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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 24 2019 18:29 GMT
#481
Zest unit control is so sexy
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
November 24 2019 18:29 GMT
#482
It felt like a huge mistake not to go for the natural for Zest
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 24 2019 18:30 GMT
#483
Fantasy GG timing
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
November 24 2019 18:30 GMT
#484
come on now Zest

FORGE FORGE FORGE
I Protoss winner, could it be?
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4416 Posts
November 24 2019 18:30 GMT
#485
On November 25 2019 03:28 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 03:09 Lexender wrote:
On November 25 2019 03:05 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 25 2019 03:01 Lexender wrote:
On November 25 2019 02:56 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Yeah Inno just played terrible here, while Reynor seems to be in top form. There is really no reason to balance whine after this...


I just wish we had a tournaments where either Serral or Reynor don't win (or even theres a final without either of them).

Tournaments nowadays are either "Will eithef Serral or Reynor win" or (if they are Blizzcon or GSL vs the world) "Will some korean beat them in the finals"

Top 2 Korean players are not at HSC, I would dare to say top 3 considering vZ MU.


Thats exactly my point.

The foreign scene has become "See who wins in Serral vs Reynor, disregard the rest".

Koreans at least had some movement with 3 different protoss competing for top spot and the rise of Dark.


But what would you want to do about it? Tell Serral and Reynor to stop practicing and start playing worse so the other foreigners can catch up?
Those 2 are simply the best 2 foreigners by quite a big margin


I'm not convinced they would be dramatically better than Neeb/Special in a balanced meta. They'd still be favored but like 65-35 instead of 90-10
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-24 18:33:57
November 24 2019 18:31 GMT
#486
On November 25 2019 03:30 Penev wrote:
come on now Zest

FORGE FORGE FORGE


Be all you can be, become a cannoneer

e: no forge again... I guess Triton has a similar climate to Frost, maybe that feels more right to Zest?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-24 18:34:00
November 24 2019 18:33 GMT
#487
On November 25 2019 03:30 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 03:28 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On November 25 2019 03:09 Lexender wrote:
On November 25 2019 03:05 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 25 2019 03:01 Lexender wrote:
On November 25 2019 02:56 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Yeah Inno just played terrible here, while Reynor seems to be in top form. There is really no reason to balance whine after this...


I just wish we had a tournaments where either Serral or Reynor don't win (or even theres a final without either of them).

Tournaments nowadays are either "Will eithef Serral or Reynor win" or (if they are Blizzcon or GSL vs the world) "Will some korean beat them in the finals"

Top 2 Korean players are not at HSC, I would dare to say top 3 considering vZ MU.


Thats exactly my point.

The foreign scene has become "See who wins in Serral vs Reynor, disregard the rest".

Koreans at least had some movement with 3 different protoss competing for top spot and the rise of Dark.


But what would you want to do about it? Tell Serral and Reynor to stop practicing and start playing worse so the other foreigners can catch up?
Those 2 are simply the best 2 foreigners by quite a big margin


I'm not convinced they would be dramatically better than Neeb/Special in a balanced meta. They'd still be favored but like 65-35 instead of 90-10


I am starting to think that if you reach a certain level with Zerg, the core mechanics of production and map control makes it incredibly hard to stop. Nerfing zerg so much that Serral and Reynor are not dominant will probably make the race underpowered for everybody else.

We have seen similar issues with Terran also, notably with Byun and Maru.
Buff the siegetank
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
November 24 2019 18:44 GMT
#488
Baneling vs. Sentries, the age old matchup
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 24 2019 18:44 GMT
#489
On November 25 2019 03:33 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 03:30 JJH777 wrote:
On November 25 2019 03:28 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On November 25 2019 03:09 Lexender wrote:
On November 25 2019 03:05 deacon.frost wrote:
On November 25 2019 03:01 Lexender wrote:
On November 25 2019 02:56 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Yeah Inno just played terrible here, while Reynor seems to be in top form. There is really no reason to balance whine after this...


I just wish we had a tournaments where either Serral or Reynor don't win (or even theres a final without either of them).

Tournaments nowadays are either "Will eithef Serral or Reynor win" or (if they are Blizzcon or GSL vs the world) "Will some korean beat them in the finals"

Top 2 Korean players are not at HSC, I would dare to say top 3 considering vZ MU.


Thats exactly my point.

The foreign scene has become "See who wins in Serral vs Reynor, disregard the rest".

Koreans at least had some movement with 3 different protoss competing for top spot and the rise of Dark.


But what would you want to do about it? Tell Serral and Reynor to stop practicing and start playing worse so the other foreigners can catch up?
Those 2 are simply the best 2 foreigners by quite a big margin


I'm not convinced they would be dramatically better than Neeb/Special in a balanced meta. They'd still be favored but like 65-35 instead of 90-10


I am starting to think that if you reach a certain level with Zerg, the core mechanics of production and map control makes it incredibly hard to stop. Nerfing zerg so much that Serral and Reynor are not dominant will probably make the race underpowered for everybody else.

We have seen similar issues with Terran also, notably with Byun and Maru.

Nah, it's not like they are dominating every tournament they join. They didn't win Blizzcon nor IEM, two of the biggest tournaments of the year while the Blizzcon was during a heavy Zerg favoring state of the game. (although another Zerg won it )
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
November 24 2019 18:44 GMT
#490
lol
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
November 24 2019 18:44 GMT
#491
Wtf was that engagement by Zest?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 24 2019 18:44 GMT
#492
Welp. Late forcefields on top of everything else.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 24 2019 18:45 GMT
#493
Well, time to stop watching, it were nice 2 h it seems
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
November 24 2019 18:45 GMT
#494
He rolled him.
I'll see myself out.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
November 24 2019 18:45 GMT
#495
last chance Zest

FORGE FORGE FORGE
I Protoss winner, could it be?
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
November 24 2019 18:45 GMT
#496
The first push of zest might have lacked archons but I was pretty sure it was gonna work, I guess I overtestimate stalkers without blink.
fealx
Profile Joined September 2014
Germany376 Posts
November 24 2019 18:45 GMT
#497
Zerg is still just dumb
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 24 2019 18:45 GMT
#498
Zest was better last time when he drank more.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
November 24 2019 18:46 GMT
#499
It’s kind of dumb how that many armored units just die to banes
TL+ Member
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 24 2019 18:46 GMT
#500
Can't wait for the Inno vs Serral rematch.
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