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Durnuu
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BisuDagger
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On May 08 2020 20:12 Durnuu wrote: Solar looks an awful lot like Showtime here Nah, it's that new style trending in Korea called "Powder Face". The amount of makeup it took for Solar to nail down that look is incredible. He's going to need to win the GSL to pay for all the supplies. | ||
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BisuDagger
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On May 08 2020 22:26 Nebuchad wrote: I didn't pay that much attention to it when I looked at the Ro16 but this is actually a pretty sick group. It's a group of exceptional players who never lived up to their potential and stats. I think all of them have a ton of potential this season too. | ||
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Ej_
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On May 08 2020 22:37 BisuDagger wrote: It's a group of exceptional players who never lived up to their potential and stats. I think all of them have a ton of potential this season too. Ah yes the IEM World Champion TY who has never lived to his potential, just like the 1-time GSL semifinalist Cure. | ||
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Elentos
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On May 08 2020 23:27 Ej_ wrote: The map pool in the OP is wrong. PnI has been replaced by the new 4p map. Ah yes the IEM World Champion TY who has never lived to his potential, just like the 1-time GSL semifinalist Cure. Excuse you, he's a 2 time GSL semifinalist with a 3-4 vs Inno and an 0-4 vs TY to his name. | ||
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Durnuu
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On May 08 2020 23:31 Elentos wrote: Excuse you, he's a 2 time GSL semifinalist with a 3-4 vs Inno and an 0-4 vs TY to his name. Bad bracket luck  | ||
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BisuDagger
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On May 08 2020 23:27 Ej_ wrote: The map pool in the OP is wrong. PnI has been replaced by the new 4p map. Ah yes the IEM World Champion TY who has never lived to his potential, just like the 1-time GSL semifinalist Cure. As someone who has been watching Ty since he was BaBy back in 2008 (a 12 year span), yes I can confidently say he has not lived up to his potential in terms of championship results. It's the same for watching Light as long as I have and he finally won a premier tournament in the KSL. | ||
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Ej_
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On May 08 2020 23:53 BisuDagger wrote: As someone who has been watching Ty since he was BaBy back in 2008 (a 12 year span), yes I can confidently say he has not lived up to his potential in terms of championship results. It's the same for watching Light as long as I have and he finally won a premier tournament in the KSL. Of course, KSL is nothing as measly as an IEM World Championship | ||
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Pandemona
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On May 08 2020 23:27 Ej_ wrote: The map pool in the OP is wrong. PnI has been replaced by the new 4p map. Ah yes the IEM World Champion TY who has never lived to his potential, just like the 1-time GSL semifinalist Cure. True, didn't notice 2 map pools just changed. EJ being useful what the .... | ||
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BisuDagger
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On May 09 2020 00:09 Ej_ wrote: Of course, KSL is nothing as measly as an IEM World Championship I'm allowed to have an opinion different from yours without being mean about it. You are allowed to do the same.  | ||
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Zealously
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On May 09 2020 00:30 BisuDagger wrote: I'm allowed to have an opinion different from yours without being mean about it. You are allowed to do the same. I don't know how anyone can look at TY's career knowing what a prodigy he appeared to be when he made his first professional appearance and say that he's definitely lived up to those lofty expectations. I think you're absolutely right that he hasn't, even if he's (only now) finally reached a level that many envisioned for him. | ||
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Sif_
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TY > Solar | ||
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Vindicare605
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catplanetcatplanet
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3/4 of these guys qualified for tsl (Stats didn't try, I think) | ||
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Vindicare605
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Group D has like 9 GSL golds. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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edit: I really thought he was going to fake a regular 2 rax while floating 2 into the main, but this is good too. | ||
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serralfan18
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On May 09 2020 13:23 Nakajin wrote: That was one of the worst looking game I ever saw Does it beat Nestea vs Inca? | ||
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johnnywup
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On May 09 2020 13:24 chipmonklord17 wrote: it looked more like Solar gave up than anything else I mean, he just got BO countered. What can you do | ||
