, I'll take it. But Cure shouldn't play agressive builds vs Stats and Rogue should have prepared builds that are better against adepts for Zest.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 25 2020 05:03 GMT
#36
Mediocre day so far not gonna lie
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 25 2020 05:03 GMT
#37
I hope Rogue takes this so we can see if Stats is brave enough to play lategame PvZ.
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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
July 25 2020 05:04 GMT
#38
​LIES YOUR EDGE GAMINGU JESTU
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 25 2020 05:05 GMT
#39
I don't understand what's going on.
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Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
July 25 2020 05:06 GMT
#40
On July 25 2020 14:05 pvsnp wrote:
I don't understand what's going on.

PVZZZZZZ!!!
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
July 25 2020 05:07 GMT
#41
Clearly this game is Bly's fault.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
July 25 2020 05:08 GMT
#42
what the fuck is this game lol
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 25 2020 05:08 GMT
#43
Zest and cannon rushes man.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
July 25 2020 05:08 GMT
#44
I don't get it, do Zest's probes get +2 armor or what?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 05:09:48
July 25 2020 05:09 GMT
#45
Rogue must be really good at poker. Motherfucker didn't even twitch the whole time.
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Lothcomic
Profile Joined May 2020
21 Posts
July 25 2020 05:09 GMT
#46
Sorry, I tabbed out for a minute to talk to a friend, how the what?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 05:09 GMT
#47
That was... not good at all from Zest. How do you just let all the lings in.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 25 2020 05:09 GMT
#48
Impressive throw by Zest
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BabyMozart
Profile Joined January 2013
54 Posts
July 25 2020 05:09 GMT
#49
wtf was that????
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
July 25 2020 05:09 GMT
#50
That was a weird game. I like how Rogue kept calm and just kept mining.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
July 25 2020 05:10 GMT
#51
No idea how Zest lost that. He needed one cannon behind that wall and that's that.
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
July 25 2020 05:10 GMT
#52
now that was a game lol
ProtossTears
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July 25 2020 05:10 GMT
#53
I am so confused
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Estraizher
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289 Posts
July 25 2020 05:10 GMT
#54
Zest and his cannon rushes
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12164 Posts
July 25 2020 05:10 GMT
#55
I mean if Rogue is doing this it's good, I'm not sure why Tastosis think you can just kill the hatch and be fine, if it's that easy it won't cut it vs sOs lol
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 05:11 GMT
#56
weirdest game I have ever seen

also as usual, LUL Zest
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 25 2020 05:11 GMT
#57
On July 25 2020 14:09 pvsnp wrote:
Rogue must be really good at poker. Motherfucker didn't even twitch the whole time.


dude scrims with sos and maru for years

this is probably nothing lmao
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Austria24417 Posts
July 25 2020 05:11 GMT
#58
On July 25 2020 14:10 Nebuchad wrote:
I mean if Rogue is doing this it's good, I'm not sure why Tastosis think you can just kill the hatch and be fine, if it's that easy it won't cut it vs sOs lol


But it wasn't good. Zest was super far ahead, all he had to do was not die to the easy to stop thing he knew Rogue was doing.
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July 25 2020 05:14 GMT
#59
On July 25 2020 14:11 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 14:10 Nebuchad wrote:
I mean if Rogue is doing this it's good, I'm not sure why Tastosis think you can just kill the hatch and be fine, if it's that easy it won't cut it vs sOs lol


But it wasn't good. Zest was super far ahead, all he had to do was not die to the easy to stop thing he knew Rogue was doing.

Yeah this game was completely over amd then Zest didn't bring his probe down to rewall fast enough.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
July 25 2020 05:14 GMT
#60
Zest just underestimated how much money rogue was going to put in his proxy hatch
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blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
July 25 2020 05:15 GMT
#61
On July 25 2020 14:11 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 14:10 Nebuchad wrote:
I mean if Rogue is doing this it's good, I'm not sure why Tastosis think you can just kill the hatch and be fine, if it's that easy it won't cut it vs sOs lol


But it wasn't good. Zest was super far ahead, all he had to do was not die to the easy to stop thing he knew Rogue was doing.


Exactly. Rogue had no gas to do the actual scary things, Zest had everything he needed to come out super far ahead there, but he just panicked/was confused at wtf Rogue was doing.
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Spain4906 Posts
July 25 2020 05:17 GMT
#62
On July 25 2020 14:15 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 14:11 Olli wrote:
On July 25 2020 14:10 Nebuchad wrote:
I mean if Rogue is doing this it's good, I'm not sure why Tastosis think you can just kill the hatch and be fine, if it's that easy it won't cut it vs sOs lol


But it wasn't good. Zest was super far ahead, all he had to do was not die to the easy to stop thing he knew Rogue was doing.


Exactly. Rogue had no gas to do the actual scary things, Zest had everything he needed to come out super far ahead there, but he just panicked/was confused at wtf Rogue was doing.

I think the key is confusion, zest brought two probes and semi walled at rogue nat with the gate so he could fight the drones in a better position, the fact that didn't happen mess up with zest
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47656 Posts
July 25 2020 05:18 GMT
#63
On July 25 2020 14:17 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 14:15 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On July 25 2020 14:11 Olli wrote:
On July 25 2020 14:10 Nebuchad wrote:
I mean if Rogue is doing this it's good, I'm not sure why Tastosis think you can just kill the hatch and be fine, if it's that easy it won't cut it vs sOs lol


But it wasn't good. Zest was super far ahead, all he had to do was not die to the easy to stop thing he knew Rogue was doing.


Exactly. Rogue had no gas to do the actual scary things, Zest had everything he needed to come out super far ahead there, but he just panicked/was confused at wtf Rogue was doing.

I think the key is confusion, zest brought two probes and semi walled at rogue nat with the gate so he could fight the drones in a better position, the fact that didn't happen mess up with zest

But it didn't even matter, he had the game on lock up until the point his wall was a few seconds too late and the stargate got unpowered. It only came down to the late wall.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
July 25 2020 05:20 GMT
#64
On July 25 2020 14:18 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 14:17 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 14:15 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On July 25 2020 14:11 Olli wrote:
On July 25 2020 14:10 Nebuchad wrote:
I mean if Rogue is doing this it's good, I'm not sure why Tastosis think you can just kill the hatch and be fine, if it's that easy it won't cut it vs sOs lol


But it wasn't good. Zest was super far ahead, all he had to do was not die to the easy to stop thing he knew Rogue was doing.


