On May 08 2020 20:12 Durnuu wrote: Solar looks an awful lot like Showtime here
Nah, it's that new style trending in Korea called "Powder Face". The amount of makeup it took for Solar to nail down that look is incredible. He's going to need to win the GSL to pay for all the supplies.
On May 08 2020 22:26 Nebuchad wrote: I didn't pay that much attention to it when I looked at the Ro16 but this is actually a pretty sick group.
It's a group of exceptional players who never lived up to their potential and stats. I think all of them have a ton of potential this season too.
Ah yes the IEM World Champion TY who has never lived to his potential, just like the 1-time GSL semifinalist Cure.
As someone who has been watching Ty since he was BaBy back in 2008 (a 12 year span), yes I can confidently say he has not lived up to his potential in terms of championship results. It's the same for watching Light as long as I have and he finally won a premier tournament in the KSL.
On May 08 2020 23:27 Ej_ wrote: The map pool in the OP is wrong. PnI has been replaced by the new 4p map.
On May 08 2020 22:37 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 08 2020 22:26 Nebuchad wrote: I didn't pay that much attention to it when I looked at the Ro16 but this is actually a pretty sick group.
It's a group of exceptional players who never lived up to their potential and stats. I think all of them have a ton of potential this season too.
Ah yes the IEM World Champion TY who has never lived to his potential, just like the 1-time GSL semifinalist Cure.
As someone who has been watching Ty since he was BaBy back in 2008 (a 12 year span), yes I can confidently say he has not lived up to his potential in terms of championship results. It's the same for watching Light as long as I have and he finally won a premier tournament in the KSL.
Of course, KSL is nothing as measly as an IEM World Championship
On May 08 2020 23:27 Ej_ wrote: The map pool in the OP is wrong. PnI has been replaced by the new 4p map.
On May 08 2020 22:37 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 08 2020 22:26 Nebuchad wrote: I didn't pay that much attention to it when I looked at the Ro16 but this is actually a pretty sick group.
It's a group of exceptional players who never lived up to their potential and stats. I think all of them have a ton of potential this season too.
Ah yes the IEM World Champion TY who has never lived to his potential, just like the 1-time GSL semifinalist Cure.
As someone who has been watching Ty since he was BaBy back in 2008 (a 12 year span), yes I can confidently say he has not lived up to his potential in terms of championship results. It's the same for watching Light as long as I have and he finally won a premier tournament in the KSL.
Of course, KSL is nothing as measly as an IEM World Championship
I'm allowed to have an opinion different from yours without being mean about it. You are allowed to do the same.
On May 08 2020 23:27 Ej_ wrote: The map pool in the OP is wrong. PnI has been replaced by the new 4p map.
On May 08 2020 22:37 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 08 2020 22:26 Nebuchad wrote: I didn't pay that much attention to it when I looked at the Ro16 but this is actually a pretty sick group.
It's a group of exceptional players who never lived up to their potential and stats. I think all of them have a ton of potential this season too.
Ah yes the IEM World Champion TY who has never lived to his potential, just like the 1-time GSL semifinalist Cure.
As someone who has been watching Ty since he was BaBy back in 2008 (a 12 year span), yes I can confidently say he has not lived up to his potential in terms of championship results. It's the same for watching Light as long as I have and he finally won a premier tournament in the KSL.
Of course, KSL is nothing as measly as an IEM World Championship
I'm allowed to have an opinion different from yours without being mean about it. You are allowed to do the same.
I don't know how anyone can look at TY's career knowing what a prodigy he appeared to be when he made his first professional appearance and say that he's definitely lived up to those lofty expectations. I think you're absolutely right that he hasn't, even if he's (only now) finally reached a level that many envisioned for him.
On May 09 2020 13:25 Fango wrote: TY really needs to win here. Second place would be suicide for any of these guys against Dark in the ro8.