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Fango
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If TY gets the win i can definitely see him beating PartinG/soO in the ro4 | ||
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seemsgood
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On May 09 2020 13:23 Latr02 wrote: Stim is a good upgrade everyone gangsta till the stimmy bois come | ||
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DieuCure
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On May 09 2020 13:25 Fango wrote: TY really needs to win here. Second place would be suicide for any of these guys against Dark in the ro8. If TY gets the win i can definitely see him beating PartinG/soO in the ro4 Dark' ZvT isn't that good though. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On May 09 2020 13:25 Fango wrote: TY really needs to win here. Second place would be suicide for any of these guys against Dark in the ro8. If TY gets the win i can definitely see him beating PartinG/soO in the ro4 Dark has hardly been invincible in ZvT recently. Dark is favoured against TY/Cure, but the upset wouldn't be that surprising. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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On May 09 2020 13:25 blooblooblahblah wrote: I mean, he just got BO countered. What can you do Go back into his nydus and play the game out from behind instead of choosing to insta lose? | ||
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seemsgood
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On May 09 2020 13:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Dark has hardly been invincible in ZvT recently. Dark is favoured against TY/Cure, but the upset wouldn't be that surprising. not to mention caster could come up with some incredible dank proxies | ||
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blooblooblahblah
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On May 09 2020 13:30 chipmonklord17 wrote: Go back into his nydus and play the game out from behind instead of choosing to insta lose? He already insta lost, whether he wants to drag it out or not is up to him but he was more than just "behind". | ||
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chipmonklord17
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On May 09 2020 13:32 blooblooblahblah wrote: He already insta lost, whether he wants to drag it out or not is up to him but he was more than just "behind". When you're already down 0-1 you may as well play it out instead of sending yourself to the lower bracket | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On May 09 2020 13:31 seemsgood wrote: not to mention caster could come up with some incredible dank proxies Yeah, but I don't think he necessarily needs those dank proxies. Sure I'd be surprised if TY pulled out a performance like INno's in NEXT against Dark, but he's more than capable of playing like Dream did a month ago: | ||
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Latr02
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you kno you lost when you got not only the bois but also the stimmy bois coming for your hide | ||
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dbRic1203
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On May 09 2020 13:33 chipmonklord17 wrote: When you're already down 0-1 you may as well play it out instead of sending yourself to the lower bracket He s playing another T eventually, so why should he reveal more of his preperation? | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On May 09 2020 13:33 chipmonklord17 wrote: When you're already down 0-1 you may as well play it out instead of sending yourself to the lower bracket It's only worth playing it out if you have some sort of chance of winning. In this case Solar was just behind in every way with nothing to make TY's job of converting the position into a win in the slightest complicated. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
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On May 09 2020 13:33 chipmonklord17 wrote: When you're already down 0-1 you may as well play it out instead of sending yourself to the lower bracket He didn't send himself down, he literally just gambled incorrectly and lost the game. What tangible benefit do you get from playing out that game and still losing, he had nothing going for him to make that a competitive game. May as well leave and get ready for the next series. | ||
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johnnywup
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chipmonklord17
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On May 09 2020 13:35 dbRic1203 wrote: He s playing another T eventually, so why should he reveal more of his preperation? That makes no sense. Obviously the prep is the all in build. Anything beyond that is free wheeling. There's no reason to not keep playing in that case. Sure he's losing 99 times out of 100, but its better than just running your army in and quitting | ||
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Die4Ever
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On May 09 2020 13:39 Vindicare605 wrote: What is this delay? Start the games! I think they had to swap computers for Stats | ||
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seemsgood