Exactly. Rogue had no gas to do the actual scary things, Zest had everything he needed to come out super far ahead there, but he just panicked/was confused at wtf Rogue was doing.

I think the key is confusion, zest brought two probes and semi walled at rogue nat with the gate so he could fight the drones in a better position, the fact that didn't happen mess up with zest

But it didn't even matter, he had the game on lock up until the point his wall was a few seconds too late and the stargate got unpowered. It only came down to the late wall.

Hence, confusion make him slow to react.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 05:28:38
July 25 2020 05:24 GMT
#65
Please play some macro games Stats.

Edit: Yay, a stargate. And a second stargate too.
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
July 25 2020 05:27 GMT
#66
Whoever wins this match might be in a worse state than whoever gets 2nd in the group. 1st plays Trap, while 2nd plays Dream, who is a much weaker opponent IMO. However, given how stacked this group is it's probably best to not risk it.
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Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 05:32 GMT
#67
Honestly kinda surprised to see a Korean go double stargate phoenix. Of late it's been much more of a sorta common build in the non-Korean scene. Stats played it well though.
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Profile Joined January 2011
United States4404 Posts
July 25 2020 05:35 GMT
#68
Well that was really cool for a while and now Stats is dead. I can't believe blizz is silent on the state of PvZ.
pvsnp
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Last Edited: 2020-07-25 05:36:49
July 25 2020 05:35 GMT
#69
Those nydus worms were a great bluff to buy time for the hydra/bane transition. I wish Stats had just sat back, defended his fourth and gotten storm though. Felt like he was in a pretty decent position to go late.
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Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 05:35 GMT
#70
Ah, too bad, that was definitely winnable for Stats.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
July 25 2020 05:37 GMT
#71
On July 25 2020 14:35 JJH777 wrote:
Well that was really cool for a while and now Stats is dead. I can't believe blizz is silent on the state of PvZ.

Maybe he shouldn't have tried to fight mass Hydra without storm.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
July 25 2020 05:37 GMT
#72
On July 25 2020 14:35 pvsnp wrote:
Those nydus worms were a great bluff to buy time for the hydra/bane transition. I wish Stats had just sat back, defended his fourth and gotten storm though. Felt like he was in a pretty decent position to go late.


Or been much more aggressive and hit before the Hydra Bane transition.

He chose the in between option which was the worst one tbh.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2020-07-25 05:48:14
July 25 2020 05:45 GMT
#73
I'm amazed that both of these guys are still alive. Feels like a Wings game.
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Profile Joined July 2019
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July 25 2020 05:47 GMT
#74
Great moves by Stats. Game 3!
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Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
July 25 2020 05:47 GMT
#75
Stats the madman, he did it!
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 05:47:49
July 25 2020 05:47 GMT
#76
On July 25 2020 14:37 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 14:35 JJH777 wrote:
Well that was really cool for a while and now Stats is dead. I can't believe blizz is silent on the state of PvZ.

Maybe he shouldn't have tried to fight mass Hydra without storm.

Maybe he shouldn't have made a 3rd base
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 05:47 GMT
#77
what an amazing game
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Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12164 Posts
July 25 2020 05:47 GMT
#78
That was some good play wow
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yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
July 25 2020 05:47 GMT
#79
what a game
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
July 25 2020 05:47 GMT
#80
Crazy game and nice hold by Stats.
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Spain4906 Posts
July 25 2020 05:48 GMT
#81
Those were truly immortals, what a hold
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
July 25 2020 05:48 GMT
#82
These games have not been what I expected.

I am not complaining.
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shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
July 25 2020 05:48 GMT
#83
Stats GOD
one of the GOTY for sure
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 25 2020 05:49 GMT
#84
On July 25 2020 14:48 shadymmj wrote:
Stats GOD
one of the GOTY for sure

Crazy how it's only July and I have apparently already seen like 50 games of the year
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
July 25 2020 05:50 GMT
#85
On July 25 2020 14:49 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 14:48 shadymmj wrote:
Stats GOD
one of the GOTY for sure

Crazy how it's only July and I have apparently already seen like 50 games of the year


I don't know Artosis, but this is definitely one of the games of the year!
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2020-07-25 05:52:36
July 25 2020 05:51 GMT
#86
On July 25 2020 14:49 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 14:48 shadymmj wrote:
Stats GOD
one of the GOTY for sure

Crazy how it's only July and I have apparently already seen like 50 games of the year


200+ lings off a proxy hatch opener has gotta be up there though.

Edit: Dammit Stats why are you wimping out with glaives.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 05:54 GMT
#87
On July 25 2020 14:51 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 14:49 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 14:48 shadymmj wrote:
Stats GOD
one of the GOTY for sure

Crazy how it's only July and I have apparently already seen like 50 games of the year


200+ lings off a proxy hatch opener has gotta be up there though.

Edit: Dammit Stats why are you wimping out with glaives.

what else are you supposed to do in this matchup?
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
July 25 2020 05:54 GMT
#88
Early LotV Adepts were good, beta LotV Adepts were straight up broken. Blizzard's response to this was give Zealot charge 30 damage because they weren't being used enough.
pvsnp
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Last Edited: 2020-07-25 05:56:13
July 25 2020 05:56 GMT
#89
On July 25 2020 14:54 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 14:51 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 14:49 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 14:48 shadymmj wrote:
Stats GOD
one of the GOTY for sure

Crazy how it's only July and I have apparently already seen like 50 games of the year


200+ lings off a proxy hatch opener has gotta be up there though.

Edit: Dammit Stats why are you wimping out with glaives.

what else are you supposed to do in this matchup?


Stats managed to get into a decent spot with a 4th base in Game 1 off double stargate.
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July 25 2020 05:56 GMT
#90
On July 25 2020 14:54 Solar424 wrote:
Early LotV Adepts were good, beta LotV Adepts were straight up broken. Blizzard's response to this was give Zealot charge 30 damage because they weren't being used enough.