If TY gets the win i can definitely see him beating PartinG/soO in the ro4
Dark has hardly been invincible in ZvT recently. Dark is favoured against TY/Cure, but the upset wouldn't be that surprising.
not to mention caster could come up with some incredible dank proxies
Yeah, but I don't think he necessarily needs those dank proxies. Sure I'd be surprised if TY pulled out a performance like INno's in NEXT against Dark, but he's more than capable of playing like Dream did a month ago:
On May 09 2020 13:24 chipmonklord17 wrote: it looked more like Solar gave up than anything else
I mean, he just got BO countered. What can you do
Go back into his nydus and play the game out from behind instead of choosing to insta lose?
He already insta lost, whether he wants to drag it out or not is up to him but he was more than just "behind".
When you're already down 0-1 you may as well play it out instead of sending yourself to the lower bracket
It's only worth playing it out if you have some sort of chance of winning. In this case Solar was just behind in every way with nothing to make TY's job of converting the position into a win in the slightest complicated.
On May 09 2020 13:24 chipmonklord17 wrote: it looked more like Solar gave up than anything else
I mean, he just got BO countered. What can you do
Go back into his nydus and play the game out from behind instead of choosing to insta lose?
He already insta lost, whether he wants to drag it out or not is up to him but he was more than just "behind".
When you're already down 0-1 you may as well play it out instead of sending yourself to the lower bracket
He didn't send himself down, he literally just gambled incorrectly and lost the game. What tangible benefit do you get from playing out that game and still losing, he had nothing going for him to make that a competitive game. May as well leave and get ready for the next series.
On May 09 2020 13:24 chipmonklord17 wrote: it looked more like Solar gave up than anything else
I mean, he just got BO countered. What can you do
Go back into his nydus and play the game out from behind instead of choosing to insta lose?
He already insta lost, whether he wants to drag it out or not is up to him but he was more than just "behind".
When you're already down 0-1 you may as well play it out instead of sending yourself to the lower bracket
He s playing another T eventually, so why should he reveal more of his preperation?
That makes no sense. Obviously the prep is the all in build. Anything beyond that is free wheeling. There's no reason to not keep playing in that case. Sure he's losing 99 times out of 100, but its better than just running your army in and quitting
On May 09 2020 13:25 Fango wrote: TY really needs to win here. Second place would be suicide for any of these guys against Dark in the ro8.
If TY gets the win i can definitely see him beating PartinG/soO in the ro4
Dark has hardly been invincible in ZvT recently. Dark is favoured against TY/Cure, but the upset wouldn't be that surprising.
not to mention caster could come up with some incredible dank proxies
Yeah, but I don't think he necessarily needs those dank proxies. Sure I'd be surprised if TY pulled out a performance like INno's in NEXT against Dark, but he's more than capable of playing like Dream did a month ago:
Not trying to sound too Illuminati Confirmed, but it will be interesting to see how many of these technical delays are legit after it's all said and done. Can see it being used as a mind game, particularly against someone who doesn't do as well in offline like Cure.
On May 09 2020 13:24 chipmonklord17 wrote: it looked more like Solar gave up than anything else
I mean, he just got BO countered. What can you do
Go back into his nydus and play the game out from behind instead of choosing to insta lose?
He already insta lost, whether he wants to drag it out or not is up to him but he was more than just "behind".
When you're already down 0-1 you may as well play it out instead of sending yourself to the lower bracket
He s playing another T eventually, so why should he reveal more of his preperation?
That makes no sense. Obviously the prep is the all in build. Anything beyond that is free wheeling. There's no reason to not keep playing in that case. Sure he's losing 99 times out of 100, but its better than just running your army in and quitting
He should have waited until his last building fell down !
On May 09 2020 13:42 Latr02 wrote: Not trying to sound too Illuminati Confirmed, but it will be interesting to see how many of these technical delays are legit after it's all said and done. Can see it being used as a mind game, particularly against someone who doesn't do as well in offline like Cure.
Pretty sure if you have to get admins involved, it would look very suspicious if you can't show evidence of an issue. I'm not saying it's impossible but I feel like it's equally an interruption for both players in most scenarios.
On May 09 2020 13:42 Latr02 wrote: Not trying to sound too Illuminati Confirmed, but it will be interesting to see how many of these technical delays are legit after it's all said and done. Can see it being used as a mind game, particularly against someone who doesn't do as well in offline like Cure.