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On May 09 2020 13:33 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Yeah, but I don't think he necessarily needs those dank proxies. Sure I'd be surprised if TY pulled out a performance like INno's in NEXT against Dark, but he's more than capable of playing like Dream did a month ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFPc0y4WFSw i d say one game in case caster loses one long macro game to Dark i can see he would 2 rax his way to the round of 4 | ||
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DieuCure
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On May 09 2020 13:37 chipmonklord17 wrote: That makes no sense. Obviously the prep is the all in build. Anything beyond that is free wheeling. There's no reason to not keep playing in that case. Sure he's losing 99 times out of 100, but its better than just running your army in and quitting He should have waited until his last building fell down ! | ||
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blooblooblahblah
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On May 09 2020 13:42 Latr02 wrote: Not trying to sound too Illuminati Confirmed, but it will be interesting to see how many of these technical delays are legit after it's all said and done. Can see it being used as a mind game, particularly against someone who doesn't do as well in offline like Cure. Pretty sure if you have to get admins involved, it would look very suspicious if you can't show evidence of an issue. I'm not saying it's impossible but I feel like it's equally an interruption for both players in most scenarios. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On May 09 2020 13:44 blooblooblahblah wrote: Pretty sure if you have to get admins involved, it would look very suspicious if you can't show evidence of an issue. I'm not saying it's impossible but I feel like it's equally an interruption for both players in most scenarios. There are much easier ways to do that sort of dumb mindgame if you really want to. Just pause the game and fix your hotkeys 20 seconds in like what herO did. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
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On May 09 2020 13:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote: There are much easier ways to do that sort of dumb mindgame if you really want to. Just pause the game and fix your hotkeys 20 seconds in like what herO did. For sure. Also I love greedy drilling claws openings in TvP. This is like how souL plays in Europe. | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
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I would have lost all probes already and be tilted to the moon | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On May 09 2020 13:48 blooblooblahblah wrote: For sure. Also I love greedy drilling claws openings in TvP. This is like how souL plays in Europe. It feels like souL almost always gets ahead with them too (though he has been iffy on capitalizing on that advantage such as against MaNa in the TSL qualifiers). | ||
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Sif_
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Stats with only gateway at like 10minutes with a big upgrade disadvantage lol | ||
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Zealously
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On May 09 2020 13:49 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Damn Stats is not losing much to these. I would have lost all probes already and be tilted to the moon It seems like it would be more tilting to defend the drops and then lose regardless  | ||
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blooblooblahblah
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On May 09 2020 13:52 ZigguratOfUr wrote: It feels like souL almost always gets ahead with them too (though he has been iffy on capitalizing on that advantage such as against MaNa in the TSL qualifiers). I feel like terran always gets ahead with this opening, regardless of damage done. It's kind of insane. It obviously has weak points where you could kill the terran but if protoss can't capitalise on that, you get a game like this. GG Cure. | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
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On May 09 2020 13:53 Zealously wrote: It seems like it would be more tilting to defend the drops and then lose regardless Frankly this is so much like my PvT used to go. Lead > losing to massive bio balls after terran is established on 3 cc. But I am bad, so I would lose to first drop probably :D | ||
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Lexender
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Stats wins this no? 1 base terran play isnt specially great vs P and an oracle would murder Cure. | ||
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On May 09 2020 13:56 Lexender wrote: proxy vs proxy? Stats wins this no? 1 base terran play isnt specially great vs P and an oracle would murder Cure. No that's actually extremely good for Cure. We've seen a lot of 1 base terran success recently in this matchup. | ||
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On May 09 2020 13:59 Topin wrote: i guess the oracle attacked the CC? It only got 5 SCVs due to Cure running the workers away I think. Tbf it could have cleared the mineral line and it wouldn't have made a difference. | ||
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seemsgood
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too much BO lost today,TY vs Solar games would ve been terrible as well if not because my extreme bias for castuerr | ||
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Die4Ever