Early LotV adepts were also broken.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 05:57 GMT
#91
S T A T S B O Y S
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Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 05:57 GMT
#92
LETS GOOOOOO

BEST GSL EVER
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
July 25 2020 05:57 GMT
#93
3 tosses in the ro8... toss weak?
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Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine54 Posts
July 25 2020 05:57 GMT
#94
Like I said, Stats in form. Nice to see him advance to RO8!
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2627 Posts
July 25 2020 05:58 GMT
#95
There are now more protoss in the Ro8 than zergs if Rogue advances, who may not even advance yet (but I doubt it).
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 05:59:15
July 25 2020 05:58 GMT
#96
On July 25 2020 14:57 Argonauta wrote:
3 tosses in the ro8... toss weak?

weak argument, at least wait till semi finals
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2020-07-25 06:00:24
July 25 2020 05:58 GMT
#97
I was hoping Rogue would advance in first and Stats/Zest in second so the Ro8 would have a decent distribution. Now all the Protoss are on one side of the bracket.

Stats looks in very good form atm though and his PvP winrate is insane. Wouldn't be surprised to see him in the finals.
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July 25 2020 05:59 GMT
#98
Crazy to think that Stats was playing WCTL at like 3am this morning.
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July 25 2020 05:59 GMT
#99
On July 25 2020 14:57 Argonauta wrote:
3 tosses in the ro8... toss weak?

Let's wait until one of them actually wins something
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 06:00 GMT
#100
On July 25 2020 14:58 pvsnp wrote:
I was hoping Rogue would advance in first and Stats/Zest in second so the Ro8 would have a decent distribution. Now all the Protoss are on one side of the bracket.

it's better this way, now we can have DRG v Stats finals
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
July 25 2020 06:00 GMT
#101
On July 25 2020 14:56 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 14:54 Solar424 wrote:
Early LotV Adepts were good, beta LotV Adepts were straight up broken. Blizzard's response to this was give Zealot charge 30 damage because they weren't being used enough.

Early LotV adepts were also broken.


Early LoTV was broken in general. Tankivacs, 8 armor ultralisks, release level Liberators, release level Adepts, Byun's Reapers lol.

I tend to just ignore those years when I think about pro SC2 now. I wasn't watching a ton because I was working a ton at night and I really don't feel like I missed much.
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StaNi
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine54 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 06:01:28
July 25 2020 06:00 GMT
#102
On July 25 2020 14:59 yht9657 wrote:
Crazy to think that Stats was playing WCTL at like 3am this morning.

Some matches, mb even all late yesterday matches, casting from replays. I think ace match could be from replay too
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Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
July 25 2020 06:01 GMT
#103
On July 25 2020 14:59 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 14:57 Argonauta wrote:
3 tosses in the ro8... toss weak?

Let's wait until one of them actually wins something


that doesn't happen even with beta adepts
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July 25 2020 06:02 GMT
#104
On July 25 2020 15:00 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 14:58 pvsnp wrote:
I was hoping Rogue would advance in first and Stats/Zest in second so the Ro8 would have a decent distribution. Now all the Protoss are on one side of the bracket.

it's better this way, now we can have DRG v Stats finals


Stats has an insane winrate in PvP. so I could see him getting to the finals. Inno looks like the strong favorite on the other side of the bracket though.
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Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 06:04:47
July 25 2020 06:03 GMT
#105
Weirdly enough, I just watched 2014 GSL S3's Soo vs Zest matches several hours ago and hoped that Rogue would utilize this meta build, but then he got easily destroyed by the highly-defensed counters from Stats. Maybe Rogue should tech up to Ravagers, instead of a bunch of lings.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 06:05 GMT
#106
On July 25 2020 15:02 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 15:00 Cricketer12 wrote:
On July 25 2020 14:58 pvsnp wrote:
I was hoping Rogue would advance in first and Stats/Zest in second so the Ro8 would have a decent distribution. Now all the Protoss are on one side of the bracket.

it's better this way, now we can have DRG v Stats finals


Stats has an insane winrate in PvP. so I could see him getting to the finals. Inno looks like the strong favorite on the other side of the bracket though.

Stats should make it unless ty beats parting, i don't think i have ever seen ty lose to stats. INno should reach the finals...but i wouldn't be surprised to see him get upset in the semis
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
July 25 2020 06:07 GMT
#107
On July 25 2020 15:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 14:56 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 14:54 Solar424 wrote:
Early LotV Adepts were good, beta LotV Adepts were straight up broken. Blizzard's response to this was give Zealot charge 30 damage because they weren't being used enough.

Early LotV adepts were also broken.


Early LoTV was broken in general. Tankivacs, 8 armor ultralisks, release level Liberators, release level Adepts, Byun's Reapers lol.

I tend to just ignore those years when I think about pro SC2 now. I wasn't watching a ton because I was working a ton at night and I really don't feel like I missed much.



I still can't believe they even introduced Tankvacs. When I saw a clip of someone chasing a Zerg army around with tank vacs I almost died from laughter.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
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July 25 2020 06:08 GMT
#108
On July 25 2020 15:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 15:02 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:00 Cricketer12 wrote:
On July 25 2020 14:58 pvsnp wrote:
I was hoping Rogue would advance in first and Stats/Zest in second so the Ro8 would have a decent distribution. Now all the Protoss are on one side of the bracket.

it's better this way, now we can have DRG v Stats finals


Stats has an insane winrate in PvP. so I could see him getting to the finals. Inno looks like the strong favorite on the other side of the bracket though.

Stats should make it unless ty beats parting, i don't think i have ever seen ty lose to stats. INno should reach the finals...but i wouldn't be surprised to see him get upset in the semis

Not in the last 2 years at least.
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blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
July 25 2020 06:13 GMT
#109
Is this Wings of Liberty
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 06:14 GMT
#110
On July 25 2020 15:13 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Is this Wings of Liberty

no this is patrick
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
July 25 2020 06:16 GMT
#111
Did cure forgot concussive?
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Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2627 Posts
July 25 2020 06:20 GMT
#112
Zest not sniping a single medivac in all those engagements.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 06:24 GMT
#113
dude I predicted cure to drop in dead last but like...what is happening
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2020-07-25 06:25:32
July 25 2020 06:24 GMT
#114
Yeah, I haven't been very impressed by Cure ever since he lost to TY. Still hope Rogue makes it out though.
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Profile Joined December 2012
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July 25 2020 06:24 GMT
#115
On July 25 2020 15:20 Lexender wrote:
Zest not sniping a single medivac in all those engagements.