Pretty sure if you have to get admins involved, it would look very suspicious if you can't show evidence of an issue. I'm not saying it's impossible but I feel like it's equally an interruption for both players in most scenarios.
There are much easier ways to do that sort of dumb mindgame if you really want to. Just pause the game and fix your hotkeys 20 seconds in like what herO did.
On May 09 2020 13:42 Latr02 wrote: Not trying to sound too Illuminati Confirmed, but it will be interesting to see how many of these technical delays are legit after it's all said and done. Can see it being used as a mind game, particularly against someone who doesn't do as well in offline like Cure.
Pretty sure if you have to get admins involved, it would look very suspicious if you can't show evidence of an issue. I'm not saying it's impossible but I feel like it's equally an interruption for both players in most scenarios.
There are much easier ways to do that sort of dumb mindgame if you really want to. Just pause the game and fix your hotkeys 20 seconds in like what herO did.
For sure.
Also I love greedy drilling claws openings in TvP. This is like how souL plays in Europe.
On May 09 2020 13:42 Latr02 wrote: Not trying to sound too Illuminati Confirmed, but it will be interesting to see how many of these technical delays are legit after it's all said and done. Can see it being used as a mind game, particularly against someone who doesn't do as well in offline like Cure.
Pretty sure if you have to get admins involved, it would look very suspicious if you can't show evidence of an issue. I'm not saying it's impossible but I feel like it's equally an interruption for both players in most scenarios.
There are much easier ways to do that sort of dumb mindgame if you really want to. Just pause the game and fix your hotkeys 20 seconds in like what herO did.
For sure.
Also I love greedy drilling claws openings in TvP. This is like how souL plays in Europe.
It feels like souL almost always gets ahead with them too (though he has been iffy on capitalizing on that advantage such as against MaNa in the TSL qualifiers).
On May 09 2020 13:42 Latr02 wrote: Not trying to sound too Illuminati Confirmed, but it will be interesting to see how many of these technical delays are legit after it's all said and done. Can see it being used as a mind game, particularly against someone who doesn't do as well in offline like Cure.
Pretty sure if you have to get admins involved, it would look very suspicious if you can't show evidence of an issue. I'm not saying it's impossible but I feel like it's equally an interruption for both players in most scenarios.
There are much easier ways to do that sort of dumb mindgame if you really want to. Just pause the game and fix your hotkeys 20 seconds in like what herO did.
For sure.
Also I love greedy drilling claws openings in TvP. This is like how souL plays in Europe.
It feels like souL almost always gets ahead with them too (though he has been iffy on capitalizing on that advantage such as against MaNa in the TSL qualifiers).
I feel like terran always gets ahead with this opening, regardless of damage done. It's kind of insane.
It obviously has weak points where you could kill the terran but if protoss can't capitalise on that, you get a game like this.
On May 09 2020 13:49 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Damn Stats is not losing much to these.
I would have lost all probes already and be tilted to the moon
It seems like it would be more tilting to defend the drops and then lose regardless
Frankly this is so much like my PvT used to go. Lead > losing to massive bio balls after terran is established on 3 cc. But I am bad, so I would lose to first drop probably :D
On May 09 2020 14:10 Topin wrote: where is Dieucure?
edit: defensive 2rax? huh
It's mainly used as a counter to the aggressive proxy 2 rax reaper. But you're not too far behind if that doesn't happen either. In December/January there were a few weeks where Korean TvT was really dumb, and revolved around proxy 2 rax reaper, countered by defensive 2 rax reaper, countered by proxy 3 rax reaper so this was a bit of a throwback.
On May 09 2020 14:16 ssg wrote: What's the point of the new map if it has been vetoed in all 8 series so far
Someone at Afreeca really likes 4p maps. With only one map that's non-ladder it really doesn't stand a chance of making it through the vetoes (even if it wasn't a 4p map). Really what Afreeca should do is introduce 3+ new maps so they have to get practiced/played for bo5s.
On May 09 2020 14:24 serralfan18 wrote: Is it just me or do the casters sound a little TY biased? Is it because they are co-workers and it would cause workplace drama if they were critical?