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On May 09 2020 14:02 Nakajin wrote: With how bad the GSL have been until now, we're bound for a 7 games Maru-INno grand final with 3 draws. 7 games with 3 of them being draws means it's a 4-0? that would be extremely interesting | ||
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On May 09 2020 14:01 Morbidius wrote: Is this the new TvP meta? its just a well prepared proxy from DieuKure its just another reminder why GSL is the hardest | ||
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Topin
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ZigguratOfUr
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On May 09 2020 14:10 Topin wrote: where is Dieucure? edit: defensive 2rax? huh It's mainly used as a counter to the aggressive proxy 2 rax reaper. But you're not too far behind if that doesn't happen either. In December/January there were a few weeks where Korean TvT was really dumb, and revolved around proxy 2 rax reaper, countered by defensive 2 rax reaper, countered by proxy 3 rax reaper so this was a bit of a throwback. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On May 09 2020 14:16 ssg wrote: What's the point of the new map if it has been vetoed in all 8 series so far Someone at Afreeca really likes 4p maps. With only one map that's non-ladder it really doesn't stand a chance of making it through the vetoes (even if it wasn't a 4p map). Really what Afreeca should do is introduce 3+ new maps so they have to get practiced/played for bo5s. | ||
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On May 09 2020 14:24 serralfan18 wrote: Is it just me or do the casters sound a little TY biased? Is it because they are co-workers and it would cause workplace drama if they were critical? They've been TY fans longer than TY has been moonlighting as a caster. I don't think it's a problem though. | ||
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BerserkSword
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On May 09 2020 14:24 serralfan18 wrote: Is it just me or do the casters sound a little TY biased? Is it because they are co-workers and it would cause workplace drama if they were critical? Tastetosis has always loved TY, and personally I think they overrate him a bit | ||
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Zealously
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On May 09 2020 14:24 serralfan18 wrote: Is it just me or do the casters sound a little TY biased? Is it because they are co-workers and it would cause workplace drama if they were critical? Side effect of TY being a far more tenured and accomplished player I think. | ||
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Zealously
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On May 09 2020 14:27 seemsgood wrote: caster played really sloppy in first game I hope he didn't predict himself advancing in first | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
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On May 09 2020 14:27 DieuCure wrote: Cure is speed. No,  SpeeDis speed. | ||
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On May 09 2020 14:31 DieuCure wrote: Games are awful today, Cure beating Stats and TY 2-0 though. Happy for him. I hope he eventually breaks the offline ceiling. He is a very talented player | ||
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BerserkSword
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who am i kidding he's probably playing LoL rn | ||
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Zealously
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On May 09 2020 14:33 Elentos wrote: Weak series from TY, disappointed. But I guess no match today can be any decent. Gumiho vs Losira interlude plz | ||
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Fango
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If he only has ZvT to practice for I'd have faith in Dark finding his usual form. | ||
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On May 09 2020 14:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote: They've been TY fans longer than TY has been moonlighting as a caster. I don't think it's a problem though. Yeah not a real problem to me either. Just a little annoyed of them not being as unbiased and objective as possible. That's why I suggested that it would cause workplace drama as in my mind, I think that casters should be unbiased and objective in everything they say when casting. That being said, I recognize that they are humans and humans are biased towards what they like. | ||
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Elentos
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On May 09 2020 14:35 Fango wrote: If he only has ZvT to practice for I'd have faith in Dark finding his usual form. As long as his wrists don't give him trouble again he's fine. | ||
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Die4Ever
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On May 09 2020 14:35 serralfan18 wrote: Yeah not a real problem to me either. Just a little annoyed of them not being as unbiased and objective as possible. That's why I suggested that it would cause workplace drama as in my mind, I think that casters should be unbiased and objective in everything they say when casting. That being said, I recognize that they are humans and humans are biased towards what they like. oh yea, I agree with serralfan18, caster bias can be really annoying | ||
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On May 09 2020 14:37 Elentos wrote: Can we skip a coin to flip the PvZ? I have no hope for it being any good either. I hope its 6 hours long. Swarmhost shitfest | ||