For the viewers to think Cure's army value is still quite high haha
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 06:28 GMT
#116
On July 25 2020 15:24 pvsnp wrote:
Yeah, I haven't been very impressed by Cure ever since he lost to TY. Still hope Rogue makes it out though.

cure did the anime thing were he went all out on the secondary antagonist, only to run out of fuel and crash and burn for half a season
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 25 2020 06:31 GMT
#117
"remember when tempests had 15 range"

>tempests now have 14 range
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Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2627 Posts
July 25 2020 06:33 GMT
#118
On topic, do people remember when they complained all day because the DT blink buff was gimmick that wasn't going to have any real impact in the game?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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July 25 2020 06:34 GMT
#119
On July 25 2020 15:33 Lexender wrote:
On topic, do people remember when they complained all day because the DT blink buff was gimmick that wasn't going to have any real impact in the game?


Yes.
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United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 06:34 GMT
#120
On July 25 2020 15:34 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 15:33 Lexender wrote:
On topic, do people remember when they complained all day because the DT blink buff was gimmick that wasn't going to have any real impact in the game?


Yes.

"Oh! *shadow strike!*"
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 25 2020 06:34 GMT
#121
neeb is a god for pioneering dt blink in the lategame vs terran
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Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2627 Posts
July 25 2020 06:36 GMT
#122
On July 25 2020 15:34 BerserkSword wrote:
neeb is a god for pioneering dt blink in the lategame vs terran


Aren't lategame blink dts used in every MU now? I'm pretty sure they are.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 06:36 GMT
#123
jesus fuck that was an emp
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 06:37 GMT
#124
This is where we need feardragon to tell us something along the line that hives can never be one shotted by mass dts since there isn't the surface area, but that all other buildings in the games can.
pvsnp
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Last Edited: 2020-07-25 06:40:04
July 25 2020 06:38 GMT
#125
Ok, Cure scanning the wrong place on the left side while his whole army died to DTs was hilarious.

Also, Season 2 Dream = Season 1 Cure.
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Spain4906 Posts
July 25 2020 06:39 GMT
#126
ROLF im ready to zest to win also vs rogue
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Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 06:39 GMT
#127
aww poor cure
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blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
July 25 2020 06:39 GMT
#128
On July 25 2020 15:38 pvsnp wrote:
Ok, Cure scanning the wrong place on the left side while his whole army died to DTs was hilarious.


Pretty sure that's the only reason he died there too lol
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Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
July 25 2020 06:40 GMT
#129
Ouch, poor Cure, 0-4'ed against Toss today.
Sounds detrimental but as soon as you noticed DT blink, stop relying on scans, get a goddamn Raven in there.
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2627 Posts
July 25 2020 06:40 GMT
#130
On July 25 2020 15:39 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 15:38 pvsnp wrote:
Ok, Cure scanning the wrong place on the left side while his whole army died to DTs was hilarious.


Pretty sure that's the only reason he died there too lol


The left side didn't had the dps to win, but if anything landing the vikings was a wrong move he should've got them with the rest of the army instead.
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Switzerland12164 Posts
July 25 2020 06:42 GMT
#131
All right Rogue time to get a nicely balanced Ro8
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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July 25 2020 06:43 GMT
#132
On July 25 2020 15:42 Nebuchad wrote:
All right Rogue time to get a nicely balanced Ro8


I believe in the 3/3/2.
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United States2123 Posts
July 25 2020 06:44 GMT
#133
On July 25 2020 15:36 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 15:34 BerserkSword wrote:
neeb is a god for pioneering dt blink in the lategame vs terran


Aren't lategame blink dts used in every MU now? I'm pretty sure they are.


neeb was doing it like at least a year ago
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Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
July 25 2020 06:45 GMT
#134
On July 25 2020 15:44 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 15:36 Lexender wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:34 BerserkSword wrote:
neeb is a god for pioneering dt blink in the lategame vs terran


Aren't lategame blink dts used in every MU now? I'm pretty sure they are.


neeb was doing it like at least a year ago


This new DT blink usage is completely different to what Neeb was doing.
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Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 06:49:54
July 25 2020 06:47 GMT
#135
It looks like today wasn't the day.

I'm glad that Stats didn't get hurt from his wctl appearance yesterday.
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July 25 2020 06:48 GMT
#136
On July 25 2020 15:47 DieuCure wrote:
It looks like today wasn't the day.


Dream seems to have taken his place this season.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 06:48 GMT
#137
that gsl 10 year video gave me death of proleague vibes
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Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
July 25 2020 06:49 GMT
#138
I just put a new toner in my printer. I'm ready Zest
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Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 06:51 GMT
#139
Is this yet another back expand proxy stargate? This is at least the fifth time it's been played in the last two weeks.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
July 25 2020 06:51 GMT
#140
is this trap vs reynor game1?
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Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 25 2020 06:53 GMT
#141
Nice, Protoss today making my penis quite stiff.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 06:54:53
July 25 2020 06:54 GMT
#142
Really awkward when you are trying to go SH/nydus and the other guy just adept all-ins you.

oh Zest can't actually enter Zerg base
hahahahahah
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 06:55:31
July 25 2020 06:54 GMT
#143
On July 25 2020 15:51 Argonauta wrote:
is this trap vs reynor game1?


Based on the follow up it's Showtime vs Serral instead.

On July 25 2020 15:54 Ej_ wrote:
Really awkward when you are trying to go SH/nydus and the other guy just adept all-ins you.


I mean he's walled off on 2 bases.
pvsnp
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Last Edited: 2020-07-25 06:55:33
July 25 2020 06:55 GMT
#144
Ok so I think this is actually genius from Rogue. Zest is dead.
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July 25 2020 06:55 GMT
#145
Ok this game was really smart by Rogue, not sure if he had realised Zest was doing an adept all-in without robo or got really damn lucky tho.
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
July 25 2020 06:56 GMT
#146
lol Artosis pylon.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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July 25 2020 06:56 GMT
#147
On July 25 2020 15:55 Ej_ wrote:
Ok this game was really smart by Rogue, not sure if he had realised Zest was doing an adept all-in without robo or got really damn lucky tho.


At a guess, he planned on going SH/nydus the whole time, just because Golden Wall.
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July 25 2020 06:56 GMT
#148
On July 25 2020 15:55 Ej_ wrote:
Ok this game was really smart by Rogue, not sure if he had realised Zest was doing an adept all-in without robo or got really damn lucky tho.


Yeah, doesn't he just die if Zest had followed it up like Trap did, with a prism and chargelots?
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United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 06:56 GMT
#149
gotta say...these were not the games i was expecting today
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 06:58:15
July 25 2020 06:58 GMT
#150
On July 25 2020 15:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
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On July 25 2020 15:55 Ej_ wrote:
Ok this game was really smart by Rogue, not sure if he had realised Zest was doing an adept all-in without robo or got really damn lucky tho.