They've been TY fans longer than TY has been moonlighting as a caster. I don't think it's a problem though.
On May 09 2020 14:24 serralfan18 wrote: Is it just me or do the casters sound a little TY biased? Is it because they are co-workers and it would cause workplace drama if they were critical?
Tastetosis has always loved TY, and personally I think they overrate him a bit
On May 09 2020 14:24 serralfan18 wrote: Is it just me or do the casters sound a little TY biased? Is it because they are co-workers and it would cause workplace drama if they were critical?
Side effect of TY being a far more tenured and accomplished player I think.
I really wish sc2 ladder/tournament maps had unbuildable terrain. It would cut down on the number of proxies a bit. BW has had it for 18 years now, so it's not exactly an innovation. :/
On May 09 2020 14:24 serralfan18 wrote: Is it just me or do the casters sound a little TY biased? Is it because they are co-workers and it would cause workplace drama if they were critical?
They've been TY fans longer than TY has been moonlighting as a caster. I don't think it's a problem though.
Yeah not a real problem to me either. Just a little annoyed of them not being as unbiased and objective as possible. That's why I suggested that it would cause workplace drama as in my mind, I think that casters should be unbiased and objective in everything they say when casting.
That being said, I recognize that they are humans and humans are biased towards what they like.
On May 09 2020 14:24 serralfan18 wrote: Is it just me or do the casters sound a little TY biased? Is it because they are co-workers and it would cause workplace drama if they were critical?
They've been TY fans longer than TY has been moonlighting as a caster. I don't think it's a problem though.
Yeah not a real problem to me either. Just a little annoyed of them not being as unbiased and objective as possible. That's why I suggested that it would cause workplace drama as in my mind, I think that casters should be unbiased and objective in everything they say when casting.
That being said, I recognize that they are humans and humans are biased towards what they like.
oh yea, I agree with serralfan18, caster bias can be really annoying
On May 09 2020 14:24 serralfan18 wrote: Is it just me or do the casters sound a little TY biased? Is it because they are co-workers and it would cause workplace drama if they were critical?
They've been TY fans longer than TY has been moonlighting as a caster. I don't think it's a problem though.
Yeah not a real problem to me either. Just a little annoyed of them not being as unbiased and objective as possible. That's why I suggested that it would cause workplace drama as in my mind, I think that casters should be unbiased and objective in everything they say when casting.
That being said, I recognize that they are humans and humans are biased towards what they like.
oh yea, I agree with serralfan18, caster bias can be really annoying
On May 09 2020 14:24 serralfan18 wrote: Is it just me or do the casters sound a little TY biased? Is it because they are co-workers and it would cause workplace drama if they were critical?
They've been TY fans longer than TY has been moonlighting as a caster. I don't think it's a problem though.
Yeah not a real problem to me either. Just a little annoyed of them not being as unbiased and objective as possible. That's why I suggested that it would cause workplace drama as in my mind, I think that casters should be unbiased and objective in everything they say when casting.
That being said, I recognize that they are humans and humans are biased towards what they like.
oh yea, I agree with serralfan18, caster bias can be really annoying
Also, happy about avoiding the DPG team kill.
Really though I don't think Tastosis have ever even pretended to be unbiased. There's always someone they side with.
Let's see if TY has anything prepared for Stats. Didn't seem like he had anything ready for Cure. Well nothing that lined up with Cure's planning anyway.
Also will be interesting if Stats' prep for today extends beyond playing normal games.
On May 09 2020 15:07 Elentos wrote: Let's see if TY has anything prepared for Stats. Didn't seem like he had anything ready for Cure. Well nothing that lined up with Cure's planning anyway.
Also will be interesting if Stats' prep for today extends beyond playing normal games.
Generally speaking I have more faith in TY's prep. than Stats. When Stats prepares stuff it often just doesn't look as good as his normal stuff.
On May 09 2020 15:11 serralfan18 wrote: Anyone know why Life wasn't shown on this highlight reel? If I remember correctly, he was GSL's first total roader.