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On May 09 2020 14:38 Die4Ever wrote: oh yea, I agree with serralfan18, caster bias can be really annoying  Also, happy about avoiding the DPG team kill. | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
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On May 09 2020 14:37 Elentos wrote: Can we skip a coin to flip the PvZ? I have no hope for it being any good either. What, are you not hoping to see protoss either all-inning and having a slight chance of winning or getting roached/hosted to death? ;P | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On May 09 2020 14:37 Elentos wrote: Can we skip a coin to flip the PvZ? I have no hope for it being any good either. That would be kinda mean given that for once the PvZ has a real shot at being better than the TvZ, TvP and TvT that preceeded it. | ||
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On May 09 2020 14:38 TheOneAboveU wrote: Also, happy about avoiding the DPG team kill. Really though I don't think Tastosis have ever even pretended to be unbiased. There's always someone they side with. | ||
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On May 09 2020 14:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote: That would be kinda mean given that for once the PvZ has a real shot at being better than the TvZ, TvP and TvT that preceeded it. At this point I just want the group done by the time I have to leave. Also I'm not holding up too much hope for PvZ without Zest to be decent. | ||
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Lexender
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Wait wtf was that, did he stopped his own banes with his lings? | ||
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Elentos
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On May 09 2020 14:45 Lexender wrote: Cure 2-0ing TY and Stats, hot damn, lets hope he actually gets anywhere this season. He might get to the Ro4 for a 3rd time in his career where appealing options such as Maru, Inno, Trap or Zest await. | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
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Still: come on Stats! | ||
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Elentos
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On May 09 2020 14:40 ZigguratOfUr wrote: That would be kinda mean given that for once the PvZ has a real shot at being better than the TvZ, TvP and TvT that preceeded it. Well... | ||
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On May 09 2020 14:48 Vindicare605 wrote: I am regretting staying up to watch these games. I am likewise regretting waking up way too early | ||
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On May 09 2020 14:42 Elentos wrote: At this point I just want the group done by the time I have to leave. Also I'm not holding up too much hope for PvZ without Zest to be decent. never give up on my boi stats | ||
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Fango
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On May 09 2020 14:47 Elentos wrote: He might get to the Ro4 for a 3rd time in his career where appealing options such as Maru, Inno, Trap or Zest await. If only he had won that game 7 vs INno back in 2014, we'd either be looking at a Cure or soO GSL champ. | ||
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Die4Ever
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On May 09 2020 14:49 Fango wrote: Lmao Solar having the worst birthday of his life it's his bday??? | ||
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seemsgood
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On May 09 2020 14:49 Fango wrote: Lmao Solar having the worst birthday of his life dude just wants to go home quick and join the party ; ] | ||
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Elentos
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So maybe he does have a train to catch | ||
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On May 09 2020 14:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Feels like a slow transition from Stats. But Solar did stay on a very low drone count throughout. think he knew if he held 3 bases he'd hit that critical mass of immortal which would end the game with storm | ||
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Zealously
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On May 09 2020 14:58 Fango wrote: On another note I didn't realise Solar was so young. Only 17 when he won dreamhack and 19 when he won SSL. Hard to believe it's been 6 years since he won Dreamhack though | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:03 Elentos wrote: Solar being the worst Splyce player will just never change but at some point dude got a really good record against Tae"castuerr" yang ;o | ||
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Elentos