Yeah, doesn't he just die if Zest had followed it up like Trap did, with a prism and chargelots?

Standard 7 gate gladept used to be the build that kept 2 base SH from being played every game originally so I'd say yes.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
July 25 2020 06:58 GMT
#151
It must be fun for Rogue.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 25 2020 06:58 GMT
#152
nice micro on that collossus
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HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
524 Posts
July 25 2020 06:59 GMT
#153
Two base power!!!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 06:59 GMT
#154
god this is so funny
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
July 25 2020 06:59 GMT
#155
Why is Zest still in this game?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 25 2020 06:59 GMT
#156
LOL that gate was still unpowered
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
July 25 2020 07:00 GMT
#157
On July 25 2020 15:55 Ej_ wrote:
Ok this game was really smart by Rogue, not sure if he had realised Zest was doing an adept all-in without robo or got really damn lucky tho.


I guess Trap practiced this build vs Rogue a lot?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
July 25 2020 07:00 GMT
#158
That game was a backfire for Zest. I want this to go to game 3 Zest please win game 2.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 25 2020 07:01 GMT
#159
Raise Your Ej Gaming
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 07:01 GMT
#160
rogue end this so i can go to sleep pls
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
July 25 2020 07:01 GMT
#161
On July 25 2020 15:45 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 15:44 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:36 Lexender wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:34 BerserkSword wrote:
neeb is a god for pioneering dt blink in the lategame vs terran


Aren't lategame blink dts used in every MU now? I'm pretty sure they are.


neeb was doing it like at least a year ago


This new DT blink usage is completely different to what Neeb was doing.


I wouldnt say completely different. It's just a different level of mechanics.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 25 2020 07:01 GMT
#162
On July 25 2020 16:01 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 15:45 Olli wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:44 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:36 Lexender wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:34 BerserkSword wrote:
neeb is a god for pioneering dt blink in the lategame vs terran


Aren't lategame blink dts used in every MU now? I'm pretty sure they are.


neeb was doing it like at least a year ago


This new DT blink usage is completely different to what Neeb was doing.


I wouldnt say completely different. It's just a different level of mechanics.

Ok, then lategame Shadow Stride was invented by Stats, in every matchup.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 07:04 GMT
#163
On July 25 2020 16:01 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:01 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:45 Olli wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:44 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:36 Lexender wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:34 BerserkSword wrote:
neeb is a god for pioneering dt blink in the lategame vs terran


Aren't lategame blink dts used in every MU now? I'm pretty sure they are.


neeb was doing it like at least a year ago


This new DT blink usage is completely different to what Neeb was doing.


I wouldnt say completely different. It's just a different level of mechanics.

Ok, then lategame Shadow Stride was invented by Stats, in every matchup.

tbf name a lategame protoss play that wasn't invented by rain or stats
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 25 2020 07:05 GMT
#164
On July 25 2020 16:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:01 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:01 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:45 Olli wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:44 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:36 Lexender wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:34 BerserkSword wrote:
neeb is a god for pioneering dt blink in the lategame vs terran


Aren't lategame blink dts used in every MU now? I'm pretty sure they are.


neeb was doing it like at least a year ago


This new DT blink usage is completely different to what Neeb was doing.


I wouldnt say completely different. It's just a different level of mechanics.

Ok, then lategame Shadow Stride was invented by Stats, in every matchup.

tbf name a lategame protoss play that wasn't invented by rain or stats

MC's carriers in PvZ
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 07:05 GMT
#165
On July 25 2020 16:05 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:01 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:01 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:45 Olli wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:44 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:36 Lexender wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:34 BerserkSword wrote:
neeb is a god for pioneering dt blink in the lategame vs terran


Aren't lategame blink dts used in every MU now? I'm pretty sure they are.


neeb was doing it like at least a year ago


This new DT blink usage is completely different to what Neeb was doing.


I wouldnt say completely different. It's just a different level of mechanics.

Ok, then lategame Shadow Stride was invented by Stats, in every matchup.

tbf name a lategame protoss play that wasn't invented by rain or stats

MC's carriers in PvZ

nah he stole that from HuK
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Avaek
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand49 Posts
July 25 2020 07:06 GMT
#166
does anyone remember artosis began today by saying cure was going to win this group lol
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 25 2020 07:06 GMT
#167
ninja double stargate


this is how we win PvZ, guys, we do a completely bullshit tech swap and then still hide it
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
July 25 2020 07:06 GMT
#168
Holy fuck that Prism was so close to dying.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 25 2020 07:06 GMT
#169
Zest laughs in the face of danger with his prisms.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 07:07 GMT
#170
It takes nerves of steel to go in with that prism.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 25 2020 07:07 GMT
#171
On July 25 2020 16:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
It takes nerves of steel to go in with that prism.

herO would've killed all those roaches by now :/
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 07:08:32
July 25 2020 07:08 GMT
#172
hahahaha Rogue is swapping to SHs


man this game would ahve been hilarious, had he not scouted it last moment
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 25 2020 07:09 GMT
#173
Rogue just wins.
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SetStndbySmn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States657 Posts
July 25 2020 07:09 GMT
#174
kill the overseers, you have a dark shrine....
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 25 2020 07:09 GMT
#175
Zest should be kicking himself about that game 3 earlier today.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
July 25 2020 07:09 GMT
#176
I have no idea in the slightest what Zest was thinking in this game. But Rogue smashed him, so now I don't even want to know.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 07:10 GMT
#177
LUL Zest
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 07:10:23
July 25 2020 07:10 GMT
#178
On July 25 2020 16:09 Vindicare605 wrote:
I have no idea in the slightest what Zest was thinking in this game. But Rogue smashed him, so now I don't even want to know.

?
if Rogue hadn't scouted the stargates right before starting SH production, he would've lost the game to mass phoenix
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 07:10:33
July 25 2020 07:10 GMT
#179
On July 25 2020 16:09 Vindicare605 wrote:
I have no idea in the slightest what Zest was thinking in this game. But Rogue smashed him, so now I don't even want to know.