On May 09 2020 15:11 serralfan18 wrote: Anyone know why Life wasn't shown on this highlight reel? If I remember correctly, he was GSL's first total roader.
He was retroactively removed from every tournament record for being a matchfixer. His name was removed from the Blizzcon trophy even.
On May 09 2020 15:11 serralfan18 wrote: Anyone know why Life wasn't shown on this highlight reel? If I remember correctly, he was GSL's first total roader.
You could be more creative. You posted that exact same comment before.
Why make a ripoff of Darkness Sanctuary? If GSL wants to try using some of their own maps maybe they should experiment with unique ones like golden wall.
On May 09 2020 15:18 Morbidius wrote: Why make a ripoff of Darkness Sanctuary? If GSL wants to try using some of their own maps maybe they should experiment with unique ones like golden wall.
They want to make 4-player maps work, they always remove the most vetoed and weirdest map for that. The best 4-p map GSL has seen in LotV has been Whirlwind though.
On May 09 2020 15:18 Morbidius wrote: Why make a ripoff of Darkness Sanctuary? If GSL wants to try using some of their own maps maybe they should experiment with unique ones like golden wall.
They want to make 4-player maps work, they always remove the most vetoed and weirdest map for that. The best 4-p map GSL has seen in LotV has been Whirlwind though.
Makes sense, since Whirlwind is in the upper echelon of SC2 maps.
I think TY should have started using hellions to harass instead of the banshees after Stats added phoenixes. The banshees never really accomplished anything offensively but saved him at home a few times.
Wow... this game felt a bit like a game of throws in my opinion. Almost all attacks of Stats were straight up bad, then TY moved out and lost his army for no reason while being economically ahead
On May 09 2020 15:41 Schelim wrote: i like how Stats randomly got +1/+1 for air off double cyber core at some point in the middle of the game yet never had more than 3 air units
On May 08 2020 23:27 Ej_ wrote: The map pool in the OP is wrong. PnI has been replaced by the new 4p map.
On May 08 2020 22:37 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 08 2020 22:26 Nebuchad wrote: I didn't pay that much attention to it when I looked at the Ro16 but this is actually a pretty sick group.
It's a group of exceptional players who never lived up to their potential and stats. I think all of them have a ton of potential this season too.
Ah yes the IEM World Champion TY who has never lived to his potential, just like the 1-time GSL semifinalist Cure.
As someone who has been watching Ty since he was BaBy back in 2008 (a 12 year span), yes I can confidently say he has not lived up to his potential in terms of championship results. It's the same for watching Light as long as I have and he finally won a premier tournament in the KSL.
Of course, KSL is nothing as measly as an IEM World Championship
I'm allowed to have an opinion different from yours without being mean about it. You are allowed to do the same.
I don't know how anyone can look at TY's career knowing what a prodigy he appeared to be when he made his first professional appearance and say that he's definitely lived up to those lofty expectations. I think you're absolutely right that he hasn't, even if he's (only now) finally reached a level that many envisioned for him.
I dont know how anyone can single out Stats in that group and then put TY in the same bag as Cure, but to each their own.
TY has achieved much more than Cure. But I also think TY had potential to be the absolute best there ever was, while Cure was maybe good enough to win some tournaments but never quite managed it.
TY seems to always play exeedingly well then find a way to defeat himself before getting the chance to lift the trophy. Cure just never plays that well offline.
On May 09 2020 16:16 Fango wrote: TY has made 10/12 GSL playoffs in LotV. Still more than any other player
Stats has only made 5, INnoVation only 3, and Maru 7.
I have a spreadsheet with the LotV GSL results of all players in this Ro16 (things I do when I'm bored ). TY's average GSL result this expansion is Ro8, the only other player who matches that is Dark who has a slightly better average because he has 0 Ro32 eliminations.
On May 09 2020 16:55 Vanadiel wrote: Yeah that's true. Isn't ty the king of leading 2-0 and then lose 3-2?
I've said this before, but he would have been called a bonjwa in 2017 if he had won all the series he lost 3-2 after going up 2-0. Almost all those matches were against the opponents that would have been his biggest challenge in each given event.