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Also will be interesting if Stats' prep for today extends beyond playing normal games. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On May 09 2020 15:07 Elentos wrote: Let's see if TY has anything prepared for Stats. Didn't seem like he had anything ready for Cure. Well nothing that lined up with Cure's planning anyway. Also will be interesting if Stats' prep for today extends beyond playing normal games. Generally speaking I have more faith in TY's prep. than Stats. When Stats prepares stuff it often just doesn't look as good as his normal stuff. | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:09 Vindicare605 wrote: I knew Solar was gonna die in these groups.... but not like this. 12 Code S in LoTV, 7 Ro32 eliminations for Solar. Think that's enough of a pattern to say GSL isn't a good format for Solar. | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:11 serralfan18 wrote: Anyone know why Life wasn't shown on this highlight reel? If I remember correctly, he was GSL's first total roader. Because hes banned for life | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:11 serralfan18 wrote: Anyone know why Life wasn't shown on this highlight reel? If I remember correctly, he was GSL's first total roader. He was retroactively removed from every tournament record for being a matchfixer. His name was removed from the Blizzcon trophy even. | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:11 serralfan18 wrote: Anyone know why Life wasn't shown on this highlight reel? If I remember correctly, he was GSL's first total roader. You could be more creative. You posted that exact same comment before. And Obsidian hype. | ||
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ssg
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On May 09 2020 14:16 ssg wrote: What's the point of the new map if it has been vetoed in all 8 series so far I stand corrected | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:13 Elentos wrote: TY picking Obsidian, the only MAN in the first two groups. this means prepare for a long game mech | ||
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the group I decided to watch instead of going to bed... | ||
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And this is Obsidian's premier. | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:17 yht9657 wrote: what happened, I switched to TL for one minute and TY won...? 4 marines and 2 hellions walked into a natural and killed everything | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:17 yht9657 wrote: what happened, I switched to TL for one minute and TY won...? 4 marine 2 hellion squad > 2 adepts and phoenix | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:17 yht9657 wrote: what happened, I switched to TL for one minute and TY won...? TY won on a nothing push as stats lazily lost adepts | ||
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Frost was great. | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:17 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Oh come on the group I decided to watch instead of going to bed...Why are you going to bed at 8 am | ||
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My lifestyle is messed up - for me day is night and night is day. It's been like this for around 10 years now lol. | ||
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seemsgood
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he is a vampire | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:19 Die4Ever wrote: is this going to be the quickest GSL group ever? (excluding when they used to do bo1 in groups) watch TY make this a 2 hour mech game he loses | ||
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Sun already kinda scorching my skin, come one Stats make it fast  | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:19 OsaX Nymloth wrote: My lifestyle is messed up - for me day is night and night is day. It's been like this for around 10 years now lol. that's the way to do it brother | ||
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Die4Ever
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On May 09 2020 15:20 Schelim wrote: watch TY make this a 2 hour mech game he loses you mean draws, and then loses | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:18 Morbidius wrote: Why make a ripoff of Darkness Sanctuary? If GSL wants to try using some of their own maps maybe they should experiment with unique ones like golden wall. They want to make 4-player maps work, they always remove the most vetoed and weirdest map for that. The best 4-p map GSL has seen in LotV has been Whirlwind though. | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:21 Elentos wrote: They want to make 4-player maps work, they always remove the most vetoed and weirdest map for that. The best 4-p map GSL has seen in LotV has been Whirlwind though. Makes sense, since Whirlwind is in the upper echelon of SC2 maps. | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:23 Durnuu wrote: If TY goes mech on this map I might just die from the hype Don't die yet, but it's mech | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:23 Durnuu wrote: If TY goes mech on this map I might just die from the hype When TY goes mech | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:19 OsaX Nymloth wrote: My lifestyle is messed up - for me day is night and night is day. It's been like this for around 10 years now lol. it takes some decades to get used to the new body... | ||
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4 player maps haters in shambles | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:33 Durnuu wrote: Btw, this is probably the best game in the group 4 player maps haters in shambles There's no probably to it. It's by far the best game of the group. | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote: There's no probably to it. It's by far the best game of the group. It was already the best game 17 minutes ago honestly. | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:20 Schelim wrote: watch TY make this a 2 hour mech game he loses well, not quite 2 hours | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:37 Durnuu wrote: S T A T S B O Y S S T A T S B O Y S | ||