He was thinking a ling wouldn't go to the upper left corner.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 07:10 GMT
#180
it almost feels like zest needs to go full bisu dt but he's not even doing that
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 07:11 GMT
#181
INno > Stats Finals
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SetStndbySmn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States657 Posts
July 25 2020 07:11 GMT
#182
Not sure why he wasn't overseer sniping with phoenixes during the roach/ravager/ling push. I thought that was the play he was going for to begin with.
"He doesn't operate under some divine shroud that lets him determine what is or is not valid culture. He cannot rob you, retroactively, of wholly valid experiences; he cannot transform them into worthless things." - Tycho
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2627 Posts
July 25 2020 07:12 GMT
#183
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Where gonna have a P>Z finals just to deny protoss any buffs.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 25 2020 07:12 GMT
#184
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3095 Posts
July 25 2020 07:13 GMT
#185
GG Rogue grats for advancing to the Ro.8. Was good that he sent a ling to the top of the map to scout those Stargates.
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StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
July 25 2020 07:13 GMT
#186
He sniped rogue's overseer with the army during that first push and then didn't make a single DT. Not sure it would have mattered but still
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
July 25 2020 07:15 GMT
#187
On July 25 2020 16:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:01 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:01 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:45 Olli wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:44 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:36 Lexender wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:34 BerserkSword wrote:
neeb is a god for pioneering dt blink in the lategame vs terran


Aren't lategame blink dts used in every MU now? I'm pretty sure they are.


neeb was doing it like at least a year ago


This new DT blink usage is completely different to what Neeb was doing.


I wouldnt say completely different. It's just a different level of mechanics.

Ok, then lategame Shadow Stride was invented by Stats, in every matchup.

tbf name a lategame protoss play that wasn't invented by rain or stats


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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
July 25 2020 07:15 GMT
#188
Rogue says zerg is not doing well. Will people will make as much of a fuzz than when he said Zerg was too good?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 07:19:57
July 25 2020 07:15 GMT
#189
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


INno hyped as always even though it's been three years he hasn't won a Korean tournament or been a runner up. He will probably lose to Dream/Rogue.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 07:16 GMT
#190
On July 25 2020 16:12 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Where gonna have a P>Z finals just to deny protoss any buffs.


Good joke. When's the last time a Protoss has won a bo7 against Zerg?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 25 2020 07:16 GMT
#191
On July 25 2020 16:15 Argonauta wrote:
Rogue says zerg is not doing well. Will people will make as much of a fuzz than when he said Zerg was too good?

No, because complaining about weakness of their own race is what pros do most of the time.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
July 25 2020 07:16 GMT
#192
On July 25 2020 16:15 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:01 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:01 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:45 Olli wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:44 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:36 Lexender wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:34 BerserkSword wrote:
neeb is a god for pioneering dt blink in the lategame vs terran


Aren't lategame blink dts used in every MU now? I'm pretty sure they are.


neeb was doing it like at least a year ago


This new DT blink usage is completely different to what Neeb was doing.


I wouldnt say completely different. It's just a different level of mechanics.

Ok, then lategame Shadow Stride was invented by Stats, in every matchup.

tbf name a lategame protoss play that wasn't invented by rain or stats


Double prism zealot spam brought to you by HerO

Usually followed by dying to BL Infestor

For when you wanna die and look fancy while doing it.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 07:17:14
July 25 2020 07:17 GMT
#193
On July 25 2020 16:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:12 Lexender wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Where gonna have a P>Z finals just to deny protoss any buffs.


Good joke. When's the last time a Protoss has won a bo7 against Zerg?

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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
July 25 2020 07:17 GMT
#194
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


Rogue never lost Bo7 series, right? Dream must try hard to prevent that scenario to happen.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 07:18:22
July 25 2020 07:17 GMT
#195
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.

That's my thinking...i will be very glad to see DRG throw a spanner in the works though.

Rogue v Dream is still tricky to predict, others seem pretty simple by comparison
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
July 25 2020 07:17 GMT
#196
On July 25 2020 16:16 StasisField wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:15 Olli wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:01 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:01 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:45 Olli wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:44 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:36 Lexender wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:34 BerserkSword wrote:
neeb is a god for pioneering dt blink in the lategame vs terran


Aren't lategame blink dts used in every MU now? I'm pretty sure they are.


neeb was doing it like at least a year ago


This new DT blink usage is completely different to what Neeb was doing.


I wouldnt say completely different. It's just a different level of mechanics.

Ok, then lategame Shadow Stride was invented by Stats, in every matchup.

tbf name a lategame protoss play that wasn't invented by rain or stats


Double prism zealot spam brought to you by HerO

Usually followed by dying to BL Infestor

For when you wanna die and look fancy while doing it.


To be fair that was as good as it got for Protoss
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StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
July 25 2020 07:17 GMT
#197
On July 25 2020 16:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:12 Lexender wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Where gonna have a P>Z finals just to deny protoss any buffs.


Good joke. When's the last time a Protoss has won a bo7 against Zerg?

I honestly can't recall the last PvZ finals where Serral wasn't the Zerg, and I can't remember if Serral won all of those or not.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 07:18 GMT
#198
On July 25 2020 16:15 Argonauta wrote:
Rogue says zerg is not doing well. Will people will make as much of a fuzz than when he said Zerg was too good?


Most of the Korean pros do seem to think that TvZ is very Terran favored. The results so far haven't really supported this theory.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
July 25 2020 07:18 GMT
#199
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12164 Posts
July 25 2020 07:19 GMT
#200
Six have a GSL title?

What did Parting win?
No will to live, no wish to die
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
July 25 2020 07:19 GMT
#201
On July 25 2020 16:17 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:16 StasisField wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:15 Olli wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:01 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:01 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:45 Olli wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:44 BerserkSword wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:36 Lexender wrote:
On July 25 2020 15:34 BerserkSword wrote:
neeb is a god for pioneering dt blink in the lategame vs terran


Aren't lategame blink dts used in every MU now? I'm pretty sure they are.


neeb was doing it like at least a year ago


This new DT blink usage is completely different to what Neeb was doing.


I wouldnt say completely different. It's just a different level of mechanics.

Ok, then lategame Shadow Stride was invented by Stats, in every matchup.

tbf name a lategame protoss play that wasn't invented by rain or stats


Double prism zealot spam brought to you by HerO

Usually followed by dying to BL Infestor

For when you wanna die and look fancy while doing it.


To be fair that was as good as it got for Protoss

Oh for sure. HerO was my favorite player until he retired for that reason. He made losing look good
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 07:19 GMT
#202
On July 25 2020 16:17 StasisField wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 Lexender wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Where gonna have a P>Z finals just to deny protoss any buffs.


Good joke. When's the last time a Protoss has won a bo7 against Zerg?