On May 09 2020 16:16 Fango wrote: TY has made 10/12 GSL playoffs in LotV. Still more than any other player
Stats has only made 5, INnoVation only 3, and Maru 7.
I have a spreadsheet with the LotV GSL results of all players in this Ro16 (things I do when I'm bored ). TY's average GSL result this expansion is Ro8, the only other player who matches that is Dark who has a slightly better average because he has 0 Ro32 eliminations.
Surely there's no way Maru averages lower than ro8 right? Out of 11 seasons he's only finished below ro8 4 times (with the above scores including 4 wins and 2 ro4s).
On May 09 2020 16:55 Vanadiel wrote: Yeah that's true. Isn't ty the king of leading 2-0 and then lose 3-2?
I've said this before, but he would have been called a bonjwa in 2017 if he had won all the series he lost 3-2 after going up 2-0. Almost all those matches were against the opponents that would have been his biggest challenge in each given event.
Well I do believe 2017 is simultaneously the best and most disappointing year of TY's career, but he definitely wouldn't have auto-won 2 GSLs, IEM and Blizzcon by winning a 3rd map in each of those series. Well probably Blizzcon cause soO in the finals would have been his last opponent.
On May 09 2020 16:16 Fango wrote: TY has made 10/12 GSL playoffs in LotV. Still more than any other player
Stats has only made 5, INnoVation only 3, and Maru 7.
I have a spreadsheet with the LotV GSL results of all players in this Ro16 (things I do when I'm bored ). TY's average GSL result this expansion is Ro8, the only other player who matches that is Dark who has a slightly better average because he has 0 Ro32 eliminations.
Surely there's no way Maru averages lower than ro8 right? Out of 11 seasons he's only finished below ro8 4 times (with the above scores including 4 wins and 2 ro4s).
His average is exactly 9th place. This is mainly because he lost in Code A once (but also 2 Ro32 exits). If he had no losses before Ro16 like Dark, Maru would almost average Ro4.
On May 09 2020 16:55 Vanadiel wrote: Yeah that's true. Isn't ty the king of leading 2-0 and then lose 3-2?
I've said this before, but he would have been called a bonjwa in 2017 if he had won all the series he lost 3-2 after going up 2-0. Almost all those matches were against the opponents that would have been his biggest challenge in each given event.
Well I do believe 2017 is simultaneously the best and most disappointing year of TY's career, but he definitely wouldn't have auto-won 2 GSLs, IEM and Blizzcon by winning a 3rd map in each of those series. Well probably Blizzcon cause soO in the finals would have been his last opponent.
On May 09 2020 16:16 Fango wrote: TY has made 10/12 GSL playoffs in LotV. Still more than any other player
Stats has only made 5, INnoVation only 3, and Maru 7.
I have a spreadsheet with the LotV GSL results of all players in this Ro16 (things I do when I'm bored ). TY's average GSL result this expansion is Ro8, the only other player who matches that is Dark who has a slightly better average because he has 0 Ro32 eliminations.
Surely there's no way Maru averages lower than ro8 right? Out of 11 seasons he's only finished below ro8 4 times (with the above scores including 4 wins and 2 ro4s).
His average is exactly 9th place. This is mainly because he lost in Code A once (but also 2 Ro32 exits). If he had no losses before Ro16 like Dark, Maru would almost average Ro4.
Did you calculate that by using ro32 as 32, ro16 as 16 etc? If so I think that's a flawed approach, since for example ro32 and ro8 would average out at 20, instead of the intuitive 16. (Bad results would weight more than good ones in general)
On May 09 2020 16:55 Vanadiel wrote: Yeah that's true. Isn't ty the king of leading 2-0 and then lose 3-2?
I've said this before, but he would have been called a bonjwa in 2017 if he had won all the series he lost 3-2 after going up 2-0. Almost all those matches were against the opponents that would have been his biggest challenge in each given event.
Well I do believe 2017 is simultaneously the best and most disappointing year of TY's career, but he definitely wouldn't have auto-won 2 GSLs, IEM and Blizzcon by winning a 3rd map in each of those series. Well probably Blizzcon cause soO in the finals would have been his last opponent.