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being caster s pratice buddy has paid off | ||
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Almost all attacks of Stats were straight up bad, then TY moved out and lost his army for no reason while being economically ahead | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:38 starkiller123 wrote: ladder map when???? Also mech continues to be bad vs toss lol TY has been doing well vs protoss with mech Special (TY jr) killed neeb with mech recently too I just think stats is the wrong person to go mech on a bit map with. like that year zero maru vs stats game last year | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:39 BerserkSword wrote: TY has been doing well vs protoss with mech Special (TY jr) killed neeb with mech recently too I just think stats is the wrong person to go mech on a bit map with. like that year zero maru vs stats game last year Wins against Neeb aren't worth much these days | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:39 BerserkSword wrote: TY has been doing well vs protoss with mech Special (TY jr) killed neeb with mech recently too I just think stats is the wrong person to go mech on a bit map with. like that year zero maru vs stats game last year I know TY does it a lot but I still don't think its that good, maybe on that map just cause its so big but bio is still way stronger imo | ||
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True lol unfortunately so, as a neeb fan | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:41 Schelim wrote: i like how Stats randomly got +1/+1 for air off double cyber core at some point in the middle of the game yet never had more than 3 air units The carrier switch that just wasn't meant to be. | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:40 starkiller123 wrote: I know TY does it a lot but I still don't think its that good, maybe on that map just cause its so big but bio is still way stronger imo Pushing with mech on maps like this is really hard since there's so much time and space for chargelot surrounds and flanks. | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:40 starkiller123 wrote: I know TY does it a lot but I still don't think its that good, maybe on that map just cause its so big but bio is still way stronger imo agreed bio is king in tvp imo | ||
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or two base pull the boys is king lol | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:51 Elentos wrote: He wants to make it past the Ro8 but he also plays Dark Dark's gonna make it so TY can cast everything past the Ro8. | ||
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On May 09 2020 15:52 TheOneAboveU wrote: Dark's gonna make it so TY can cast everything past the Ro8. Given their past record it seems inevitable. | ||
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at least lets hope my man casteurr will cripple Dark s wrists enough with 4-5 long macro games so bogus can finally win a tournament ;ooo | ||
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Stats has only made 5, INnoVation only 3, and Maru 7. | ||
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On May 09 2020 16:19 Fango wrote: Can't wait for the inevitable Dark/Maru/Trap/other GSL ro4 like every GSL for the last year You really think Trap will make ro4? It seems like he is really struggling in PvZ these days edit. actually looking at the bracket the only zerg he could get in ro8 is Ragnorak so nvm he's probably fine lol | ||
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On May 09 2020 09:45 Zealously wrote: I don't know how anyone can look at TY's career knowing what a prodigy he appeared to be when he made his first professional appearance and say that he's definitely lived up to those lofty expectations. I think you're absolutely right that he hasn't, even if he's (only now) finally reached a level that many envisioned for him. I dont know how anyone can single out Stats in that group and then put TY in the same bag as Cure, but to each their own. | ||
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TY seems to always play exeedingly well then find a way to defeat himself before getting the chance to lift the trophy. Cure just never plays that well offline. | ||
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On May 09 2020 16:16 Fango wrote: TY has made 10/12 GSL playoffs in LotV. Still more than any other player Stats has only made 5, INnoVation only 3, and Maru 7. I have a spreadsheet with the LotV GSL results of all players in this Ro16 (things I do when I'm bored ). TY's average GSL result this expansion is Ro8, the only other player who matches that is Dark who has a slightly better average because he has 0 Ro32 eliminations. | ||
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On May 09 2020 16:55 Vanadiel wrote: Yeah that's true. Isn't ty the king of leading 2-0 and then lose 3-2? I've said this before, but he would have been called a bonjwa in 2017 if he had won all the series he lost 3-2 after going up 2-0. Almost all those matches were against the opponents that would have been his biggest challenge in each given event. | ||
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On May 09 2020 17:12 Elentos wrote: I have a spreadsheet with the LotV GSL results of all players in this Ro16 (things I do when I'm bored ). TY's average GSL result this expansion is Ro8, the only other player who matches that is Dark who has a slightly better average because he has 0 Ro32 eliminations.Surely there's no way Maru averages lower than ro8 right? Out of 11 seasons he's only finished below ro8 4 times (with the above scores including 4 wins and 2 ro4s). | ||