I honestly can't recall the last PvZ finals where Serral wasn't the Zerg, and I can't remember if Serral won all of those or not.

Serral won all the pvz finals, but he lost a couple semis/ro8s
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 07:20:26
July 25 2020 07:19 GMT
#203
On July 25 2020 16:17 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


Rogue never lost Bo7 series, right? Dream must try hard to prevent that scenario to happen.

Rogue is 7-0 in offline bo7s, but he does lose them offline (as everybody does). However, only one of those is vs Terran, and he has lost a few bo7 and bo9s online vs INnoVation rather recently.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
July 25 2020 07:20 GMT
#204
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.
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StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
July 25 2020 07:20 GMT
#205
On July 25 2020 16:19 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:17 StasisField wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 Lexender wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Where gonna have a P>Z finals just to deny protoss any buffs.


Good joke. When's the last time a Protoss has won a bo7 against Zerg?

I honestly can't recall the last PvZ finals where Serral wasn't the Zerg, and I can't remember if Serral won all of those or not.

Serral won all the pvz finals, but he lost a couple semis/ro8s

That's what I thought but I wasn't confident enough to claim it as fact.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
July 25 2020 07:21 GMT
#206
On July 25 2020 16:17 StasisField wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 Lexender wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Where gonna have a P>Z finals just to deny protoss any buffs.


Good joke. When's the last time a Protoss has won a bo7 against Zerg?

I honestly can't recall the last PvZ finals where Serral wasn't the Zerg, and I can't remember if Serral won all of those or not.



katowice 2020 Zest vs Rogue. Last year GSLs with Trap runner up vs Dark/rogue.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 07:22 GMT
#207
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno

I will honestly not be surprised to see it happen, but he still remains the odds on favorite
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mCon.Hephaistas
Profile Joined May 2014
Netherlands891 Posts
July 25 2020 07:22 GMT
#208
On July 25 2020 16:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:15 Argonauta wrote:
Rogue says zerg is not doing well. Will people will make as much of a fuzz than when he said Zerg was too good?


Most of the Korean pros do seem to think that TvZ is very Terran favored. The results so far haven't really supported this theory.


Well winrates in this GSL and the last GSL are both very Terran favored
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 07:23:12
July 25 2020 07:23 GMT
#209
-snip-
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
July 25 2020 07:23 GMT
#210
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 25 2020 07:24 GMT
#211
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Permaban bet?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 07:26:42
July 25 2020 07:25 GMT
#212
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Literally same day as beating dark 4-0 in gsl. Was probably tired/not taking it seriously

But by all means imply DRG is top 2 zerg in the world.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 07:30:31
July 25 2020 07:27 GMT
#213
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.


Is Reynor playing in GSL?

Best TvZ doesn't mean 100% winrate, it means better than all the other Terrans. Which he is.
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TL+ Member
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
July 25 2020 07:27 GMT
#214
On July 25 2020 16:24 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Permaban bet?


Let's go, 2013-2020.
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 07:28:51
July 25 2020 07:28 GMT
#215
On July 25 2020 16:27 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:24 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Permaban bet?


Let's go, 2013-2020.

Ok cool . Hopefuly you won't try to weasel out with another account.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
July 25 2020 07:28 GMT
#216
On July 25 2020 16:25 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Literally same day as beating dark 4-0 in gsl. Was probably tired/not taking it seriously

But by all means imply DRG is top 2 zerg in the world.



Reynor is overhyped and not the 2nd best Zerg in the world.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 07:29 GMT
#217
On July 25 2020 16:28 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:27 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:24 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Permaban bet?


Let's go, 2013-2020.

Ok cool . Hopefuly you won't try to weasel out with another account.

Ej found a way to make me cheer against DRG. Wack.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 07:29 GMT
#218
On July 25 2020 16:22 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:15 Argonauta wrote:
Rogue says zerg is not doing well. Will people will make as much of a fuzz than when he said Zerg was too good?


Most of the Korean pros do seem to think that TvZ is very Terran favored. The results so far haven't really supported this theory.


Well winrates in this GSL and the last GSL are both very Terran favored


Sure. But Cure, Maru, INno, TY also managed to lose all their series against Serral and Reynor at Dreamhack Summers, and despite all the excuses in the world that hardly sells the idea that ZvT is unwinnable.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
July 25 2020 07:31 GMT
#219
On July 25 2020 16:28 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:27 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:24 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Permaban bet?


Let's go, 2013-2020.

Ok cool . Hopefuly you won't try to weasel out with another account.


Funny that you really think INno can win Dream/Rogue and a top protoss/TY.
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 25 2020 07:32 GMT
#220
On July 25 2020 16:31 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:28 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:27 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:24 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Permaban bet?


Let's go, 2013-2020.

Ok cool . Hopefuly you won't try to weasel out with another account.


Funny that you really think INno can win Dream/Rogue and a top protoss/TY.

I don't care, I'm just willing to wager to get rid of you.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 07:33:18
July 25 2020 07:32 GMT
#221
On July 25 2020 16:28 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:27 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:24 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Permaban bet?


Let's go, 2013-2020.

Ok cool . Hopefuly you won't try to weasel out with another account.


O_O Are you betting about INno winning the tournament, or about if he can beat DRG or not?

edit: Oh the entire tournament.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 25 2020 07:33 GMT
#222
On July 25 2020 16:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:28 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:27 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:24 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Permaban bet?


Let's go, 2013-2020.

Ok cool . Hopefuly you won't try to weasel out with another account.


O_O Are you betting about INno winning the tournament, or about if he can beat DRG or not?

GSL I assume? Altho I will take beating DRG too
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 07:34 GMT
#223
On July 25 2020 16:33 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:28 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:27 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:24 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Permaban bet?


Let's go, 2013-2020.

Ok cool . Hopefuly you won't try to weasel out with another account.


O_O Are you betting about INno winning the tournament, or about if he can beat DRG or not?

GSL I assume? Altho I will take beating DRG too

Be careful what you wish for. Don't wanna get whacked by the muta switch.
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 07:37:02
July 25 2020 07:34 GMT
#224
On July 25 2020 16:32 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:31 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:28 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:27 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:24 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:11 Cricketer12 wrote:
INno > Stats Finals


Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Permaban bet?


Let's go, 2013-2020.

Ok cool . Hopefuly you won't try to weasel out with another account.


Funny that you really think INno can win Dream/Rogue and a top protoss/TY.

I don't care, I'm just willing to wager to get rid of you.