On May 09 2020 17:26 Fango wrote:
On May 09 2020 17:12 Elentos wrote:
On May 09 2020 16:16 Fango wrote: TY has made 10/12 GSL playoffs in LotV. Still more than any other player
Stats has only made 5, INnoVation only 3, and Maru 7.
I have a spreadsheet with the LotV GSL results of all players in this Ro16 (things I do when I'm bored ). TY's average GSL result this expansion is Ro8, the only other player who matches that is Dark who has a slightly better average because he has 0 Ro32 eliminations.
Surely there's no way Maru averages lower than ro8 right? Out of 11 seasons he's only finished below ro8 4 times (with the above scores including 4 wins and 2 ro4s).
His average is exactly 9th place. This is mainly because he lost in Code A once (but also 2 Ro32 exits). If he had no losses before Ro16 like Dark, Maru would almost average Ro4.
Did you calculate that by using ro32 as 32, ro16 as 16 etc? If so I think that's a flawed approach, since for example ro32 and ro8 would average out at 20, instead of the intuitive 16. (Bad results would weight more than good ones in general)
It's calculated optimistically. 4th place in Ro32 is 25, 3rd is 17. 4th place in Ro16 is 13, 3rd is 9. Ro8 is 5, Ro4 is 3. Because functionally those players that are eliminated in those rounds are all tied for the same position.
Not that it changes the order the players end up in.
On May 09 2020 18:35 Argonauta wrote: Just saw the games. Props to Cure for advancing and wtf Stats? I was expecting more of the shield of Aiur
Even aside from the meta not being great for Stats' playstyle, I don't think he's really the same Stats he used to be. And today may have been the last time he plays GSL before military, I think Stats implied there was a possibility of this being his last GSL. Hope not though.
On May 09 2020 18:35 Argonauta wrote: Just saw the games. Props to Cure for advancing and wtf Stats? I was expecting more of the shield of Aiur
Even aside from the meta not being great for Stats' playstyle, I don't think he's really the same Stats he used to be. And today may have been the last time he plays GSL before military, I think Stats implied there was a possibility of this being his last GSL. Hope not though.
No he is not, I am not sure how the military works exactly in korea but maybe knowing you are going to expend 1 or 2 years isolated from family and friends and normal life in general makes you want to enjoy life more
On May 09 2020 19:51 Vindicare605 wrote: This group definitely didn't live up to its "almost GROUP OF DEATH" title.
But nonetheless, Cure and TY are advancing. The tournament is in a good place.
Yeah, in a way. On paper it looked like the one with the most even chances for all. But part of that is that nobody was quite sure what kinda shape Cure and Solar would be in on the day. Cure goes through in first? A lot of us were hoping for something like that, but who had confidence in predicting this outcome? Similarly, Solar out last? This would be a reasonable thing to guess for this group, but I really didn't expect him to get THAT wrecked. What I'm saying is that you're right that it wasn't close in the classic group of death way, but the final outcome was, I think, as unpredictable as it looked beforehand.
TY vs Dark. This is the best matchup in all Starcraft right here, this is what I think of when I think of Terran forces fighting the Zerg is with these two commanding.
Why does Stats dmg everything to red. Like perfect shade fakes. Then when it's time to kill everything, he engages the lings >< Soooo tilting howwwww. edit* Oh and he all queen energy used....
On May 09 2020 16:55 Vanadiel wrote: Yeah that's true. Isn't ty the king of leading 2-0 and then lose 3-2?
I've said this before, but he would have been called a bonjwa in 2017 if he had won all the series he lost 3-2 after going up 2-0. Almost all those matches were against the opponents that would have been his biggest challenge in each given event.
Well I do believe 2017 is simultaneously the best and most disappointing year of TY's career, but he definitely wouldn't have auto-won 2 GSLs, IEM and Blizzcon by winning a 3rd map in each of those series. Well probably Blizzcon cause soO in the finals would have been his last opponent
Maybe not auto won. But he would have been extremely favoured to win t least GSL season 2 and blizzcon. Both times he would have had to face soO in the finals, who even without the soO factor just didn't have great ZvT.