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On May 09 2020 17:20 Fango wrote: I've said this before, but he would have been called a bonjwa in 2017 if he had won all the series he lost 3-2 after going up 2-0. Almost all those matches were against the opponents that would have been his biggest challenge in each given event. Well I do believe 2017 is simultaneously the best and most disappointing year of TY's career, but he definitely wouldn't have auto-won 2 GSLs, IEM and Blizzcon by winning a 3rd map in each of those series. Well probably Blizzcon cause soO in the finals would have been his last opponent. On May 09 2020 17:26 Fango wrote: Surely there's no way Maru averages lower than ro8 right? Out of 11 seasons he's only finished below ro8 4 times (with the above scores including 4 wins and 2 ro4s). His average is exactly 9th place. This is mainly because he lost in Code A once (but also 2 Ro32 exits). If he had no losses before Ro16 like Dark, Maru would almost average Ro4. | ||
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On May 09 2020 17:26 Elentos wrote: Well I do believe 2017 is simultaneously the best and most disappointing year of TY's career, but he definitely wouldn't have auto-won 2 GSLs, IEM and Blizzcon by winning a 3rd map in each of those series. Well probably Blizzcon cause soO in the finals would have been his last opponent. His average is exactly 9th place. This is mainly because he lost in Code A once (but also 2 Ro32 exits). If he had no losses before Ro16 like Dark, Maru would almost average Ro4. Did you calculate that by using ro32 as 32, ro16 as 16 etc? If so I think that's a flawed approach, since for example ro32 and ro8 would average out at 20, instead of the intuitive 16. (Bad results would weight more than good ones in general) | ||
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On May 09 2020 18:16 DBooN wrote: Did you calculate that by using ro32 as 32, ro16 as 16 etc? If so I think that's a flawed approach, since for example ro32 and ro8 would average out at 20, instead of the intuitive 16. (Bad results would weight more than good ones in general) It's calculated optimistically. 4th place in Ro32 is 25, 3rd is 17. 4th place in Ro16 is 13, 3rd is 9. Ro8 is 5, Ro4 is 3. Because functionally those players that are eliminated in those rounds are all tied for the same position. Not that it changes the order the players end up in. | ||
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On May 09 2020 18:35 Argonauta wrote: Just saw the games. Props to Cure for advancing and wtf Stats? I was expecting more of the shield of Aiur Even aside from the meta not being great for Stats' playstyle, I don't think he's really the same Stats he used to be. And today may have been the last time he plays GSL before military, I think Stats implied there was a possibility of this being his last GSL. Hope not though. | ||
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Don't take that away from Rotterdam. | ||
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But nonetheless, Cure and TY are advancing. The tournament is in a good place. | ||
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On May 09 2020 18:45 Elentos wrote: Even aside from the meta not being great for Stats' playstyle, I don't think he's really the same Stats he used to be. And today may have been the last time he plays GSL before military, I think Stats implied there was a possibility of this being his last GSL. Hope not though. No he is not, I am not sure how the military works exactly in korea but maybe knowing you are going to expend 1 or 2 years isolated from family and friends and normal life in general makes you want to enjoy life more | ||
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On May 09 2020 19:51 Vindicare605 wrote: This group definitely didn't live up to its "almost GROUP OF DEATH" title. But nonetheless, Cure and TY are advancing. The tournament is in a good place. Yeah, in a way. On paper it looked like the one with the most even chances for all. But part of that is that nobody was quite sure what kinda shape Cure and Solar would be in on the day. Cure goes through in first? A lot of us were hoping for something like that, but who had confidence in predicting this outcome? Similarly, Solar out last? This would be a reasonable thing to guess for this group, but I really didn't expect him to get THAT wrecked. What I'm saying is that you're right that it wasn't close in the classic group of death way, but the final outcome was, I think, as unpredictable as it looked beforehand. | ||
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Loser's Match Game 2+ Show Spoiler + Why does Stats dmg everything to red. Like perfect shade fakes. Then when it's time to kill everything, he engages the lings >< Soooo tilting howwwww. edit* Oh and he all queen energy used.... | ||
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On May 09 2020 17:26 Elentos wrote: Well I do believe 2017 is simultaneously the best and most disappointing year of TY's career, but he definitely wouldn't have auto-won 2 GSLs, IEM and Blizzcon by winning a 3rd map in each of those series. Well probably Blizzcon cause soO in the finals would have been his last opponent Maybe not auto won. But he would have been extremely favoured to win t least GSL season 2 and blizzcon. Both times he would have had to face soO in the finals, who even without the soO factor just didn't have great ZvT. | ||
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