It's riskier for you than for me considering his GSL track record post 2017, but ok. You were so close from the 50k bar...
TL+ Member
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 07:42:06
July 25 2020 07:37 GMT
#225
On July 25 2020 16:34 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:32 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:31 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:28 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:27 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:24 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
[quote]

Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Permaban bet?


Let's go, 2013-2020.

Ok cool . Hopefuly you won't try to weasel out with another account.


Funny that you really think INno can win Dream/Rogue and a top protoss/TY.

I don't care, I'm just willing to wager to get rid of you.


It's riskier for you than for me considering his GSL track record post 2017, but ok. You were so close from the 50k bar...


To make it fair, you should pick a champion too.

If Ej wins you're banned, if you win he's banned, and if you're both wrong nobody's banned–or both banned.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
July 25 2020 07:39 GMT
#226
Not so confident now eh, I bet on INno not winning and him on INno winning.
TL+ Member
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
July 25 2020 07:40 GMT
#227
On July 25 2020 16:39 DieuCure wrote:
Not so confident now eh, I bet on INno not winning and him on INno winning.

Ej said nothing. A 3rd party intervened to make things fair.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 25 2020 07:41 GMT
#228
On July 25 2020 16:37 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:34 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:32 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:31 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:28 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:27 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:24 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
[quote]

INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Permaban bet?


Let's go, 2013-2020.

Ok cool . Hopefuly you won't try to weasel out with another account.


Funny that you really think INno can win Dream/Rogue and a top protoss/TY.

I don't care, I'm just willing to wager to get rid of you.


It's riskier for you than for me considering his GSL track record post 2017, but ok. You were so close from the 50k bar...


To make it fair, you should pick a champion too.

If Ej wins you're banned, if you win he's banned, and if you're both wrong nobody's banned. Or if you want, both of you banned.


Ban both please.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 07:47:15
July 25 2020 07:46 GMT
#229
On July 25 2020 16:34 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:32 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:31 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:28 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:27 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:24 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:12 pvsnp wrote:
[quote]

Inno > DRG
Rogue > Dream
Parting > TY
Stats > Trap
----
Inno > Rogue
Stats > Parting
----
Inno > Stats

Seems pretty reasonable to me.


INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Permaban bet?


Let's go, 2013-2020.

Ok cool . Hopefuly you won't try to weasel out with another account.


Funny that you really think INno can win Dream/Rogue and a top protoss/TY.

I don't care, I'm just willing to wager to get rid of you.


It's riskier for you than for me considering his GSL track record post 2017, but ok. You were so close from the 50k bar...

Yeah but like I said, I couldn't care less about my TL account or who wins GSL. I just want to get rid of you
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 25 2020 07:47 GMT
#230
Was just checking to see if the games were good, but damn I found something more spicy :D.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
July 25 2020 07:51 GMT
#231
This group surprised pleasantly! Original prediction of Zest and Cure went out the window but happy to see Stats on form again. Looking at the bracket I think Stats could realistically make finals, his PvP is really solid.

Also can I just point out how sick the day 1 of ro8 is? DRG vs INno and Dream vs Rogue? Can't wait.
Mine gas, build tanks.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 25 2020 07:53 GMT
#232
Aligulac gives INno something like a 40% chance, so this might actually be a surprisingly competitive bet.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 08:08:39
July 25 2020 08:08 GMT
#233
Knew Stats would win the group. I expected more from Cure tho tbh.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
July 25 2020 08:10 GMT
#234
i also think inno is favoured to win it all but TY and trap are super dangerous players. it's still a terrible bet.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2627 Posts
July 25 2020 08:44 GMT
#235
On July 25 2020 16:46 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2020 16:34 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:32 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:31 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:28 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:27 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:24 Ej_ wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:23 DieuCure wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:20 pvsnp wrote:
On July 25 2020 16:18 Argonauta wrote:
[quote]

INno Vation is going to lose either vs DRG either vs Dream/Rogue. 0 chances to win this GSL. Maru has more chances to win it than INno


Inno literally has the best TvZ in the world right now, but sure.


And yet couldn't deal with Reynor, he isn't going to win this tournament.

Permaban bet?


Let's go, 2013-2020.

Ok cool . Hopefuly you won't try to weasel out with another account.


Funny that you really think INno can win Dream/Rogue and a top protoss/TY.

I don't care, I'm just willing to wager to get rid of you.


It's riskier for you than for me considering his GSL track record post 2017, but ok. You were so close from the 50k bar...

Yeah but like I said, I couldn't care less about my TL account or who wins GSL. I just want to get rid of you


Its win-win scenario for the rest of TL either way.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4001 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 08:47:38
July 25 2020 08:47 GMT
#236
ok, who is with me to bet on Ej_ winning his bet?
+ Show Spoiler +

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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-25 14:23:34
July 25 2020 13:26 GMT
#237
Best players in their respective race all in one group of death.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
July 25 2020 13:41 GMT
#238
Come on Statsuuuuu
I Protoss winner, could it be?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25107 Posts
July 25 2020 15:15 GMT
#239
This bet may be the most exciting storyline of this GSL so far.

Pretty meh day all round. Cure didn’t so much not being his A game as decide to bring his D game, PvZ gonna PvZ. One great nail biter between Stats and Rogue though.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Garbo1
Profile Joined July 2020
49 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-26 05:07:07
July 26 2020 04:58 GMT
#240
I have a hard time believing Cure hasn't been corrupted for this round. He threw so hard with his choice of builds, and landing vikings to have them killed by disruptor when there were colossi one screen over killing his marines, it just looks incredibly suspicious considering how dominant he's been this year.

And just straight up not building workers? Come on.

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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
July 26 2020 11:41 GMT
#241
On July 26 2020 13:58 Garbo1 wrote:
I have a hard time believing Cure hasn't been corrupted for this round. He threw so hard with his choice of builds, and landing vikings to have them killed by disruptor when there were colossi one screen over killing his marines, it just looks incredibly suspicious considering how dominant he's been this year.

And just straight up not building workers? Come on.


Everyone except the uber machine Serral has a super bad day sometimes. Didn't find it suspicious at all he just played terribly all around and was up against good PvT players
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
bela.mervado
Profile Joined December 2008
Hungary387 Posts
July 26 2020 14:03 GMT
#242
just watched Rogue vs Zest, awful series
was cheering for Stats+Rogue to get through so I'm kinda happy
but thought Cure would take this easily
.. I was wrong
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